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Momodou
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 Posted - 20 Oct 2007 : 17:31:23
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Kanyiba Kanyi Yet To Be Released
By Fabakary B. Ceesay
Rumours are rife that Mr. Kanyiba Kanyi has been released by the authorities, but Foroyaa has confirmed that he is yet to be released.
His family members said they also heard the same information, but they are yet to set their eyes on him. They said that people have called and asked them about the condition of Kanyiba, but they said they don’t know anything about his whereabouts. “We are yet to see him,” they said. They pointed out that they are craving for
Kanyiba’s release. They called on the authorities to release him. Mr. Kanyiba Kanyi was arrested at his home at Bonto on September 18, 2006 by three people who identified themselves as State Security agents. He was whisked away in a waiting cab. Upon his arrest, his younger brother, Wandifa Kanyi was also arrested and detained at the serious crime unit at the Police Headquarters for a night and released the following morning. Kanyiba is 35 years old.
Source: Foroyaa Newspaper Burning Issue
Issue No. 122/2007, 17 - 18 October, 2007
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
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Posted - 23 Oct 2007 : 17:50:48
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| Thank you KOTO I shall follow the development and fight until He too breathes freedom from people who have no regard for the law of our land. |
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brikama
USA
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Posted - 23 Oct 2007 : 20:40:03
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I wonder why the government refused to release Kanyiba Kanyi as it released other illegal detainees. I really feared for his life. He did not do anything wrong to deserve this inhumane treatment.
It is high time for Ousainou Darboe to stand up to his responsibility by demanding Kanyi's release immediately and unconditionally. Kanyiba got in trouble because he supports Mr. DarboE and the party could not even demand his release or resort to a peaceful demonstration to express their dissatisfaction. Ousainou Darboe is a big coward who is incapable of leading Gambia at this critical junture. He either stand up to his responsibility or leave politics altogether.
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
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Posted - 23 Oct 2007 : 21:04:14
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Hey fella,
Hold on a second! What are you talking about? A peaceful demonstration? Have you forgotten or were you away from home for too long? 14 died for such and yet still no one was ever held accountable for those deaths. Kanyiba is a brother and militant but we don't want any more Gambian blood shed.
As for Ousanou, well what ever you think of him,I reserve my opinion on him because here is a man who stood against Yaya when most were silent either afraid or being self sentered.If he is a coward as you portrayed him to be,then so be it but you must remember that he would be of no use when he is assasinated! food for thought
I assure you my fellow countryman/woman, the criminals will produce Kanyiba dead or alife.Until then, we will never stop writting against his unlawful incarnation.Until unmarked cars stop picking people whose families will never know their whereabout, We shall continue to term the Jammeh apparatus as terrorist who have no regards for the rule of law or to talk of international law. Until the Jammeh gang stops lying to the Gambian people and resort to running the country with respect for Human Rights and Rule of law, we will never stop writting about it bad governance.
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brikama
USA
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Posted - 24 Oct 2007 : 07:11:14
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Janyanfara, you wrote “Kanyiba is a brother and militant but we don't want any more Gambian blood shed.” Are you telling me that Kanyiba’s life does not worth fighting for? Is Kanyiba’s life less worthy than that of Ousainou Darboe? I strongly believe that leadership demand courage by standing firmly by your supporters. Mr. Darboe has shown his indifference to the plight of his supporters, they are arrested and tortured by Jammeh’s tugs anytime or manner they choose. Ousainou Darboe is among a few politicians that have never been arrested by the Government; he always makes sure he does not do anything that can anger president Jammeh. On the night of the first presidential election in the second republic, Mr. sought refuge at the American embassy and left his supporters at the mercy of the Green Boys. The excuse was based rumors that he would be arrested if he wins the election because the junta would refuse to cede power. Remember that during these times, many UDP supporters were arrested, and tortured. In fact, I think two UDP supporters were killed during the campaign season.
In the second election, Mr. Darboe called and congratulated president Jammeh for his victory even before his party’s election supervisors report to him. His call automatically declared his acceptance of the results, and the entire election process, when we know for certain the elections were not free and fair and some of his supporters were harassed, beaten and tortured. During this congratulation call president was heard calling him “my son.”
In the third election, Mr. Darboe caused the disintegration of NADD and gave election victory to Jammeh. Of course Darboe caused the disintegration of NADD. He left his NADD colleagues in limbo before exhausting flag bearer selection process. He accused his colleagues of distrust, while we all know that he left NADD because he was not automatically selected leader. The MOU stated in no uncertain terms the manner of flag bearer selection process. Ousainou Darboe is among the best legal minds in the Gambia; therefore, one would assume that he would pay greater attention to the provisions of the MOU before appending his signature on it. His misguided action led to Jammeh’s victory. I am certain if NADD was given chance by Mr. Darboe his blind supporters, Jammeh’s government would have been history. Instead of running to the American Embassy or conceding to defeat, Ousainou Darboe’s UPD challenged the election results at the high court, interestingly he abandoned the petition by not responding to court requests.
If Mr. Darboe has been standing up to his leadership requirements, Jammeh’s government would have been history. We all know Ousainou Darboe is the most popular opposition leader in the Gambia, but he has not been using that strength to his advantage. He is always scared of his life, ironically, while his supporters are day-in and day-out arrested, tortured and even killed by his opponent’s supporters.
About Kanyiba’s issue, I would want you to put yourself in his position. Imagine that you were kidnapped from your family by Jammeh’s killers. You are kept from the courts, and detained at filthy police stations across the country under horrible conditions. You family does not know your whereabouts and could not determine whether or not you are alive. Your mother went to every night hoping that you would be reunited the following morning, only to be disappointed everyday. Your wife was left in a constant state of insecurity and financial difficulties. Your sons and daughters would have wonder why deserve not to be raised in the watchful eye of their beloved father. Then you would come to realize how much pain Kanyiba and his family and friends must be going through for more than one year. It was good that Darboe went to courts to challenge illegal detention of his supporters, on two occasions the court ordered Kanyi and Jatta to be released immediately and unconditionally. Jammeh’s tugs refused to release them and in some instances even denied having them in custody, until Rambo was sighted and reported by AI staffers and their local contact. So you telling me that’s where Darboe need to stop and leave his comrade and supporter to rot in illegal detention.
Political change never comes easy. If we let Jammeh do whatever he wishes because we fear our action would lead to more bloodshed, then Jammeh would be president for life. What you failed to understand is that Jammeh is already spilling our blood and he would not stop until we made him stop. This is how all free countries came to being. For example, the third estate in theocratic France led a revolution and created a republic where rights of people were celebrated. During that time the King and the church had enormous power but that did not stop the lowest class to revolt and took power. All over the world leaders always risk their lives to demand justice and fair treatment.
It is high time for Gambia people to demand their rights to be respected by Jammeh and his tugs.
Brikama
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 Oct 2007 : 14:24:27
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Brikama Santo su, Thanks for your postings. Unfortunately, you are not saying anything that has not been said, contested, overhemly dissapproved of and entirely rediculed here as utter nonsense. As a result of that, I am to incline to join your rambling spree but I would like to ask few question and I hope they would be given clear-cut answers;
1. You said Mr. Darboe has refused to lead a peaceful demonstration against Jammeh. Why are you not asking your [NADD] leaders to do it then? A prominent NADD fundraiser [Fatou Jaw manneh] has had her freedom of movement curtailed by the regime on the basis of non-justiceable charges. Her Studies in the US is now seriously affected by this restriction. When are NADD leaders leading a peaceful demonstration?
2. You also said that Mr. Darboe is afraid to even ask for the unconditional release of his supporters. What then was he doing in court when he represented Rambo and others?
If you could provide honest answers to these questions, I think you will allow sleep dogs to lie completely low.
Thanks
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brikama
USA
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Posted - 24 Oct 2007 : 19:59:07
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Nyarikangbanna,
Thanks for the reply. First of all I am not Brikama Santo su. Secondly, how did you conclude that I am a NADD supporter? In your response you asked two questions and you want a clear-cut answer to each of them.
You asked me why I am not asking NADD to lead a demonstration to free Fatou Jaw Manneh? Only a blind can compare the condition of Fatou Jaw Manneh and Kanyiba. Fatou is not confined to any kind of detention or subjected to physical torture at this time. She was arrested on her arrival in the Gambia, detained for a short while, and released on bail. She is officially charged with an allege offence and taken before a court of law. Kanifing and Banjul magistrate courts refused to hear the case citing lack of jurisdiction and the case is transferred to the Brikama Magistrate court, which is yet to determine jurisdiction or the merits of the case. Of course, Fatou Jaw Manneh’s case is a government witch-hunt just to create trouble for their perceived enemies. I agree with you that her stay in the Gambia is seriously restricting her freedom of movement and ability to continue her education. I hope Brikama Magistrate court would quickly dismiss all charges against her, so she can continue carrying out her daily activities without restrictions. In my view, the only time demonstration would on the table in the case of Fatou Manneh would be after the courts cleared her of the charges and the government continues to refuse her freedom. Until when that happens, the leadership of NADD would not have a justification to demonstrate.
On the other hand, Kanyiba has been in detention for more than one full year without being charged of a crime. As you rightly mentioned, Mr. Darboe went to the courts on behalf of Kanyiba and others, which I mentioned and applauded in my last piece. In each of the cases, the court ordered their unconditional release but the government refused to obey the orders. You would expect a strong leader to flex his/her muscles by demanding respect for the rule of law, but Darboe just quietly went about his business and left his fallen comrades to perish in illegal detention. Mr. Darboe is enjoying his life with his family and friends, while his supporters are illegally incarcerated, tortured, and killed by Jammeh’s tugs. He would not say anything because his own life would be threatened. This is ridicules and utter nonsense.
In conclusion, one must be completely out of his/her mind to compare Kanyiba’s condition to that of Fatou Jaw Manneh. No one even knows whether or not Kanyiba is alive. He is denied all due process and kept in detention against two court orders.
I want to ask you the following questions:
1. Is Kanyiba’s live worthy fighting for?
2. If yes, why is UDP not fighting for it?
3. If no, why?
4. Is Mr. Darboe’s life more worthy than Kanyiba?
Please give a good answer to the above questions.
Thanks
Brikama
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
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Posted - 24 Oct 2007 : 22:44:26
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quote:
Originally posted by brikama
Janyanfara, you wrote “Kanyiba is a brother and militant but we don't want any more Gambian blood shed.” Are you telling me that Kanyiba’s life does not worth fighting for? Is Kanife less worthy than that of Ousainou Darboe? I strongly believe that leadership demand courage by standing firmly by your supporters. Mr. Darboe has shown his indifference to the plight of his supporters, they are arrested and tortured by Jammeh’s tugs anytime or manner they choose. Ousainou Darboe is among a few politicians that have never been arrested by the Government; he always makes sure he does not do anything that can anger president Jammeh. On the night of the first presidential election in the second republic, Mr.Darboe sought refuge at the American embassy and left his supporters at the mercy of the Green Boys. The excuse was based rumors that he would be arrested if he wins the election because the junta would refuse to cede power. Remember that during these times, many UDP supporters were arrested, and tortured. In fact, I think two UDP supporters were killed during the campaign season. In the second election, Mr. Darboe called and congratulated president Jammeh for his victory even before his party’s election supervisors report to him. His call automatically declared his acceptance of the results, and the entire election process, when we know for certain the elections were not free and fair and some of his supporters were harassed, beaten and tortured. During this congratulation call president was heard calling him “my son.”
In the third election, Mr. Darboe caused the disintegration of NADD and gave election victory to Jammeh. Of course Darboe caused the disintegration of NADD. He left his NADD colleagues in limbo before exhausting flag bearer selection process. He accused his colleagues of distrust, while we all know that he left NADD because he was not automatically selected leader. The MOU stated in no uncertain terms the manner of flag bearer selection process. Ousainou Darboe is among the best legal minds in the Gambia; therefore, one would assume that he would pay greater attention to the provisions of the MOU before appending his signature on it. His misguided action led to Jammeh’s victory. I am certain if NADD was given chance by Mr. Darboe his blind supporters, Jammeh’s government would have been history. Instead of running to the American Embassy or conceding to defeat, Ousainou Darboe’s UPD challenged the election results at the high court, interestingly he abandoned the petition by not responding to court requests.
If Mr. Darboe has been standing up to his leadership requirements, Jammeh’s government would have been history. We all know Ousainou Darboe is the most popular opposition leader in the Gambia, but he has not been using that strength to his advantage. He is always scared of his life, ironically, while his supporters are day-in and day-out arrested, tortured and even killed by his opponent’s supporters.
About Kanyiba’s issue, I would want you to put yourself in his position. Imagine that you were kidnapped from your family by Jammeh’s killers. You are kept from the courts, and detained at filthy police stations across the country under horrible conditions. You family does not know your whereabouts and could not determine whether or not you are alive. Your mother went to every night hoping that you would be reunited the following morning, only to be disappointed everyday. Your wife was left in a constant state of insecurity and financial difficulties. Your sons and daughters would have wonder why deserve not to be raised in the watchful eye of their beloved father. Then you would come to realize how much pain Kanyiba and his family and friends must be going through for more than one year. It was good that Darboe went to courts to challenge illegal detention of his supporters, on two occasions the court ordered Kanyi and Jatta to be released immediately and unconditionally. Jammeh’s tugs refused to release them and in some instances even denied having them in custody, until Rambo was sighted and reported by AI staffers and their local contact. So you telling me that’s where Darboe need to stop and leave his comrade and supporter to rot in illegal detention.
Political change never comes easy. If we let Jammeh do whatever he wishes because we fear our action would lead to more bloodshed, then Jammeh would be president for life. What you failed to understand is that Jammeh is already spilling our blood and he would not stop until we made him stop. This is how all free countries came to being. For example, the third estate in theocratic France led a revolution and created a republic where rights of people were celebrated. During that time the King and the church had enormous power but that did not stop the lowest class to revolt and took power. All over the world leaders always risk their lives to demand justice and fair treatment.
It is high time for Gambia people to demand their rights to be respected by Jammeh and his tugs.
Brikama
Brikama,
Yes am Kanyiba's brother, friend, mentor and collegue. Maybe you don't know much thats why you are saying all those baseless statute statements.
Let me try and answer some of your questions:
Kanyiba's life is worth every thing to his family. But what type of fighting are you talking about?
If we start a demonstration and there then the criminals open fire like they did on the 10th and 11th April, think about it if you know the Gambia of today. What would happen if the police or Army open fire and kill people? Who is going to help those who lost fathers,brothers, sisters or sons and daughters in such a demonstration you?
what about may God forbid if in one of such demonstration and there iwas shooting and one of Kanyiba's close family happens to be amongst the killed, wouldn't that be more tears for the already soffered family?
As for you, if you want demonstrations for our brother's release so much, Kanyiba has a wife as you already knew.How much have you sent for those people since Kanyiba's disappearance? I think it is only yourself you fool. Do you even know whether those people eat or not?
I tell you my brother, Kanyiba's family would never want any Gambian blook shed by the blood hungry gang.People would rather resort to writing and writing condemning the action of the government and appealing to international powers to put more presure on the Jammeh regime until Kanyiba is produced either alife or dead.
No Darboe's life is no better than any human being much more our Kanyiba.
Am sure if you have issues with Darboe, try another way but not through Kanyiba's disappearance.
You are the type who fan the flame of fire and sit to say hey there is the smoke. Why would you sit in europe or anypart of the world and call for a demonstration about Kanyiba?
Please if you love him so much, take the bull by the horn and go to BANJUL start the demonstration and after some hours, look behind you many would follow.
Then you would be a hero.Don't just sit behind a heater house in this winter and write what you like because you have had a chicken.
You and I know when you are in the Gambia, you get killed and even the people who should have symphatised with your family hide because they don't want what befalls you to happen to them. You then hear some even talking bad of you ......why did he do this and that?He broght this and that on himself ect ect.
Who doesn't know Gambians of today? Only a fool!
Try a demonstration and we shall follow for if we see Kanyiba today, thats what we all want and am sure the happiest would be his family and parents. |
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brikama
USA
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Posted - 25 Oct 2007 : 01:19:42
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Janyanfara,
You are calling me a fool for speaking my mind about issues that are directly affecting me and my family. You could not exhibit simple decency in rejecting my ideas with an intelligent and coherent alternative cause of action, but resume to calling me names and giving me characteristics that are based on your imaginary illusions. Why can’t we talk about the real issues, instead of hatred and outright ignorance, so we would be able to identify the causative factors of our common problems and device actionable strategies on how to eradicate them from our midst? I think, the desire for such a discussion, probably motivated the creation of this forum. So Gambians from diverse backgrounds would have an opportunity to express their undiluted ideas about the way forward for the Gambia. I commend people like Modou Camara and many other Gambians who have endeavored to create these forums and jump-started the debate about the feature of our beloved country. But people like you, Janyanfara, are the ones who try to intimidate those that disagree with you by calling them names and make crazy images of them base on your ignorance. You cannot debate the issues; as a result you resort to arrogance and hatred to bully those who disagree with you. I refused to be bullied by anyone.
In your respond, you made many claims about me that are based on imaginations. You do not know my relationship with Kanyiba or his family, and whether or not I have ever extended any helping hand to the family before and after he was kidnapped. By making assumptions about my relationship with Kanyiba makes you a real fool, because you are making claims based on a crazy man’s philosophy, baseless assumptions, day-dreaming, hatred, and utter foolishness. Whatever transpires between me and Kanyiba’s family will remain secret to you, since you could not have the courtesy to ask before you concoct.
Why can’t we talk about the issues affecting our beloved nation? In your response, you highlighted many sentences in my piece that are undoubtedly factual, but you did not make comment about any of them; you just went on personal attack that I am a fool, because I had a chicken, I fan and flame fire and sit to say hey there is the smoke. Did I assume anything about you in my first response? No. I talked about the issues.
Thant being said, you wrote “You and I know when you are in the Gambia, you get killed and even the people who should have sympathised with your family hide because they don't want what befalls you to happen to them. You then hear some even talking bad of you ......why did he do this and that? He broght this and that on himself ect ect.” I agree with you on this one. The status quo is in serous disrepair. In order words, change is highly overdue. It seems that both you and I agree that the status quo need to be changed, we just disagree with the method to deploy.
You wrote “I tell you my brother, Kanyiba's family would never want any Gambian blook shed by the blood hungry gang.People would rather resort to writing and writing condemning the action of the government and appealing to international powers to put more presure on the Jammeh regime until Kanyiba is produced either alife or dead.” You sincerely believe that writing online and appealing to outsiders would suddenly make Jammeh conform to rule of law and protection of human rights? What many people fail to understand is that the West would not easily come to our aid in removing Jammeh from power. Only two things would make any western country to demand Jammeh’s removal: 1. If Gambia happen to be strategically important to any of the western powers, 2. If Jammeh continue to kill Gambians in very large numbers. Western powers are busy scrambling for their national and strategic interests. Unfortunately, Gambia does not possess much natural resources or wealth to attract Westerner powers, which could pressurize the government to conform. On the issue of writing to condemn Jammeh’s actions in the online newspapers and discussion forums is a good idea but with little impact. Just by writing online and appealing to outsiders for help, it would take us till doomsday before Gambia would be a free land. You fail to realize that freedom is never delivered on a sliver plate. In the history of the world, oppressors have never voluntarily given up freedom; it must be demanded by the oppressed.
I want to reiterate the following facts, one more time:
1. On the night of the 1996 presidential election, Mr. Darboe sought refuge at the American Embassy while ballots were being counted.
2. On the night of 2001 presidential election, Mr. Darboe certified the election results by congratulating Jammeh, even before his militant supervising the election at the polling stations delivered their report.
3. Mr. Darboe caused the disintegration of NADD and spoiled the election for the opposition.
4. On the night of 2006 presidential election, Mr. Darboe did not do or say anything; he went to bed. However, after few days, Mr. Darboe filled complaints at the High Court regarding the validity of the election results. Many people were happy to see their leader stand up for something. Interestingly, Mr. Darboe abandoned his petition and went to refresh at UK, while Kanyiba, Rambo, and many other were confined to police stations across the country.
5. Finally, I would be glad if you would stop personal attacks and debate the issues. When I was a young boy, a wise man once told me that the child who first starts insulting other kids’ parents is the lousiest and the most disrespectful to his or parents. Because it is certain other kids would respond with similar insults. I think it is prudent we discuss the issues and forget about unnecessary personal attacks and aggression. Most importantly, you must always remember that assumptions not based on facts corrupt the mind.
Thanks
Brikama
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 Oct 2007 : 14:05:56
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Ok You said you are not Brikama Santo su. Brikama Mansaring su then. Back to the point. You said demonstration is not necessary in Fatou Jaw Manneh's case because the judicial process is not over yet. If we are to go by that logic, then Kanyiba's case is not any different. Yes there is a court order demanding for his release or be produced before the court but that was not end of story. The case is still in adjournment. So can we say the judicial process is not over yet? I am not comparing Miss Manneh's case to that of Kanyiba because that would be a silly thing to do. Kanyiba is a more worthy political prey to APRC than Miss Manneh because he is UDP. UDP supporters are valuable political targets for APRC. We all know that.
In Miss Manneh’ case, we all know that no court has the jurisdiction in the Gambia to try the charges leveled against her. They are simply non-justiceable. We also know that she is in trouble because of her connection to NADD. What would then be wrong should NADD leaders go on a peaceful demonstration and demand that the government stop using the judiciary as a tool of oppression. Can't they do that?
You admitted that Mr Darboe in fact demanded the release of his support while in court. I think if you contrast this with your earlier postulation that Mr Darboe is afraid to even ask for the release of his suppoters, then you will notice that you have destroyed your credibility here by exposing your own lies. Thank you ever much for that. A job well done.
As for the Election Petition, that is a legal issue. You have no specialist knowledge in that discipline. You are therefore better off biting your own lips on that.
Please be informed that although the constitution permits peaceful demonstrations, it is still a requirement under the Public Order Act that ‘would be demonstrators’ seek a permit from the police first. You should now ask yourself whether the Gambian Police would ever issue any such permit under Jammeh's watch. I think what you should do next time is to conduct a better research on issues before you talk about them. They are not as straight forward as you erroneously portray them. Good effort anyway but utterly hopeless.
I rest my case
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Ebra
Gambia
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Posted - 25 Oct 2007 : 16:36:39
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A little history about Kanyiba. He was born in Jassong Village, Jarra East to a very hard working Daddy Yahya Kanyi. Kanyiba Attended Bureng Primary School from 1981 to 1987 and passed with a flying colour, and been the three best students from Bureng School. He then proceeded to Armitage High School. After completion of his high school careers, he joined CCF, living with his Uncle at Bonto until he manage to build his own house.
About his background, the Daddy is the most hard working farmer in Jassong, who during the raining season is a farmer and dry season as tailor. The daddy struggle so hard to pay his education as he is the eldest guy in the family. I knew Kanyiba since early 70s and I must emphasized that he is a humble, jovial and a sincere person. For those who attended High school with him can testify that he has the best hand writing with thousand styles.
Coming back to Janya, Brikama, and Nyari, lets buried the hatched and concentrate on means of persuing the government for his immediate release rather than fighting. I beleived Janya knew him but at the same time Brikama may know him better, who knows. Lets avoid argument and maintain constructive debate. |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
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Posted - 25 Oct 2007 : 18:21:31
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My brother Brikama,
Please this time read everything leter by leter word by word
I think you very well misread my last posting or you must have read with anger and only anger.Because I told you the truth.
I did call you a fool and I will explain why. Read again:
I said:
"Yes am Kanyiba's brother, friend, mentor and collegue. Maybe you don't know much thats why you are saying all those baseless statute statements."
Is this not true?
I meant they are baseless because what you are calling for would be totally unlawful under the present Gambian constitution. And you and I know that would be foolish unless if one is meant to take the law into your own hands
And you know very well no police officer would dare issue the most hated UDP with a permit to demonstrate.Exept if he or she wants to disappear just like Daba and co!
If you know the law and the type of Criminal Junta we Gambians are being rule under, you would not have the mind to call for a demonstration in the first place.
Anyway listen to your self once again and I quote:
2. "If Jammeh continue to kill Gambians in very large numbers. Western powers are busy scrambling for their national and strategic interests. Unfortunately, Gambia does not possess much natural resources or wealth to attract Westerner powers, which could pressurize the government to conform."
Now in your own words who would wipe our tears if we demonstrate and the tugs open fire at us?
I belief as Mr Nyari rightly said and I quote:
"be informed that although the constitution permits peaceful demonstrations, it is still a requirement under the Public Order Act that ‘would be demonstrators’ seek a permit from the police first. You should now ask yourself whether the Gambian Police would ever issue any such permit under Jammeh's watch?"
Now back to the point,
I also said:
"Who doesn't know Gambians of today? Only a fool!"
Do you now want to tell me you are the one who doesn't know Gambians of today?
I tell you My Brother we may all come from Jarra or have relatives there, and the issue of Kanyiba is of grave concern to us all but dealing with criminal who can back themselves with what we now call the revised constitution of the Gambia, needs care and caution to deal with otherwise be outside and ring the alarm bell.
May I ask you, have you ever been to the House of Parliament(now called National Assembly)?
If you haven't , please try once and go there, watch just for once. Then you would know what I am talking about.
Gambia today is damaged very very Damaged.Thats why I don't blame most Gambian people now a days when they bomb out their anger from just simple conversations which does never warrant even a raised voice.
You said(on quote)
In your respond, you made many claims about me that are based on imaginations. You do not know my relationship with Kanyiba or his family, and whether or not I have ever extended any helping hand to the family before and after he was kidnapped. By making assumptions about my relationship with Kanyiba makes you a real fool, because you are making claims based on a crazy man’s philosophy, baseless assumptions, day-dreaming, hatred, and utter foolishness. Whatever transpires between me and Kanyiba’s family will remain secret to you, since you could not have the courtesy to ask before you concoct.
As for this above statements,
Again you have misread my statements and are angry instead calling me names that you alledged I called you!
All I can say to you is calm down and take a deep breath. I never said you have never sent or helped Kanyiba's family since his disappearance!
Read what I said earlier:
I just asked you a question How much have you sent? If you have and didn't want to tell me, fair enough .
My brother I belief you know Kanyiba and if you do so well, now tell me who is more dissappointed by Jammeh than Kanyiba's Father (Uncle Yahya)? who never hid his support for Jammeh in Jasong,an opposition strong hold where one of his own relatives a native of the same village was an opposition MP!Now only to have his breadwinner son snatched from him in a broad day light and thus cut one of his main source of help and other relatives? Tell me!
Those who knew me and I think if I make myself known to you, you would then realise that Jammeh government since they came to power have hurt me more than the human mind can imagine. I have travelled the lenght and breadth of the Gambia campaigning against this tyrany and got many many arrests and intimidations from his gang of bandits but not one single day have I regreted opposing Jammeh.
If I was so self sentered like some Gambians, then we would have said a different story...(laughs).
I know I can talk! Infact I have been given me numerous offers just to switch over to Armedbandits Prostitute's Community(APRC) .Even some of my families called me names while some thought I will never become what they called Big man in my life. Some went on to spread a lot of lies saying I was cursed ect ect.And those same people now turn to me for help.I never turn anyone out of my house despite my wife's anger at times.
You may not not know ME online my brother but many people belief the government of Yahya Jammeh hated me because of what I believed in ....
A FREE SOCIETY WHERE YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU LIKE AS LONG AS IT DOES NOT ENDANGER ANOTHER'S LIFE!
My brother let us be strong and see the Gambia (our Gambia) and not just the boundaries of our individual compounds.Only then we can salvage the country.I tell you today if you mmake any agreement with a Gambian about something concerning your common good, he she goes behind you and damage youthinking to gain something by that.
A wise man is one who thinks about what tomorow brings than just the present!
What Kanyiba needs now is freedom and people are fighting for that including all those detained unlawfully and there is no turning back.!
ON A FINAL note!I say,
Jammeh and Gang
FREE OUR MAN KANYIBA NOW!
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Santanfara
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Posted - 25 Oct 2007 : 18:23:40
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| ebra ,that posting of yours is timely.brikama ,good vibes.i feel for kanyiba and all the unknown captives .''however long a night may be it most break into days.'' |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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brikama
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Posted - 26 Oct 2007 : 05:43:39
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I know for certain than if Americans had waited for the British to serve them a permit, USA would have never existed. If Martin Luther King had waited for a permit from the Alabama police departments, African Americans would still be segregated. If the the third estate of 18th century France had waited for King Louise to give them the permit, mordern france or free Europe would have never existed. If Nkrumah had waited for a permit to claim rights to self rule, Africa would still be under colonialism. If Sir Edward Francis Small had waited for the British to deliver the permit, we would still be paying taxes without representation.
In each of these cases, the desire for freedom guided the leaders, not looking for someone to wipe their tears. They were motivated by their own preliminary observations. Gambians must realize that no one would come to our aid in demanding for our rights.
Furthermore, the notion that the military and police would just go out killing Gambians if we demand justice and rule of law, enboldens Jammeh and his tugs.
Brikama Gidda |
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kayjatta
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Posted - 26 Oct 2007 : 08:35:07
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| Very good post Brikama! |
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kobo
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Posted - 26 Oct 2007 : 11:23:08
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Thanks Brikama because its a NATIONAL AGENDA TO FORWARD THE GAMBIA OUR HOMELAND! Its not about politics of personalities(i.e Darboe this & that, Halifa this & that, Jammeh this & that) are at stake. Its about THE BIGGER PICTURE, NATURE OF GAMBIAN POLITICS, SYSTEMS, STRUCTURES & POLITICAL ATMOSPHERE FOR -
THE GAMBIA EVER TRUE(OUR BELOVED COUNTRY, NATION & MOTHERLAND) |
Edited by - kobo on 26 Oct 2007 13:26:32 |
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