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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
 Posted - 22 May 2007 : 21:38:30
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Bread Man,
Is this deliberate or a forgivable default in your perception? To mention that "this is not about Dr Yahya but about Gambia" means just that. It is a gentle invitation for you and your likes to see THE GAMBIA more than the tiny image of Dr Yahya you keep projecting on the big screen. It is too much for a country like Gambia to keep one person ruining it more than enough. Bread Man, don't underscore yourself. In very sincere terms, we need looking at where we are going as a nation. Just the other day it was your same government that lamented over economic hardship imposed by rising prices. Did you read or heard of that? On the high-sounding 60+%, it is sad to cling on that. You keep repeating this as though genuine citizens have to pretend it was not all a coup that now prevails in the most brutal form of treacherous ditatorship! If you don't mind, peak it up to good 90% and be assured a resoluting 10% will never fall asleep while our dear nation sinks. You sound as though you have no regards for the plight of a MINORITY whatever statistical data you work that on. It is great occasion to celebrate and respect diversity. |
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bread man
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Posted - 22 May 2007 : 21:54:47
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| "It is great occasion to celebrate and respect diversity". That is exactly my point Bro. Am seeing the Gambia as a land of democracy where the majority decides who get to run the affairs of the nation. Am not against critizms but if you criticise you should be able to justify it. We have decided that we like the way the nation is going. Yes with hardship that does not spare anybody, be it pro or anti Jammeh. But what development comes without hardships? Am sure you know what I mean. Anyway, if you cannot defeat us, then join us and put your great ideas on the table whilst we await the next election. Finally, I do not have to read about the economic hardship in the Gambia am living it, but thatīs my sacrifice for my children and grand children. |
It is the mark of intelligence to entertain an idea without accepting it. |
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bread man
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Posted - 22 May 2007 : 21:54:47
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| "It is great occasion to celebrate and respect diversity". That is exactly my point Bro. Am seeing the Gambia as a land of democracy where the majority decides who get to run the affairs of the nation. Am not against critizms but if you criticise you should be able to justify it. We have decided that we like the way the nation is going. Yes with hardship that does not spare anybody, be it pro or anti Jammeh. But what development comes without hardships? Am sure you know what I mean. Anyway, if you cannot defeat us, then join us and put your great ideas on the table whilst we await the next election. Finally, I do not have to read about the economic hardship in the Gambia am living it, but thatīs my sacrifice for my children and grand children. |
It is the mark of intelligence to entertain an idea without accepting it. |
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Karl
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Posted - 22 May 2007 : 22:35:14
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| Gambia needs a well defined presidential term in our constitution. Life president, that's out of it! Whether Jammeh has done well or not this has to be observed and respected in the true sense of Democracy. The only way to move up is to embrace change otherwise greed and corruption in power will step in, unfortunately Jammeh has already open his doors to that. We need to understand one thing, be it Jammeh or any furure presidents, Gambia cannot afford to have one man stay stuck in that position for life. I think many Gambians will agree with me, 13 years of fatal trap under Jammeh's dictatorship is enough. |
"People who shut their eyes to reality simply invite their own destruction, and anyone who insists on remaining in a state of innocence long after that innocence is dead turns himself into a monster" J Baldwin |
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Karl
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Posted - 22 May 2007 : 22:35:14
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| Gambia needs a well defined presidential term in our constitution. Life president, that's out of it! Whether Jammeh has done well or not this has to be observed and respected in the true sense of Democracy. The only way to move up is to embrace change otherwise greed and corruption in power will step in, unfortunately Jammeh has already open his doors to that. We need to understand one thing, be it Jammeh or any furure presidents, Gambia cannot afford to have one man stay stuck in that position for life. I think many Gambians will agree with me, 13 years of fatal trap under Jammeh's dictatorship is enough. |
"People who shut their eyes to reality simply invite their own destruction, and anyone who insists on remaining in a state of innocence long after that innocence is dead turns himself into a monster" J Baldwin |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2007 : 22:53:48
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Karl,
There is no better way of summarising the issue. You have clear and simple. Jammeh is simply a DOT in the history of our nation. He broke in fatally accidental and nothing of this deceitful developmental carjole is enough. We have to see beyond INDIVIDUALS; individual person, individual part(y/ies), individual group of rogues, etc. Longivity breeds passion for corruption and domination. Long before Jammeh, individuals who occupied key public positions played on the position(s) as though they owned it. This included and still includes ambassadors, ministers, heads of institutions, etc. That is what needs changing it it has to start with the position of president (not president Jammeh.) When the term president is mentioned, it does not have to be a permanent sticker on one person.
Well done Karl for this very sensible input. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2007 : 22:53:48
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Karl,
There is no better way of summarising the issue. You have clear and simple. Jammeh is simply a DOT in the history of our nation. He broke in fatally accidental and nothing of this deceitful developmental carjole is enough. We have to see beyond INDIVIDUALS; individual person, individual part(y/ies), individual group of rogues, etc. Longivity breeds passion for corruption and domination. Long before Jammeh, individuals who occupied key public positions played on the position(s) as though they owned it. This included and still includes ambassadors, ministers, heads of institutions, etc. That is what needs changing it it has to start with the position of president (not president Jammeh.) When the term president is mentioned, it does not have to be a permanent sticker on one person.
Well done Karl for this very sensible input. |
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bread man
300 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2007 : 23:03:55
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| Put a petition for a referandum for the constitution to be amended to suit that purpose, I will surely vote in favour of putting a specific term for the presidency. In the meantime our dear constitution does not accommodate that factor, and I respect and honour my constitution. Yes, Karl did well by saying it all. |
It is the mark of intelligence to entertain an idea without accepting it. |
Edited by - bread man on 23 May 2007 15:35:03 |
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bread man
300 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2007 : 23:03:55
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| Put a petition for a referandum for the constitution to be amended to suit that purpose, I will surely vote in favour of putting a specific term for the presidency. In the meantime our dear constitution does not accommodate that factor, and I respect and honour my constitution. Yes, Karl did well by saying it all. |
It is the mark of intelligence to entertain an idea without accepting it. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2007 : 23:36:52
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| To prove that Yahya Jammeh is utterly insincere, he had the filthy guts to delete the term and age limits just to suit his selfish evil desire as he now prevails. For such a man, whatever else he comes to do rests on the very selfish grounds on which he settles. Do you see where we are heading with all the insincerity ? What is there to show that a man who came to power by force, twisted the constitution, blocked opposition parties, killed children, will ever polish up to decent and fair play? The more you try to build what this regime and Jammeh stand for, the more you will appreciate why the urgency for change. such change is not about change of LEADERSHIP or LEADER. It is about systemic change. That again has nothing to do with Dr Yahya or Dr Dawda Jawara. Keep the personality out of sight so that you see clearly. |
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Edited by - Karamba on 22 May 2007 23:59:43 |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2007 : 23:36:52
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| To prove that Yahya Jammeh is utterly insincere, he had the filthy guts to delete the term and age limits just to suit his selfish evil desire as he now prevails. For such a man, whatever else he comes to do rests on the very selfish grounds on which he settles. Do you see where we are heading with all the insincerity ? What is there to show that a man who came to power by force, twisted the constitution, blocked opposition parties, killed children, will ever polish up to decent and fair play? The more you try to build what this regime and Jammeh stand for, the more you will appreciate why the urgency for change. such change is not about change of LEADERSHIP or LEADER. It is about systemic change. That again has nothing to do with Dr Yahya or Dr Dawda Jawara. Keep the personality out of sight so that you see clearly. |
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salimina
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Posted - 22 May 2007 : 23:50:05
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Bread-man,
I like your stance as a democrat.But my worry is someone who kills just to defend his five year term would be willing to allow referendum in his country( jammeh kunda). |
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salimina
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Posted - 22 May 2007 : 23:50:05
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Bread-man,
I like your stance as a democrat.But my worry is someone who kills just to defend his five year term would be willing to allow referendum in his country( jammeh kunda). |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 22 May 2007 : 23:52:43
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| karamba , eventhough i am very tired i can clearly understand the issue you where raising here .the issue is about term limit not about yahya .so we need a clear set of term limit not an hunty dumty style of perpetual leadership so long as the military gerenals are in the pocket of the leader it goes on and on untill he need help to go to the loo . |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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Santanfara
3460 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2007 : 23:52:43
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| karamba , eventhough i am very tired i can clearly understand the issue you where raising here .the issue is about term limit not about yahya .so we need a clear set of term limit not an hunty dumty style of perpetual leadership so long as the military gerenals are in the pocket of the leader it goes on and on untill he need help to go to the loo . |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
www.suntoumana.blogspot.com |
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