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jambo
3300 Posts |
 Posted - 30 Mar 2006 : 11:22:19
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HELLO, take a stand, I have mentioned it many times, it is hard to take a stand when you belong to one tribe who will not deal with another tribe. When I travel in Gambia it affects everything I do, their way of thinking, views on women, children, education you name it is influenced. Outside the senegambia/Baku area people are fabulous.
I want to go back in June, anyone know any houses/apartments for rent for one month at a cheap rate, it is outside the season but everything is the same price as february/march regards
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trouble1317
United Kingdom
12 Posts |
Posted - 31 Mar 2006 : 18:23:48
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| Its a darn shame that gambian people are so desperate, yet european women happily throw their money in their "boyfriends"/"bumsters" pockets, when the real need is the women and children....The rainy season is fast approaching and many more children will die through malaria....Why don't these "loaded" european women set up some free malaria clinics, and give instead of taking...no pun intended... |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 31 Mar 2006 : 18:50:10
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hello, it is not only european women who give to their bumster friends. european men do the same. They have "girlfriends" who have families. How many times have you given to a "local" school only to find that it has been sold. Once again away from the tourist areas you can make a diffence. We all have stories were we have geniunely tried to help a family pay school fees, doctors bills, rent and it goes on clothes, "a business", mobile phones. That is their wish not mine.
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inez
279 Posts |
Posted - 01 Apr 2006 : 01:03:52
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Babylon....
sometimes you make sence and sometimes not. With your definition, even housewifes are prostitutes. Later you wrote that some of these women even marry their holiday crush after knowing them only few weeks. I canīt get it, if they only came to Gambia to have sex why would they marry some prostitute from there??? I believe their is male prostitutes in Europe and it might even be cheaper to use their services than to travel to Gambia and take care of the man and his entire family. That is not very cheap...maybe there is some kind of love from these womens side, of course itīs stupid to marry someone after so short time but that is an other issue and not against the law....sometimes people even want to help somebody out from the Gambia and then the marriage is the only way. Is that so bad? Itīs difficult to discuss things that happen between two people, how can you know what the deal is? Of course you will know that if some tourists really say they come to Gambia only for sex, then itīs very clear but otherwise you canīt tell. I went to Gambia first time with my kids for the sun and the beach, it was middle of the darkest winter and that trip was the only one I could afford and I really wanted to give my kids a nice holiday since we canīt do that every year...I tell you that travelling with kids doesnīt stop men in Gambia from giving you all kind of invitations...wearing african dresses doesnīt stop them...nothing really stops them, not even a husband on your side. To avoid this, we went out with a guide who was really nice and calm, not trying anything at all, not trying to guide me to the bed....we had nice time and we all cried when we had to go back home. after the holiday we kept in touch and I went back to Gambia alone, met this guide again and we started a relationship. after some time we started making plans for the future. we started building a compaund, I worked two jobs and saved everything I could, bought last minutes tickets and went to meet him, helped his family and took care of lots of things...after three years I found out that he "salted" every bill there was for the house and other things, made up difficulties in the family so I would send him money and I did because I trusted him. He used the money to build his parents house, to fence it and repair it, the floor, roof, doors, painting(I could not afford fencing my house)My house (I used to call it our house...is very simple and cheap)got broken during one raining season but he did not fix anything there so I had to rent from other people when I was in Gambia last time. That time we was supposed to get married but I refused since I saw his actions and his lack of respect towards me. Itīs very sad but I do mostly blame myself...so anybody here who wants to buy a land with broken house/heart at???? I wonīt go back to Gambia again...by the way, he was 7 years younger than me if that interests anybody... |
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Babylon
Sweden
691 Posts |
Posted - 01 Apr 2006 : 13:01:35
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Trust me, there are louds of chickenheads running after Gambians... and the guys be running after them because they know the chicks r not too bright and an easy income..
What I am saying here arenīt the news. Itīs already been on tv several times, and why is that? Because itīs all made up?
Donīt forget those women who sit on tv and tell about how they got married to their holiday crush and later got dumped, then they went to Gambia to find a new stud.. some who get remarried... Oh come on folks! Are these ppl normal or what? I always thought wisdom comes with age, but here in the West it sems to be the opposite.
Iīm glad to hear that atleast Inez here learned her lesson, some women donīt but continue to get involved with bumsters/guides on and on.
The question is why? Why do they feel like they have to pay for a man? Why help a grown up man?
Does it give the women a sense of power, a sense of being needed? A sense of superiority?
Is that why they find a helpless bumster/guide to support? It must give these women some sort of a kick.
Love? Maybe from some womens side.. But I really think that is just an easy excuse to feed the ongoing, neverending prostitution in the Gambia. There is no excuse to support prostitution.
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bamba
Sweden
401 Posts |
Posted - 01 Apr 2006 : 14:32:18
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Babylon, is'nt that the other way round too? From what many can see here, many Scandinavian women are not comfortable with somewhat educated African or Gambian for that matter. There are some high school "bumpters" forced into the roles of bumpters coz of poor family backgrounds. Employments in Gambia are mostly on family backgrounds than on merits.
Bumpters/prostitutes are usually the Gambians that come directly into contact with tourists. It will be the worst imaginable mistake to judge Gambians character from the very, very, few exposed to the tourists. |
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Babylon
Sweden
691 Posts |
Posted - 01 Apr 2006 : 14:45:38
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There are a lot of fine looking, well educated, well behaved, financially stable Gambians. So why do some women go to poor countries looking for people who have no nothing?
Ladies ladies ladies! When will you Stop playing the role of Mother Theresa? You canīt save the planet by feeding your husband. Get your head screwed on, and tight (or you will get what you deserve. And when you do, donīt go complaining and crying on tv giving all Gambians a bad name!) |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 01 Apr 2006 : 18:50:28
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INEZ, sorry to hear what happened, but life goes on you have your health and can start again. Your are strong.
Do you still have your land. Despite my setbacks i am going to build my own compouund for me it wil be cheaper than staying in hotels. |
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inez
279 Posts |
Posted - 01 Apr 2006 : 20:39:40
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"There are a lot of fine looking, well educated, well behaved, financially stable Gambians. So why do some women go to poor countries looking for people who have no nothing?
Ladies ladies ladies! When will you Stop playing the role of Mother Theresa? You canīt save the planet by feeding your husband. Get your head screwed on, and tight (or you will get what you deserve. And when you do, donīt go complaining and crying on tv giving all Gambians a bad name!)"// sorry Iīm new with this but this is a part of babylons reply...
How do you call women looking for rich men? Gold diggers or prostitutes or normal women. the thing is that you dont always look for someone but you just fall in love, it might be poor person or rich person or something between. Maybe you can say that a person falling in love is screwing her/his head of...Babylon you reason sometimes like a true bumster but when it comes from a woman thatīs allright? are you bitter? have you ever been in love? if you have, did you pick a rich guy? Or poor one who went for older and richer woman?
Donīt worry, even if I learned my lesson, I donīt believe all people in Gambia are bad or all men are bad and Iīm not crying about it to anybody. I know itīs my own fault because I gave him the oportunity to spend my money and the reason is that I respected the tradition and culture too much and wanted him to feel like a head of the family, even a poor man has his pride... he allready had a lot of pressure from his family. But life goes on even for chickenheads
Good luck to you Jambo, yes I do still have my land (I HOPE) and I have to go back once more to sell it...You are right life goes on and money is not everything Hakuna matata// Inez |
Edited by - inez on 01 Apr 2006 20:42:32 |
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Sitasungo
77 Posts |
Posted - 01 Apr 2006 : 21:25:23
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Wel people,
I have heard you comments about this issue.But here is my story.I met a white woman who wanted me as a lover she gives me every thing I want.But any time I ask her to invite me to visit her,she keeps telling me no because when I visit her other women would take me from her. I have never been to europe but I keep woundering is this things happening in europe? She is quite young and she said she neither want a child,nor wants to marry. I don't believe in morney love.What should I do?
What are you views? |
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inez
279 Posts |
Posted - 01 Apr 2006 : 22:12:49
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"She is quite young and she said she neither want a child,nor wants to marry. I don't believe in morney love.What should I do?"
It depence on what you want, if you want to have children and get married, then you need to forget about her since you two donīt want the same thing. She also might be afraid that you only want to use her to get to Europe and thatīs the reason she tell you that you should not come and visite her...or she really is jealous and that happens everywhere, even in Europe between white people. If you donīt want money love, stop taking her money and see what she will do. Itīs really easy to give advise to other people... |
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Babylon
Sweden
691 Posts |
Posted - 01 Apr 2006 : 22:28:49
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Dear Inez, itīs not about how phat a manīs wallet is. It is about good character and to have a good judgement, something every proud woman should have.
I simply do not believe that a man of good character would be selling his private services to desperate, lovesick tourists and hopefully get a ticket out of his country too. I would never ever get in contact with such people and thereby risc my finances or health.
How do you fall in love with a gigolo, howīs that possible? Do you think ur his only costumer? Why waste your time on such foolishness?
Listen gyals, this thing is starting to sound pathetic already, I repeat my words of wisdom: Be more picky when it comes to men and who you chose to open your heart to! Is that so hard? And if he is selling something -RUN the other direction!
My gosh...
And No Iīm not bitter, and Yes I am in love at this very moment. And he ainīt a scrub! |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
1350 Posts |
Posted - 01 Apr 2006 : 22:43:46
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Hi,
well sitasungo my only advise is if you want really to have chids my brother,then this is not your woman despite her wealth. Be a man and leave her.Your woman is just arround the corner why not try some beautiful Gambian,Afican or any woman for that matter and stop messing about? |
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Sitasungo
77 Posts |
Posted - 01 Apr 2006 : 23:00:16
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Well thank you fellows,
Any way I must let you know I am not after anybody's morney and its not because I cannot have any other woman,no quite the contrary.I have been with her three years now and its not about colour,I really love her.I think the best advise I will take would be I will stop getting morney from even if I will sterve.Though I am not working,I an still young and one day I will travel out of the Gambia even without her help.I am a man you people don't know.I wrote to Bantaba because I have been following your programs and really I wish the Gambia is just like Bantaba as many of your writters suggests very good things on it for our dear country.This is a forum all Gambians should read and contribute to in my opinion.
My girl said she loves me so much but she said she will never let another woman get me.I am not stupid and I will know if that is true its only that things are hard and when she sends me morney even when I didn't ask for it,should I return her morney back?For instance she gives me a monthly allowance of 1500 dalasis, from that I pay my house rent and buy food plus help my parents with that.
I am really not after anyone's morney.I do my little craft work and sell it on the beach despite the army I manage few dalasis and help my self with that.
But thank oyu all for your advise.I must ofcause add that not as some of you think I never sell my self for I have met many women and I always tell them I have a girl friend.If I was a bumster,I will do as some do, I have as many women as possible.
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Edited by - Sitasungo on 01 Apr 2006 23:02:20 |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
3091 Posts |
Posted - 01 Apr 2006 : 23:14:15
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I have just come back from Gambia and it is very difficult as to tourist to work out who is genuine and who just wants a meal ticket.
There are many hapy marriages between Gambian men and English women, but many other women are used for money and likewise many women use men for sex.
I feel the economics gets in the way. How can you trust that someone wants you because they love you when they need you to pay the bills???!
For those genuine couples that make it work I say fantastic! How can you be sure you arent being married for the visa????
Child prostitution is a whole different issue. Last Wednesday in Jokor there were very young girls very immodestly dressed propositioning white men. VERY SAD. The club shouldnt let them in. ALso any man who commits an illegal act in his Gambia should be prosecuted when he returns home. If it isnt acceptable in England its not acceptable in Gambia either!!! |
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