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Sister Omega
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 Posted - 16 Dec 2007 : 00:20:32
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Nyarikangabanna Jammeh Highway on the North Bank is the newest Highway in the Gambia running from Barra to Basse.As you can see it covers a much longer distance than from Banjul to Serrekunda. I saw a monument dedicated to chinese man who was working on rice projects in the jangjangbureh area on my travels in october 2007. anyway 60's 70's and 80's was the time of the Green Revolution projects, which helped to cause the desertification of the Sahel. Now is a different tand the rural exodus needs to be reversed. Gambian agriculture future lies in diversification and multi-cropping for it to produce food for the population. dependency on food imports to Gambiais no longer sustainable. Therefore more investment in agriculture from the private sector is needed and with it a revaluation of long -term goals gone are the days when educated people aspire to become office workers working in government departments. The countryside is fertile all it needs are people who are willing to work and invest in it.
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Alhassan
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Posted - 17 Dec 2007 : 12:16:51
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Alhassan, am afraid 'everybody growing on their own plot' is not......
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Everybody cannot be engaged in farming. Like you gave an example of the island of Banjul. There are no farms available here. What I mean is the division of labour. The farmers could have reserved a portion for farming. I agree with you at a point that lokal farming is not the solution. Industrilised farming is what we need with government support. But before they support you you must show that you can or have atleast some money to deposit. The other way round could be for government to employ the farmers with a montly salary and at the end the farmers surrenda their produce to their employers. This is just my opinion. Someone else might have another and you yourself might have another one that could be useful. But the question is , Do you think Government would takeour suggestions into consideration or seriousely? |
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Dec 2007 : 18:20:03
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Originally posted by Sister Omega
Nyarikangabanna Jammeh Highway on the North Bank is the newest Highway in the Gambia running from Barra to Basse......
We are not talking about the newest or longest Highway. We are talking about modernity. Most modern Highways around the globe are mainly either dual-carriage or more. The North Bank Highway is neither of the above.
Infact the main subject is how Jammeh contributed to the destruction of Agriculture in the Gambia. So clearly, what you are doing here is a distraction from the main issues. Typical!
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Dec 2007 : 20:06:36
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Nyarikangbanna in a ever changing world one has to adapt or be blown awy by the winds of change. We are now in the era of Post-Modernity and industrialized farming methods are one of the major contributing factors to Climate Change therefore a reversal to industrialise farming methods by vast monocultures harms the ecological biodiversity. Therefore multiple cropping is more suitable to the region because it assists in afforestation and attracts rain. I don't think the issue is that jammeh contributed to the destruction of Groundnut production bearing in mind that Africa itself only contributes to 6% of the world's Groundnut production with China and India being the major producers as indicated by FAO. Also you did make mention of the outward migration of people from the countryside to Urban Centres which has been consistently taking place from the 70's. Let's face facts many people just don't want to toll in the burning hot sun to scratch out a living. Also gambian farmers as farmers else where in Developing Countries cannot compete with their western counterparts who are subsidized by their governments. Therefore it is cheaper to buy imported goods than to produce the same produce locally. Now how did Jammeh contribute to these external factors?
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Alhassan
Sweden
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Posted - 19 Dec 2007 : 13:01:38
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Sister Omega,
I think we must try and look at things in practical ways. Most of the contries working force is dormant. Government could try and support a few as a trial and then monitor closely and study whilst the project is going on. Remember this would be done without political influence according to the farmers recources. In this way our farmers also would have something to export. Not import all the time. Things could be better. |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Dec 2007 : 20:21:51
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Yes, Alhassan I fully agree with you I am genuinely interested in seeing more productivity on the farms. It is disappointing to see vast tracks of land unproductive in areas of high unemployment and this trend needs to be reversed. I think Gambian farmers and landowners should benefit from seed corn projects or credit unions to assist them with the necessary seeds, and equipment needed to produce goods for both domestic and export products. This is an area that needs to be addressed by the government either to facilitate such initiatives in conjunction with other agencies and private investors etc.
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Dec 2007 : 22:27:43
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Well, thank you very much for that interesting lecture on international economics. Unfortunately and once again that is not the subject. It is an undeniable fact that the groundnut subsector was until recently the major foreign currency earner for the Gambian economy and that the mismanagement of this subsector inter alia is a serious contributory factor to the mishaps within the economy and the degredation of living standards in the Gambia particularly among the rural poor. No amount of political gimmick can distort this fact. It is self evident. So, clearly our contribution to the global quota is an irrelevant consideration.
About the global warming thing, the conventional wisdom among campaigners and scientific researchers in respect to finding sustainable solutions is not to turn our backs on farm lands and agriculture in gerenal but to improve fuel consumption efficiency of automobile machineries and also to create alternative source of energy such as bio-fuel which is wholly generated from crops like maize, sugar cane etc which are normally grown by commercial farmers in the U.S, India and Brazil. So, clearly a Gambian call for food sufficiency is not a danger to the enviroment. We failed to achieve this noble objective thanks to the incompetency of Jammeh. There is no other explanation.
I am not interested in Jammeh as a person. I am interested in policy and their outcomes, and as a citizen of full age, I deserve every right to shout criticisms if I feel the tax payers money is not well spent. That right is inalianable.
About emigration, Am sorry, I didn't talked about that. Perhaps that is your fiction. I better stop here because you are looking for a diversion. I refuse to provide you an opportunity.
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 Dec 2007 : 21:59:46
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Nyarikangbanna there is no monopoly over this thread posted in by Momodou originally about food prices in Serrekunda market as a land owner in Gambia I am interested in the productivity of farm land how my lands will contribute to the local economies in these provincial areas be it through agriculture or eco-tourism. Political gimmockery doesn't enter the equation socio-economic and environmental considerations however are important to the projects to be initiated.
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Moe
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Posted - 01 Jan 2008 : 02:51:36
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Am pretty sure Mr Nyarikangbanna i made it clear here that if you don't get your facts straight or are into malicious acts to get OJ'S name out of your slanderous nonsense.Did you ever take the time to find out what led to the failure of the cotton industry ,Jahally pacchar project and anything that had to do with agriculture in the Gambia.Your ignorance about this topic is despicable and makes me sick to my stomach my friend. The fact that you saying all this rhetoric crap with confidence is sickening. You sound like an Amateur so i will let you slide but just to inform you the failure of the agricultural sector cannot be blamed on OJ in any kind of shape or form.
Gambian men are full of crap, Make sure when you post start off explaining how lazy gambian men are especially the farmers,go to any gambian village the average woman age 20 looks like she is 60 years old due to hard work and enslavement to traditional beliefs and adhereing to the norm which is a taboo to break. The men only provide the rice or coos and the woman usually has to provide everything else the 20 0r 30 extra bags of rice are sold for the means to carry out their perversions.
The rest of the year is spent on searching for the youngest bride they can find and talking ying yang crap about politics at their individual bantaba's just like you.How can you sit here and try to reiterate something you obviously know nothing about with so much confidence. In gambia today the most succesful people are people who stayed farming and invested into it technologically .The rest are just small fish in the pond, hoping it will rain and that their land is fertile enough to produce a cob. Meanwhile awaiting a good harvest to fulfil their most intimate fantasies of sleeping with children. OJ i will reiterate is one of the most competent Gambians you will ever meet and cannot be blamed for the failure of either the Jahally pacharr project or the cotton project or agriculture at that, Did your sorry butt ever hear of Gambia's soil being so clayey and the grade of the produce too low for importation purposes infact the signs are there to show he was a capable minister and one of the best in that industry. Don't be a wanna be friend..............Peace quote:
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Alhassan, am afraid 'everybody growing on their own plot' is not the way to make a country food sufficient. If we are to go by your logic, where then would the people of Banjul grow rice? Nowhere. To make a country food sufficient, you need to be producing on an industrial scale and that requires govt participation either directly or indirectly. Jahal Pacharr project was designed to achieve this objective but thanks to the incompetence of Omar Jallow [oj [then Agricuture Minister] and his team, the objectives of the project were never realised during Jawara era. One would have expected that Jammeh would learn from the failures/mistakes of the past regime and get it right this time around especially given the healthy financial package Tiawan attached to the rivival of this project but alas Jammeh Gilanka. He is worst than I thought, in 1994, he was going to be.
Madiba, I do not know about any legal tussle that has transpired betweem MC Cham's ministry and an International Company, perhaps that is because it happened at a time when I was still a young lad. This is not to say it didn't happen but One thing is clear, MC Cham's project was not a failure at all. The Banjul-Serrekunda Highway still remains the most modern and well built road in the Gambia. Mc Cham may be tempermental [I was told] but he was definately a competent Minister and Member of Parliament.
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Moe
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Posted - 01 Jan 2008 : 03:08:31
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Jammeh cannot be blamed for anything, Just like his prdecessor he is also engaged in farming and has done almost everything possible to boost the agricultural sector. Be realistic my friend ,what has he not done ?. He started off with his own people empowering them to go back to the land and stop living in misery like they did. If it were just ideas that you have to present at a bank to get a loan we will all be succesful business men in Gambia,Our economy is not credit based and proof to repay has to be clear and the flow of income has to be regular inorder to get a loan.You people are just pathetic..............peace quote:
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Jambo,
How come forieigners controll the buisness in the Gambia? Those mentioned (Senegalese, Lebanese) are striving hard for their survival. Importation from Senegal is not much. It up to the Gambian buisnessmen to be honest to their own people. In Senegal people do all what they can to survive. They are not afraid to make their hands dirty like Gambians. Even the banks do not trust much of the Gambian people because they don't pay back their loans. This is true.
If you are a garantor to a loan taker you end up paying because the person you garanteed does not care of you at the end of the day. This is a big problem amongst us. Sometime ago there was a posting here about one gambian woman who gave money to a Gambian man to take to his people in the Gambia and the man just stole all the money and said the woman gave him nothing. Are you blind or are you not awear of these cheating attitude among Gambians? You must consult some bank staff and question them why they ask for too many garantors or you must have save the amount you want to borrow before borrowing?
There are many factors that you people disregard.
The Tractors you have suggested could have been bought when the Kombonkos sold their land. Where is all that money? They pay smuggelars 25 to 75 000 Dalasis for risky journeys why not spend the money in equipment for farming.
Alhassan, Agriculture used to be the backbone of the gambian economy and the major foreign exchange earner for the country. Jammeh came and destroy the industry particularly the groundnut subsector. That is why no one is going to the farms again. So blame jammeh, not the farmers or their children.
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