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Karamba
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 19 Jul 2007 : 01:30:05
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Of all the class of citizens in Gambia, the youth population suffers as most adversely affected by Jammeh's deceptive politics. If we take the most active age of 20-25 to serve as bench mark, lot of Gambians in that age bracket are the most down trodden victims. The reason is simple to see. As at July 1994, children at age 7 are now 20 years. At that tender age of 7, their maturity was no help to reason about politics. Those who already attained the fruitful age of 25 were only 12 years in July 1994. Age 12 does not seem to attract much responsibility in both social and political context. It is mainly these youths Jammeh robbed most when he first claimed his infamous JULY REVOLUTION was meant for the YOUTH. There and then, the National Youth Service was bolstered to lure up youth from every district to be recruited first in a para military training. Next they have been placed on free apprenticeship and vocational training in various disciplines. Even after killing youth students and harassing youth journalists, the remaining youth population still think this is a real Youth Revolution. Some ambitious youth, out of frustration, ventured the wild sea voyage to reach out for the uncertainties of Europe, just to die at sea. Others who failed to make the risky journey have been held as criminals by Gambian security. In all fairness of course, this Jammeh dictatorship is most deceptive and unfavourable to the youth population. If he was real to the youth, it is time that he appoints younger state ministers and pave way for his own exit as he now runs beyond age 40. But we are told he chooses to stay for another 40 years. Will that still keep him as youth president?
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Edited by - Karamba on 19 Jul 2007 01:46:59 |
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South Africa
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Posted - 19 Jul 2007 : 13:31:28
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| Well said,Karamba.I see a Chairman Mao,a Robert Mugabe,etc.They all understood the youth as a pillar of the nation,twisted them into believing they were part of change and used them for their own political gains.Youth is vulnerable,especially when they are desperate for income,easy to manipulate.But never say never,the same youth might bring him down. |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Jul 2007 : 16:52:07
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Karamba, excuse me but it seems am missing something here. Are you saying that those babies age 7 have been aiding Jammeh for the past 12years? Coomon brotherman lets cut the hypocrisy. Nothing is further from the truth than saying Jammeh used the NYSS to his advantage. My brother thats not true. I have seen many who went into the scheme making a decent living out of the training they got from the programme.
You see no matter how much we want Jammeh out of the way lets report the truth.
In his appointment of youthful ministers, are you insinuating that he appoints babies too? I think in as much as we believe in youth, the need for experience and sound academic qualification should take precedence.
Karamba sell me the truth and i shall buy. Anything less than the truth is for the bin. |
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mansasulu
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Posted - 19 Jul 2007 : 17:12:26
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I am still trying to wrap my head around Karamba's reasoning in using the ages 7 and 12. Are you saying that the youth whose age fall in that range were the ones who mainly took part in the NYSS scheme?
I personally know of youth who benefitted under the NYSS scheme and they ar by no means between the ages of 7-12. In as much as we want to see the man out, he appointed more youthful ministers than Jawara. Or is between 20-25 you consider "youth"...?
You call venturing the wild seas to get to Europe ambitious? You are kidding right...That is suicide. |
"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)
...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah... |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jul 2007 : 18:26:11
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To Madiba and Mansasulu,
If you were sitting to your final exams, this was a solid ZERO for your level of READING and COMPREHENSION. Before any attempts to explain to rest of the readers what is behind the figures 7 and 12, you two needed being referred for a PROPER READING of my text. I trust you have skipped the MESSAGE and MEANING. That is the fatal peril of misreading. Sorry, you failed to get the message. In the text, there is both English and Arithmetic. It seems you missed both. Sorry to put it that way, but you certainly misunderstood. "...Read the following instructions CAREFULLY before answering ANY question....." Go on guys, read and comprehend. |
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Edited by - Karamba on 19 Jul 2007 18:44:58 |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
1275 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jul 2007 : 18:54:18
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| Karamba assuming that i missed ur message do us a favour and unravel your wonderful thesis. Waiting in earnest. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jul 2007 : 18:58:30
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Madiba,
This is no thesis. The text is short and simple. Read it. I don't don't believe in mystification. |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
1275 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jul 2007 : 19:12:03
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Originally posted by Karamba
Madiba,
This is no thesis. The text is short and simple. Read it. I don't don't believe in mystification.
Karamba, i called it a thesis because for one to come up wit such wonderful piece, one must have done some research before presenting it to a grand place like Bantaba.
Karamba if your net is so intricate to undo, pls come out plain, rather than unleasing a wild goose chase. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jul 2007 : 19:35:44
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Madi,
I recognise no bigger issue in this. The facts are set before you and 1.5 million brothers and sisters of Gambia. Let's give chance for the remaining readership and see if they pick the message. If all fail to pick the message as intended, I am more than happy to retrack, delete or improve the text. For now, we better allow others to read and see if the message is still opaque or transparent. OK. |
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bread man
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Posted - 19 Jul 2007 : 19:49:33
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Madis and mansalu, although am most in contrast views with Karamba, I do understand what he is trying (just the good old thing, Jammeh Bad).
Karamba, am so suprise by the energy you spend being anti- Jammeh. I think you are one of those well certified guys with a lot of certificates based somewhere in Europe or America. Please use that to help us develop our dear nation. Jammeh does not own the Gambia and will never own it. However, he is the head of state and that gives him previledges. Now, your irritation towards Jammeh or his system of governance should not deprive us the average poor Gambians of your intelligence. So please be sure you will be very welcome in the Gambia with your brief case full of phds, masters, batchelors etc. Sincerely brotherman.
By the way, yoyr message is very clear and transparent, am sure it´s just misunderstood. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jul 2007 : 20:22:39
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Bread Man,
That is where I reserve the greatest respect for you. We share divergent views, but we do understand where the other is coming from. No hard feelings towards Madiba and Mansasulu. They have gone in for a case of hasty conclusion with a splash of preconception. That is not fair. If we (as a nation) choose to keep Jammeh up to his dream 40 more years in power, there has to be a fair deal. He's got to accept the previlege of higher power with greater responsibility and ethics. His present conduct is not proper for the position. It is not a matter of unseating Jammeh. It is about setting the environment balanced. Where Jammeh refuses to embrace the best standards, it means him requiring a change. To change him, or to change his seating. Clear as that. We need that change of the seat or the seater. |
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mansasulu
997 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jul 2007 : 21:15:12
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| I am beginning to wonder if you understand what you write yourself. My response to your initial posting is filled with questions, a total of 3. Instead of answering them by clearifying your position, you go off on a tangent as usual. I think you have a problem of understanding yourself. Pending a clarification from you, I will continue to hold on to my full response for now. I believe you are obsessed with Jammeh, really...Gambia is bigger than Jammeh and I am sure fellow bantaba members will agree with me that you need to channel you energy into more productive issues. "You seem to have a lot of time on your hands..."(remember that quote)? |
"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)
...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah... |
Edited by - mansasulu on 19 Jul 2007 21:16:52 |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jul 2007 : 21:24:49
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Mansasulu,
It is fine with me if you keep firm grips of your opinion about what you conceive from my postings. That on itself has no potential to shift me by one inch or drift of angle around the 360 diameter. I expect free opinion holders over a forum free as Bantaba and not hard line judges. If I had no understanding of what I wrote, I am glad that better brains do. If you can boast of the superior gift of understanding, wonder why you could not make sense of simple statements of fact. Bless your efforts in digging. |
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mansasulu
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Posted - 19 Jul 2007 : 21:36:53
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| I am still waiting for your response to the 3 questions I asked in my first post. If your initial posting made sense to you, it should not be difficult. You see, it is easier for you attack other people rather than simply defending your positions. |
"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)
...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah... |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jul 2007 : 22:23:50
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Can you two take a break. Rememeber jammeh is enjoying "afra" right nowwith a tumblar of "attaya". So walk away and come back. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jul 2007 : 22:25:03
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Mansasulu,
It is unclear what you still struggle with. Where are you coming from with all the heap of opinion? You have demonstrated a defect of opinionated innertia. In all my postings, can you pick ONE where I have preferred to "ATTACK OTHER PEOPLE." This bit from you enhances the evidence that you READ with preconception. Yes, about Jammeh, I have driven much on. That is not because of my PERSONAL interest on the flesh and bone of a certain Yahya Jammeh. I choose to address the seat of president in Gambia. Whoever sets to occupy that seat, you are there to be pointed and touched on. Be that you Mansasulu or even a wild elephant from the jungles, that position invariably attracts public attention. Get Jammeh out today, you sit on and see where we go from there. There again, you have it wrong with the opinion that I am obsessed about Jammeh. Get that clear. In passing, please re-read my posting at start of this topic, and please, please, read with very open mind and without opinionated rigidity. Your 3 or more questions are already answered in the short statement if only you care to free your mind as I do. Where did the first respondent get the understanding of bringing in the examples of Mugabe and Chairman Mao? Have you seen that? Please read with simplicity to avoid complicating little matters. |
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