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Karamba



United Kingdom
3820 Posts

Posted - 04 Apr 2007 :  22:59:18  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message

President Jammeh is engaged in full blown private business. One example is the Youth Enterprise business. According what president Jammeh declared as reason for jailing Baba Jobe, it was about why Jobe mismanaged the Youth Enterprise. Jammeh clearly stated that the Youth Enterprise is his own creation. There are queries that president Jammeh is not paying tax for businesses he engages in. What do you think are the wider implications where a president engages in private business, does not pay tax, and his income is not declared? Is this fair trade ?

Karamba

Momodou



Denmark
11835 Posts

Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  00:57:59  Show Profile Send Momodou a Private Message
Karamba, we know of the Youth Enterprise business after his own boasting about owning it but does he really own other businesses? Does the Gambian Constitution not state clearly that the president can only engage in Agriculture?

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Momodou



Denmark
11835 Posts

Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  00:57:59  Show Profile Send Momodou a Private Message
Karamba, we know of the Youth Enterprise business after his own boasting about owning it but does he really own other businesses? Does the Gambian Constitution not state clearly that the president can only engage in Agriculture?

A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone
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Alhassan

Sweden
813 Posts

Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  08:20:46  Show Profile Send Alhassan a Private Message
Modou,
Was the Constitution not revived to suit the politicians so as to start doing private buisness? I red a suggestion from one minister before the elections about this issue. I do not know if I am correct. Is there anybody else on bantaba who can remember?
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Alhassan

Sweden
813 Posts

Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  08:20:46  Show Profile Send Alhassan a Private Message
Modou,
Was the Constitution not revived to suit the politicians so as to start doing private buisness? I red a suggestion from one minister before the elections about this issue. I do not know if I am correct. Is there anybody else on bantaba who can remember?
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Karamba



United Kingdom
3820 Posts

Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  17:34:39  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message

Alhassan,

About whether the Gambian Constitution permits politicians to engage in private business, that is good question. It has been the case with civil servants that could only do business where it does not conflict with official duties. This has been grossly abused by some public servants. In Gambia of today, expect the constitution to be quite soft and generous about public servants in private business. In the past as well, some public servants in state enterprises have gone half way and pulled out of public business just to start their private businesses. Corruption manifests in various forms. Even if Gambian constitution permits a president to engage in private business, that is not fair trade with other competitors who pay all their dues with no tax concession. Situations are subject to individual view points.

Karamba
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Karamba



United Kingdom
3820 Posts

Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  17:34:39  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message

Alhassan,

About whether the Gambian Constitution permits politicians to engage in private business, that is good question. It has been the case with civil servants that could only do business where it does not conflict with official duties. This has been grossly abused by some public servants. In Gambia of today, expect the constitution to be quite soft and generous about public servants in private business. In the past as well, some public servants in state enterprises have gone half way and pulled out of public business just to start their private businesses. Corruption manifests in various forms. Even if Gambian constitution permits a president to engage in private business, that is not fair trade with other competitors who pay all their dues with no tax concession. Situations are subject to individual view points.

Karamba
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Santanfara



3460 Posts

Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  17:49:11  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
karamba , may be you forgot about one thing. yaya is gambia and gambia is yaya. any thing he feels like he can go about doing it ,the man don't even think about the constitution let alone cares about it. the rampant arrest of innocent people for no good reasons alone tells a lot about the lunatic. i know a man who was working in the youth enterprise ,i will ask him the question as to who owns the businesss.

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

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Santanfara



3460 Posts

Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  17:49:11  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
karamba , may be you forgot about one thing. yaya is gambia and gambia is yaya. any thing he feels like he can go about doing it ,the man don't even think about the constitution let alone cares about it. the rampant arrest of innocent people for no good reasons alone tells a lot about the lunatic. i know a man who was working in the youth enterprise ,i will ask him the question as to who owns the businesss.

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

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bread man



300 Posts

Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  18:42:13  Show Profile Send bread man a Private Message
The YDE was sponsored by the H.E. to empower youhts in The gambia, and it did until there was a scuffle between various APRC ministers and Baba Jobe. The intention were not to profit himself but to put the profits back to empowering youths. I do not know any other business he is directly or indirectly involved in except those in speculations.

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bread man



300 Posts

Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  18:42:13  Show Profile Send bread man a Private Message
The YDE was sponsored by the H.E. to empower youhts in The gambia, and it did until there was a scuffle between various APRC ministers and Baba Jobe. The intention were not to profit himself but to put the profits back to empowering youths. I do not know any other business he is directly or indirectly involved in except those in speculations.

It is the mark of intelligence to entertain an idea without accepting it.
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Karamba



United Kingdom
3820 Posts

Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  18:44:52  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message

It runs like the Gambian Constitution is an open book where the whims and caprices of Jammeh are recorded as law. When Jammeh acts, his actions are recorded as law. When he steals, stealing by the president becomes legal. When he tells lies, those lies are bound up as part of the rules etc, etc. He is utterly deluded. This is serious for Gambia. Listen to Jammeh fuming on the whole justice system as being corrupt and dyfunctional!! Who is it that dictates laws in Gambia ? Jammeh is materially twisted. He blames things he is doing so that people get faked. It is like the head monkey having full cheeks with wild fruits and warning other monkeys not to eat of it. Chei Jammeh !!

Karamba
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Karamba



United Kingdom
3820 Posts

Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  18:44:52  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message

It runs like the Gambian Constitution is an open book where the whims and caprices of Jammeh are recorded as law. When Jammeh acts, his actions are recorded as law. When he steals, stealing by the president becomes legal. When he tells lies, those lies are bound up as part of the rules etc, etc. He is utterly deluded. This is serious for Gambia. Listen to Jammeh fuming on the whole justice system as being corrupt and dyfunctional!! Who is it that dictates laws in Gambia ? Jammeh is materially twisted. He blames things he is doing so that people get faked. It is like the head monkey having full cheeks with wild fruits and warning other monkeys not to eat of it. Chei Jammeh !!

Karamba
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MADIBA



United Kingdom
1275 Posts

Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  18:57:56  Show Profile Send MADIBA a Private Message
The President and politicians can pertake in business if sanctioned by the laws of the land. BUt they or their employees should never be allowed to evade taxes and take advantage over other buisness by virtue of their positions. With regards to YDE or Kanilai farms i think the president had good intentions when he started them. Some people misused the initiatives(YDE) to their advantage. With regards to Kanilai farm produce, they were meant to stabilise the market of food stuff. It was disheartening to see how some Gambian market women bought these produces at the Maccarthy square(22nd July sq) just to triple the prices shamelessy swearing that they bought them over from senegal.

Karamba your above quotation is pathetic. Do you mean Gambians have no brains and Jammeh is more intelligent and whatever he desires happens? Coomon my good brother take a re-look at what you authored.

Who make the laws in The Gambia? Are they that daft or cowardly that when Jammeh says anything they accept. If that's the case then we should be sorry for ourselves. How can one man defy a whole nation?

madiss

Edited by - MADIBA on 06 Apr 2007 00:18:20
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MADIBA



United Kingdom
1275 Posts

Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  18:57:56  Show Profile Send MADIBA a Private Message
The President and politicians can pertake in business if sanctioned by the laws of the land. BUt they or their employees should never be allowed to evade taxes and take advantage over other buisness by virtue of their positions. With regards to YDE or Kanilai farms i think the president had good intentions when he started them. Some people misused the initiatives(YDE) to their advantage. With regards to Kanilai farm produce, they were meant to stabilise the market of food stuff. It was disheartening to see how some Gambian market women bought these produces at the Maccarthy square(22nd July sq) just to triple the prices shamelessy swearing that they bought them over from senegal.

Karamba your above quotation is pathetic. Do you mean Gambians have no brains and Jammeh is more intelligent and whatever he desires happens? Coomon my good brother take a re-look at what you authored.

Who make the laws in The Gambia? Are they that daft or cowardly that when Jammeh says anything they accept. If that's the case then we should be sorry for ourselves. How can one man defy a whole nation?

madiss

Edited by - MADIBA on 06 Apr 2007 00:18:20
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Karamba



United Kingdom
3820 Posts

Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  20:45:13  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message

Madiba,

Like it or not, Jammeh stands the supreme dictator of Gambian Laws. Can you think SERIOUSLY otherwise. It is not my wish to state that. It is the indistructible fact. I cannot do anything about it. The mere mention of that fact is only a drop in the ocean. Where nobody mentions it, JAMMEH IS STILL EVERYTHING in Gambia. C'mon Madida, is this the first time you ever come to get the information that Jammeh is the sole dictator of Gambian Laws? I am surprised that you posed surprised about a mere mention of this. In very bold stance, I remain firm that Jammeh is treating every GambiaN like dummies and zombies. This is D Truth.

About the Youth Enterprise and Kanilai Farms, you seem to have much knowledge about. You will be seen kind enough to share more on that. What curious observation reveals is that Jammeh takes Gambians for a ride by initiating bogus schemes in the name of youth, women, students, peace, name it. None of it is genuine. It is all politically motivated. The extent to which even clever Gambians come to believe that Jammeh is serving public interest by those bogus schemes is the SOLE PROOF that he is scoring on even the best of brains.People of Gambia may be seen POOR. Yet they are not CRAZY. "Na Poor we poor, we no craze wo."

Karamba
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