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Karamba
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kobo
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 26 Aug 2007 : 16:03:30
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What a TRAGEDY '' Ausu billahi mina saitani rajim'' (7 times!). Costs of lives, moral decadence, family breakdowns, sex & prostitution, environmental hazards of the Irag, Afghan & Middle-East wars outweighs the $25 Billion approved by U.S under Geaorge Bush for more arms supply to Gulf and Middle-East in the fight against TERRORISM, OIL, RELIGION & POLITICS.
There is TERROR IN IRAG! |
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serenata
Germany
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Posted - 27 Aug 2007 : 17:40:07
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Do you really expect anything else? Wherever this decadent and barbarian nation sets foot in prostitution, drug dealing and crime flourish. Look what happened in Thailand during the Vietnam war - and Thailand was not even occupied by the US.  |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 27 Aug 2007 : 18:28:18
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| a sad episoud . |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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kayjatta
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Posted - 28 Aug 2007 : 10:03:12
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| Hey wait a minute who are carrying out this heinous crime , not Americans its the arabs and other Iraqis. Read the article again. We could blame America for invading the country , but the sex traders (buyers and suppliers) are arab millionaires for example. Remember what happened to group of Gambian girls send to Kuwait in 1995 ? This is part of the problem I was trying to talk about when I discussed Muttah marriage earlier. |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 28 Aug 2007 : 10:41:26
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Kay, think about what triggers this situation
What do you expect if MOSQUES ARE SHATTERED, WISDOM and ''BISMI LAAHI RAHMAANI RAHIM or IN THE NAME OF GOD! GRACIOUS! MOST MERCIFUL! and LAA ILLAAHA ILLAL LAAH or THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH'' are being eradicated from the minds both by political, psychological and physical means?
Remember that ''IN GOD WE TRUST'' is a powerful engravement every where in U.S. |
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kayjatta
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Posted - 28 Aug 2007 : 10:53:39
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| America had to act in its national interest and remove a dictator. Iraqis had a chance to build a lasting and all-inclusive democracy but ethnic ideology and religious dogmatism is preventing them from taking any step forward. "In God we Trust" is only symbolic in America today. It has lost all of its essence. You may not be able to display it at some public places. |
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LEMON TIME
Afghanistan
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Posted - 28 Aug 2007 : 12:53:27
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Why do the Germans hate Americans?sorry am out of the topic.
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There is no god but Allah |
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LEMON TIME
Afghanistan
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Posted - 28 Aug 2007 : 12:55:31
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The Americans Just cant let the World have another Hitler.
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There is no god but Allah |
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Sibo
Denmark
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Posted - 28 Aug 2007 : 14:45:32
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Kay
Was America´s interest removing a dictator or did they have a hidden agenda?????
There are many other dictators in this world, why have US not removed them yet??? Is it because they do not have the oil that Us wants to lay its hands on???
If US did not invade Iraq, I´m sure that prostitution will not be one of the problems and that people will not sell their own children to strangers. What is happening in Iraq is treeible and we only have US to thank for it. |
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serenata
Germany
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Posted - 28 Aug 2007 : 16:49:54
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Kayjatta, of course you are right. But I don't know if all these things would happen without the war and the occupation.
Lemon, please notice: Many Germans are against US because they suspect that US politics are not too far away from Nazi politics. If you look closer you will see ethnocentrism, megalomania, imperialism, racism in the US - almost the same like in Nazi Germany. People all around the world are tortured and killed by the CIA, just like Gestapo. Etc. etc. Thank you, we Germans had enough of this stuff. No further demand. |
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turk
USA
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Posted - 28 Aug 2007 : 22:37:30
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mr. kayjatta says:quote:
Hey wait a minute who are carrying out this heinous crime , not Americans its the arabs and other Iraqis. Read the article again. We could blame America for invading the country , but the sex traders (buyers and suppliers) are arab millionaires for example. Remember what happened to group of Gambian girls send to Kuwait in 1995 ? This is part of the problem I was trying to talk about when I discussed Muttah marriage earlier.
Hmmm. Let me day dream. America's gdp per capita goes to $ 2000 per year, invaded by chinese army. Would there be any prostituion? America is already paradise of sex trade in peace times. And you are still blaming 'arab millionaries'? Sex for money is the oldest economic activity for survival. One can not deny to fact that occupation and misery, lawnessless brought by crusaders not a reason for sex trade.
and mr.kayjatta continues.quote:
America had to act in its national interest and remove a dictator. Iraqis had a chance to build a lasting and all-inclusive democracy but ethnic ideology and religious dogmatism is preventing them from taking any step forward. "In God we Trust" is only symbolic in America today. It has lost all of its essence. You may not be able to display it at some public places.
"national interests". Oh because, saddam was a dictator. Isn't it the king of egypt a dictator, or saudi king, or saddam during 80s. Iraq was a source for terrorism? Did iraq had any radical islamists? Did any of the 9/11 member from iraq? Was saddam, who is socialist, baas islamists? Was there WMD? Did they find anything? Are you smoking? Was there prostition in iraq before, death, bombing? There were arab millionire exist before too.
Serenata. Bingo.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 29 Aug 2007 : 00:22:41
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| kondorong ,our gambian friend kay never fail ,so don't even scrutine his posting too hard.i have realise what line the guy is coming from. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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kayjatta
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Posted - 29 Aug 2007 : 09:48:07
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SIBO , Serenata , Turk , etc :
I would not know whether U.S. has a hidden agenda or not , I guess we can only speculate which is "hidden". I agree with you that there are other dictators or pseudo-dictators in the Middle East such as Egypt , Saudi Arabia etc. The difference between Iraq and these countries is that Saddam ,unlike the king of Saudi or Mubarak of Egypt,ruled with brute force , mercilessly killing his opponents and spraying whole villages with chemical weapons in Halabja for example.He was also known to be vigorously pursuing nuclear and chemical weapons until recently. The Iraqi government under Saddam was very defiant and has ran cat and mouse with U.N. weapons inspectors for years basically denying them access to his stock of weaponry. Therefore , following 911 U.S. became very worried about the possibility of states like Iraq (with a possibility of nuclear or chemical weapons)forging and alliance with terrorists to harm America. Hence George Bush's "Axis of Evil" theory. Although Iraq under Saddam has been known to have paid families of suicide bombers up to $20,000 for operating in Israel and elsewhere , it is genrally agreed now (after the fact) that the pre-war U.S. intelligence on Iraq was faulty. Iraq had long abandoned its pursuit of weapons of mass destruction (maybe due to the effect of the sanctions)but Saddam continued to bluff he had them . True Iraq is a Pandora's Box that Saddam kept the lid on with brute force , but you cannot blame all the evil in Iraq today on the U.S. invasion. Iraqis are supposed to be rational beings and must be responsible for their own actions. The people who are prostituting or selling their daughters (remember Arab culture doesn't have an impressive history of valuing daughters)cannot meet God and tell Him that they did what they did because of American invasion. That excuse is not going to fly in the Lord's courtroom.Iraqis must be able to make wise choices even in the face of hardship.The chaos in Iraq today is solely their making. The energy , time and blood they are expending fighting each other or the "crusader" could have united their country and usher in a new era of democracy and prosperity for all of them... |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 29 Aug 2007 : 10:02:29
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| before you go mr kay ,can you tell us which dictator is worst than mr bush today ? or are you scared to include him in that equation .as for hidden agenda ,don't try to be smart ,they told the world that saddam has weapon of mass distruction but the observers told us there was non yet you kay can tell us here you cannot see any hidden agenda ,are you a white house pr guru now ? tell us .the whole world came to realise the agenda was never about weapons but american global dominace which was taking place decades before bush junior came in .we are not blind here mr kay .you can be open minded about every thing else except the u.s .who gave mr bush the right to attack another peoples country ? please read your own american authors book ''drafting a plan for global dominance'' by david armstrong ,he is not a muslim by the way .in that despacrh you will read who collin poweel really is and how he pretend to mr nice .even the un presentation of weapon sites where all false .don't you know that as well mr kay ? |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
www.suntoumana.blogspot.com |
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kayjatta
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Posted - 29 Aug 2007 : 10:34:45
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Santafara , there are a lot of "conspiracy theorists" out there about this and that. What I can however discuss are the things that are evident for all to see. I have said that we all agree now that U.S. pre-war intelligence was wrong and that I wish U.S. did not have to invade Iraq. Collin Powell is an exemplary man , his decisions in the war in Iraq were based on the intelligence report by the CIA which turned out to be wrong. Powell is known to have advised Bush not to invade Iraq . Hence his famous quote "if you break it you own it...". The U.S. people gave Bush the right to go after terrorists whereever they are. They , the terrorists and their supporters in Afghanistan and elsewhere started the war on the civilized world by conducting a series of attacks in East Africa , Yemen , twice on the WTC , and later in London , Spain and other places.Can we close our eyes to these facts ?
American presidents , including Bush are very much checked by the judiciary and congress. The president cannot dictate anything. If you look at the supreme court decision about the Guantanamo detainees and congress's rejection of Bush's immigration bill you will realise how power is shared in the U.S. government. It is very impressive , and that is the system I wish to see in the Gambia if I become president of that country one day ; did I tell you I am interested in that position  ? |
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