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Momodou
Denmark
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 Posted - 01 Oct 2007 : 22:43:23
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Foroyaa Editorial
The Death Penalty
When Will There Be A Review?
Some readers have been asking why Tabara Samba was sentenced to death and not to a term of imprisonment as those convicted of treason. The position of the law on murder as stated explicitly in section 118 of the Criminal Code states: “Any person convicted of murder shall be sentenced to death.”
This means that once a person is convicted of murder the court has no option but to sentence him/her to death.
This law is valid because section 18(1) of the Constitution permits it.
It states: “No person shall be deprived of his or her life intentionally except in the execution of a sentence of death imposed by a court of competent jurisdiction in respect of a criminal offence for which the penalty is death under the laws of The Gambia of which he or she has been lawfully convicted.
However, subsection (3) of section 18 of the Constitution gives the National Assembly the responsibility to evaluate the merits and demerits of the death penalty.
It states: “The National Assembly shall within ten years from the date of the coming into force of this Constitution review the desirability or otherwise of the total abolition of the death penalty in The Gambia.”
The Constitution came into force on 16 January 1997 and has been in force for more than 10 years now. Will the National Assembly abdicate its responsibility?
Will the Executive that normally tables such Bills sweep the issue under carpet?
Source: Foroyaa Newspaper Burning Issue
Issue No. 115/2007, 1 - 2 October, 2007
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dembis
Sweden
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Posted - 01 Oct 2007 : 23:03:58
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| Do they cross examine the defendant`s health?I believe many of this cases like death sentences are so sensible to be easily judge by some bunch of naive men.Am sure the jury or the judges are men who thinks that if they don`t set an example their would be another case like this.So to exercised their musculin genes and not feel threatting by a women.Let us be fair enough to try and feel the opposite sex and think if we happen to be in their position,how can it be.Our dear mothers back home are not happy anymore especially when they their husbands are going to marry a young woman.Do everyone of us know that our mums and sisters are psychological unstable because of us men.Thats why me and you are acting the ways we think is normal.Is not fair to sentence her to death and we should all stand to fight this partial judgement we call law.their are many murderers in town we know and they are more free than you do.So please let no one believe in this death penalty.thanks |
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serenata
Germany
1400 Posts |
Posted - 02 Oct 2007 : 16:13:41
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| Dembis, you are so right. |
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Sibo
Denmark
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Posted - 03 Oct 2007 : 11:33:16
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I cannot believe this!!!!!!
She killed a person for God´s sake........
Even if the husband was going to find another wife, did not give her the right to take his life.
She is a freaking grown woman, she could have left him or something.you guys want to let this woman get away with murder, you gotta be kidding me.. I bet if you were involve personally, you would think and feel differently |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 03 Oct 2007 : 15:46:09
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my sister sibo ,how are you ? i have refuse to add my voice here due to the sentimentality involve. try to assess the whole situation differently .i don't think they ever kill any body in the gambia for murder .they go to prison for life .the death penalty is just there as bulahuva lope hole .tabara ,have alrady regreted the greed and rage that compel her to kill her belove husand. the guilt alone will kill her ,so please be well aassured that any one who takes another man/woman life whether in the battle field or otherwise never forget that experience.even train military officers are having all sorts of break dowm let alone a woman who acts due the spore of the moment thing.
follow the number of u.s military in phsycratic units and the cost to the tax payers .her case is sad i believe .i pray that your uncle souls rest in peace. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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kayjatta
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Posted - 04 Oct 2007 : 08:01:46
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It is sad that Santafara has to use this occasion to talk ill of United States again.This is a classic case of "displacement of frustration". His statement about the number of U.S. troops in psychiatric facilities is narrow-minded, misguided and misplaced. To directly link murder and institutionalization in psychiatric facilities is not only falacious but also absurd. If that is the case Edward Singhateh, Sana Sabally, Bombarde, and many others in the Gambia army as well as others around the world today or in history would be experiencing (or have experienced) the same fate.
What causes SOME combatants or veterans to experience psychological/psychiatric problems is in itself a psychological/psychiatric question that Honorable Santafara is not competent to diagnose and answer. Yet any attempt at discussing this question must examine the totality of the war experience as well as the individual personality of the affected soldiers. Santafara clearly ignored all of that; instead he jumped to a sweeping conclusion based on his deep-seated cultural stereotypes.
I hope that in future we will base our arguments on concrete facts, and not stereotypes and half-truths.
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Sibo
Denmark
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Posted - 04 Oct 2007 : 08:57:09
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Santanfara
I do not support death penalty and I really do feel sorry that Tabara has to go through this. I do not want her killed or even sentence to life in prison. I just want people to acknowledge the fact that she did kill her husband, but everybody is so damn busy with playing the feminine card and try to make her look like the victim, she is not a victim. As kayjatta said, lets base our arguments on the facts and the fact in this case is she killed her husband.
Dembis
How do you know that the all the jury members were men, where did you read about that? With all the respect, what you wrote is just BS and you do not have any facts to back your argument. |
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jambo
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Posted - 04 Oct 2007 : 10:33:29
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sibo, as you say base it on fact, other issues that cloud the decision are personal and open to mood swings.
this case should be based on FACTS only. |
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Sibo
Denmark
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Posted - 04 Oct 2007 : 11:26:07
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Jambo
That just what I´m asking people to do. Some think that I am angry because I am personally involved, thats not it. I just want people to see the facts instead of making Mrs. Samba look like the victim. |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 04 Oct 2007 : 11:30:07
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| read the other postings |
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Santanfara
3460 Posts |
Posted - 04 Oct 2007 : 11:40:39
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quote:
Originally posted by kayjatta
It is sad that Santafara has to use this occasion to talk ill of United States again.This is a classic case of "displacement of frustration". His statement about the number of U.S. troops in psychiatric facilities is narrow-minded, misguided and misplaced. To directly link murder and institutionalization in psychiatric facilities is not only falacious but also absurd. If that is the case Edward Singhateh, Sana Sabally, Bombarde, and many others in the Gambia army as well as others around the world today or in history would be experiencing (or have experienced) the same fate.
What causes SOME combatants or veterans to experience psychological/psychiatric problems is in itself a psychological/psychiatric question that Honorable Santafara is not competent to diagnose and answer. Yet any attempt at discussing this question must examine the totality of the war experience as well as the individual personality of the affected soldiers. Santafara clearly ignored all of that; instead he jumped to a sweeping conclusion based on his deep-seated cultural stereotypes.
I hope that in future we will base our arguments on concrete facts, and not stereotypes and half-truths.
Thanks.
at last my honourable american uncle realise that playing with others mindset is not a joke .oh but may be he thought i was just refering just to the u.s .i was using america becaue it is the biggest single country that regularly send her son/daughters to fight other countries and in that process people get killed and some them too get kill .my arguement is to kill any one is not child play .the after shock is can be terrible .if you see that point fine if not fine.
you kay regularly engage in wanton vilification of our cultures and believes as if they some mumbo jumbo piece of **** and you have the audacity to get angry .get a life .please google now the number of soldeirs in secure units due to war experience ,don't just keep on lambasting us about how great the u.s democracy is and how human right is protected ,also tell the real cost to others .please forward such articles some times .death is death .i sympatise with the lady in question due the fact she may not have prediatate the whole issue ,but never the less she should be held accountable of actions .thats it kay .tell us how many soldiers world wide are in secure unit .start a new topic on that as well . |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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Santanfara
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Posted - 04 Oct 2007 : 12:06:50
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| kay .get this straight .i do not hate america or americans .america is a country of diverse people some as they describe them ,bleading heart librals or others red neck republicans and there are those in between .i have nothing against the american people .got it .so don't start insinuating any thing here .we come here to enjoy each other company and get some informations and feed our mind thats it .whatever your one sided defence of the administration in wastington polices are is your business . |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
www.suntoumana.blogspot.com |
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dembis
Sweden
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Posted - 04 Oct 2007 : 23:29:23
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| dear sibo, i know that personally you are involved and i could understand your frustration.am just gonna ask you,do you think tabara is healthy psychologically to stand for a trial?how many psychologsit involve in this cased to crossed examined the defendant?i guess you want to applied sharia in this cased because you are angry.do you investigate how many men judges or jury involves in this trial and the procecutors?come on we know gambia.please set me straight on records and that would help me believe that the judge that sentence tabara was a woman.do you know that if you get rape in gambia mostly no man want to listen to your story.what they would asked is where have you being and what kind of dress you was wearing on that day.for almost all this question in some countries are irrelevant because the woman challenges mens decision.am sorry for the deceased and the lost all of you are surfering.he was living in sweden and get pension and i met him once. |
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Sibo
Denmark
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Posted - 05 Oct 2007 : 09:06:37
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Dembis
First of all, lets get some things straight. If you read my postings you will know that I do not support death penalty at all and how did sharia fit in this all of a sudden. Gambia is not an islamic state. As I said I do not want Tabara killed or anything. I am just sick you and some others trying to make this whole thing look like Tabara is the victim here, she is not.Lets face the facts guys, she did kill him, she admit and regret what she did, so why are you guys twisting the whole case. I know that some women are being abused by their husbands and so, but that is irrelevant in this particular case, she was not being abused. And I think she is sane, sane enough to regret what she did. I do not even want her jailed, cause with this man´s life on her conscious that is enough punishment.
Answer me on this one: Do you want Tabara to get away with murder, do you want them to set her free????Do you want every woman in gambia who commits a crime to go free because the judge or the jury members are men?? If so, then why the hell do we even have laws in the country if we keep on bending them???? Every time a woman goes to trial, the judge has to be a woman because all gambian men are sexists?
You know as well as I do that back then women do not get to go to school, not many women are educated, how many women judges do you know in gambia.
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kayjatta
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Posted - 05 Oct 2007 : 09:14:29
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| Hey, i'm not sexist Sibo!!!(laughs). But I definitely see your point... |
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Sibo
Denmark
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Posted - 05 Oct 2007 : 09:39:56
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Kay I´m lad that you are not sexist (lol)
I´m just trying to me a point. This is a murder case, I do not see why they have to bring other stoff in this.
If anybody wanna talk about the legal system not working in gambia, then that another talk. |
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