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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 05 Dec 2007 : 16:47:37
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Justice please hold/cease fire. I know that you definitely know Mr. Jatta, but please spare him further embarassment.
Our paths have met in the past. Though our relationship was purely professional. |
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BornAfrican
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Dec 2007 : 17:54:36
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Who cares whether our brothers and sisters are given good education or not. To those people responsible (DOSE of course), they have done enough by providing schools for them. Quality of education at those schools doesn't matter to them.
Can't you fit jigsaw together? The plan is to under educate them. If they are under educated, they could be ruled, tethered to ropes like animals and dragged into mass graves.
They don't give a damn. My uneducated brother cannot compete with them. But look at the picture again and try to see the kind of quality of education at schools where their own children go. It’s the same Jawara strategy. They rule us, and their children will have a better quality education to rule our children. It’s a vicious and unending cycle.
They have to remember that rejecting these young boys and girls the right education is doing none of us any good. They end up in the streets and we have seen in countries like Liberia and Sierra Leone what these un educated boys and girls can turn into.
ONLY FOOLISH LEADERS DENY THEIR PEOPLE QUALITY EDUCATION.
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Dec 2007 : 21:38:02
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A good education makes people free thinkers. That means they will question the leaders more and question the religious dogma too.
Both of these things are dangerous for stability. It is educated free thinkers that aggitate for change. Usually through the ballot box, but if not through revolution or coup.
In the UK only 100 years ago they used to think that teaching the working classes to read was a dangerous thing. Well it may be dangerous for the ruling class, but it is good for the working class.
I remember going to the bank in Serrekunda and seeing the thumb prints on the bank books (usually women). Educate women to write and read. This will empower whole families. Gradually things will have to change.
Education is the key to change and social mobility. Invest in the education of girls and as they grow up they will educate their families. |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 06 Dec 2007 : 01:21:21
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| What about boys education. They are equally important. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
3091 Posts |
Posted - 06 Dec 2007 : 08:29:25
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It seems to me that the educated boys leave the country. The educated women tend to stay.
Boys are already sent to school, it is girls left behind in poor families. |
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eire
Zimbabwe
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Posted - 06 Dec 2007 : 10:20:53
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| What about Armitage Senior Secondary School? How is it doing these days...??? I hope it continues to enjoy the support of the Government. It had/has a very useful role to do in educating the youth of the country. What schools are prospering today? As one who is in education I realize the importance of a good education system, and am very concerned... |
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jambo
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Posted - 06 Dec 2007 : 10:47:58
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Eire, i visited armitage in May it is doing okay, but a lot is needed, a science lab would help, a computer lab would help, but the pupils are struggling to meet school fees. The students were happy happy and families had made sacrifices to make the fees, I liked it because the children had a freedom that is offered in boarding schools, they are bothered by the stresses of living in the urban areas. The school is good because you have to be bright to get in and not just rich, it takes everyone regardless of tribe, religion or family. YOU JUST HAVE TO BRIGHT.
I have never met any Armitage ex student that did not hold a high decision making position in Gambia, banking, insurance, politics right across the board.
the one thing that irked me, worries me and I wish someone would explain me why. ARMITIAGE IS A GAMBIAN SCHOOL, but a high portionof teachers are not Gambian!?!?!?  why, surely there are enough teachers in Gambian no so!!
They have a spirit that should be pushed.
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ylowe
USA
217 Posts |
Posted - 07 Dec 2007 : 01:32:00
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The only way we can retain teachers is to create incentives in the teaching field cause they too got families to feed and care for. How about a D5000.00 monthly salaries for teachers. The sshfc housing scheme should have been for the working class in the Gambia including the teachers instead of selling it at a high price that most of the working class cannot afford.
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 07 Dec 2007 : 09:16:16
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the reason i ask about armitage and its teachers if the non gambian teachers can manage on this salary why not Gambian teachers. sometimes I see schools that are mis managed, if all children paid school fees on time then there would be money in fund to pay for teachers, but if the school allows children to be educated and then chase them for schools fees you will have less money in the fund. Not so
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eire
Zimbabwe
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Posted - 09 Dec 2007 : 12:07:28
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
1275 Posts |
Posted - 09 Dec 2007 : 16:40:33
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Originally posted by ylowe
The only way we can retain teachers is to create incentives in the teaching field cause they too got families to feed and care for. How about a D5000.00 monthly salaries for teachers. The sshfc housing scheme should have been for the working class in the Gambia including the teachers instead of selling it at a high price that most of the working class cannot afford.
Teachers loves cars too
Ylowe i agree wit you in toto. I understand there was talk of a teachers service commission, whic was going to be charged wit teacher appointment and other matters. i dnt know whether it materilaised or not. If the salaries are right and the conditions of service are right then that could help alleviate the situation.WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE GOOSE IS GOOD FOR THE GANDER |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 10 Dec 2007 : 11:36:28
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bornafrica, i think you have a point, i looked back over some postings and thought why the education in Gambia so bad, it is not as if there are no schools, but maybe it is the attitude that is wrong. Take teachers wages. one point is this i see is finance, if the schools had proper administration and fees were paid then something would balance, but if 30% of school fees are not paid, before you shout, if there is a fee to pay then the family should pay it, or accept the shortfall. but some schools allow the children to stay two years without paying fees, to miss one term payment is bad, but three or four is riduclous.
Also teachers wages are slow low it is ridiculous, is it true they have not had a pay rise for 5 years
Secondly, accountability, i heard that people have paid fees to the schools and it has not been used correctly but has been pocketed that is corruption.
Funding, a high % of schools do not receive funding, why not.
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Momodou
Denmark
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Posted - 10 Dec 2007 : 20:46:35
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There are between 80 and 100 students in classes at schools like the Gambia Senior Secondary School (former GHS). It is impossible for a teacher to know all these students and be able to assist those who really need help. Some of these teachers could even be teaching both morning and afternoon shifts. |
A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Dec 2007 : 22:10:32
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The issues are the same the world over.
1. Teacher training. Costs? Length of time? relevance to the job?
experience of the trainers.
2. Amount of people trained. If Gambia doesn't train enough Gambian teachers where do the rest come from? Are they well qualified and experienced or are they another countries rejects?
3. Income? How does a teachers pay compare with other jobs? In Uk teaching WAS a profession, but these days teaching falls behind many other jobs and is struggling to have a middle class life style. In many areas teachers cant afford a house. I earn less than a builder or a long distance lorry driver.
4. Gambian working conditions. If teachers are moved around the country I think it is important they have good accommodation provided and a transport allowance to help them visit their families. This might help with recruitment.
Education is key to the development of any country. Teachers need to be well trained, respected and well motivated in order to give of their best to the students. |
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concort
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Posted - 10 Dec 2007 : 22:38:11
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Momodou, I agree with your assertion to a certain degree. Do you remember Mr. Charles Fowlis? I attended his after school study sessions in Sukuta with a class close to 100, if not more, and many of us were able to pass the WAEC common entrance with flying colors.
The education system in The Gambia is grossly misunderstood. It's my belief that the instructors, students and faculty (the entire student body) should strive for excellence. Also, favorism to certain students academically should be avoided. Students from priviledge families would hire teachers who assisted them in passing their classes without applying much effords on their part. The after school teachers were also the regular teachers during regular school hours. The foreign teachers would team up with their colleaques to provide them with the questions of the final exams weeks in advance just to pass them along to their students. These very same students were the ones who under-performed during the GCE "O" examination. I'm sure that those of you who attended St. Augustine's High school during Sam Njie's era would agree with me.
While it is true that incentives should be given to the qualified teachers, students should avoid skipping classes and relying on their classmates to copy their"notes". While books, computers and decent and friendly learning environment is well desired, students should quit dreaming about babylon and focus on their studies first. Team work makes the dream work. Just my 2 cents. |
As Salamu Alaikum Waramatullah Wabarakatu |
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