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Redeemer
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 Posted - 19 Feb 2006 : 01:47:20
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Politicians could easily change colours like a chameleon, thats is unfortunately the way they go round us.I find it hard to believe that a seasonable politician like Hamat Bah is continously lobbying for the release of former APRC Political heavy weight mr Baba Jobe all in the name of national recouncilation.Give us a break mr Bah, have you forgotten that this a man who aided and abaited torture on opposition sympatheisers with impunity.Under his watch the then july 22nd movement inflicted gorrelea warfare on the opposition, so what recouncilation gesture are you talking about.Baba jobe is a political criminal and he is better of behind lock and key than breathing freedom.Baba presided over the worst human rights abuses in the political history of our country and his continous incarceration is perhaps a wake up call for the ruling clique in Banjul.
I know when politicians are in opposition they tend to use all tactics to grab power but for the heaven sake stop lobbying for Baba Jobes release as it is very unprincipled and it does not match up with your partys stance on human rights and the rule of law.This is an insult to all the victims of Baba jobe torture , who up to date are affected physiocologically in one way or the other by terrorist babas heavy handedness.Mr Bah you cannot be castigating Jammehs human rights record on one hand and at the same time calling for the release of a thug and a criminal like Baba jobe, that is very unconvincing and sherd opportunism.Leave the man to rut in prison as that is what he has sown to harvest.Finally I urge you to retract from your statement and appologise to all the victims of Baba jobes torture.I rest my case.
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BornAfrican
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Feb 2006 : 02:05:40
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surely u are a redeemer. this kinda hypocricy tells us why such leaders broke away from NADD. The are not intrested in anything good for the Gambia, but their own healthy bank accounts elsewhere in the world. They are nothing but political crooks.
I only wish Baba had gone to jail for crimes he has committed against my brothers and sisters back home. Its all the same, thanks he is in jail. I hope he will use those cold, pitch dark and lonely nights to reminisce over his arrogance towards all of us in the days when he thought he was a co-ruler of the Gambia. The right place for that man is jail. Shame on Hamat for lobbying his release in the name of reconciliation.
Believe me, Hamat and Darboe are nothing but political mistakes. |
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somita
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Feb 2006 : 13:18:53
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Hamat is the most inconsistent politician The Gambia has ever had in moderm history. This guy stance for everything, where else in the world will such characters survive politically?
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
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Posted - 19 Feb 2006 : 22:57:56
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Hi brothers,
Thanks 4 your comments. I am a human right activist and a victim of Baba Jobe's brutal inhuman treatment of his fellow country men and women.
Baba could be in jail I have no problem with that (because the man was an animal).But as my service to mankind includes him,I don't agree that he should be in prison as claimed by his Boss.He was wrongly convicted.But now that he is down to where he used to send people,I hope he could reflect on his crimes against humanity and repentI cannot speach 4 the other victims but I am ready to forgive him if he comes to his sences and appologised to us.I was with the hope that one day all those who commits crimes against humanity would be brought to book for their crimes,so that it would serve as a rehabilitating remedy into humanityand a deterant 4 others 4rom comitting the same crimes.
We still have savages and animals at home(despite Baba being incarnated) who only toture 4 pleasure or to please their bosses.I wish I could show you my marks.But all that is history.Thats why God made me Human and not a donkey---So that I can reflect and reason so as to be able to forgive--as HE (The Mighty)forgives.
I still believe that he(Babajobe) was wrongly convicted and should not be in prison 4 the crimes he was alledged to have comitted.--There are more worst crimes comitted by Him and those behind him.Such crimes should put him behind bars so that he can think about them and may be repent but ---Economic crimes?What? My God. Wer all know Jammeh is Jammeh--He can because of his interest release Baba Jobe from prison to continue his incolgating of fear into the Gambians.But if he goes down for crimes against humanity,that will evolute him and others below him from animal to human.
Peace and love
God bless the Gambia
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Redeemer
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Feb 2006 : 23:59:21
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Janfaraya:well am not arguing whether mr Jobe was righthly or wrongly convicted that is a long story to debate, but am critising Hamat Bah for his double standards in mr Jobes incarceration.When baba was on the ramapage it was the very Hamat and his colleagues criticising his terroism and now that he is behind bars the same Hamat pleading for his released is that not a complete departure from your campaign to see terror free Gambia.I got a god feeling that Mr Bah thinks free baba would join them and eventually woe votes for them.well as far as am concern that is very unprincipled and opportunistic way of swaying votes to your side.My message to Hamat is that we the jarrankas are better of with Baba in jail.He has inflicted a reign of terror in Jarra itself so this thug has no place in any democratic political setting.
Mr Bah when you are in opposition it does not mean you have to seek cheap popularity to get to government but you have to stick onto your values and principles and present your party as if it is ready to takeover government tomorrow.Pleading for the release for a thug and a criminal would not help in that direction instead you offending the very people who had suffered in the hands of the terror leader.Mr Bah I Rate your intelligence to be higher than this cheap way of politicking. |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 Feb 2006 : 00:34:53
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Janyanfara...I am interested to hear that your are a human rights activist. Are you in exile in uk or studying? Will you ever be safe to return to your homeland?
I am very concerned with a very basic human right of Gambians, which is to walk freely on the beach. Alot of Gambians make their living in one way or another through the tourists. I have been told that the security are now very heavy handed and often take them away for torture and then later releases them without charge. The result is people are afraid to come to the beach and therefore they are struggling to feed their family.
Can you still campaign from your uk base? or is that difficult? Could you write newspaper articles?
You have my respect 100%. To be a human rights activist in The Gambia you have to be a very brave and committed person. What drives you to be so strong? I would LOVE to see the working man/women in The Gambia unionised...then perhaps the lot of ordinary Gambians might start to improve. |
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BornAfrican
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 Feb 2006 : 02:28:51
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Mankajang,
i disagree with you on the fact that Baba was wrongly accused and jailed. I would agree with the fact that he was put behind bars by someone people don't trust (i.e. Yaya Jammeh). I don't think you have convinced me that Baba did not commit economic crimes (which he went to jail for). Baba was one hell of a poor man. All of a sudden, he became the new Babanding Sissoko of the Gambia.
Baba was corrupt in all ways. He abbused power, looted our coffers and in the end whipped us like donkeys. Mark Anthony said that the evil that men do live after them. Baba is being punished not by Yaya, but by faith. The best place for him is where he is. I can't forgive such people. He is one of those Africans who knew the evil they were doing, but because he had everything at his disposal, he decided to enslave his own people. His crime was treason and is punishable by death anywhere in the world. I wish we as Africans can see such brute African leaders walking to the gallows. Mankajang, i respect the fact that you are a human right activist, but how about all those thousands of African children dying daily only because of brute leaders like Baba Jobe.
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taalibeh
Gambia
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Posted - 20 Feb 2006 : 18:05:01
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You see Redeemer, this is the problem with politicians,not only in the Gambia but the whole world. It is,I belief worst in our country though. In my opinion, Hamat should have been calling for Baba Jobe to be sent to the UN tribunal to face charges of weopons dealing with the Librian rebels.
A lot of people I discuss politics with hold the view that Hamat Bah is not a serious politician and statements like this only reinforce the doubters views. He needed to be critically assess the impact of such political miscalculations. It is very absurd and paradoxical to be crying about government's tolarance towards Baba's violations of the law and at the same time asking for his release from prison after he had been convicted and imprisoned.
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
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Posted - 21 Feb 2006 : 02:05:05
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Well said! my brothers,
I am not in dispute with your comments. (Mbadin,Redeemer),Iam also Jarranka,Gambian,African and world human right activist(A Man of Justice).Yes Hamat Bah should shot up 4 he knows what had happened and should not use the Baba jobe case for political gains I agree
.Why did he not shout against the unfair judgement when he was a parliamentarian?Was he thinking of the 100,000 Baba lent him do you know? You see my brother,all politicians are hypocretes.Thats why I stopped trying to become a politician b4 I become like them.
But you see I was at the very court from dayone till the sentensing.My brothers,... Baba has maybe done more harm to me that some of you.Maybe he might have done worst to some of your relatives.But the truth is I believe in justice.I really wanted Baba to be brought to justice 4 crimes against humanity. but not 4 alledged economic crimes.
Brother BornAfrican,...My reasons are:
(1) If yaya claimed to have owned the Youths Development enterprise,and have given Baba some morney to put up the business,Who then was Baba to have shipped all those rice to Banjul through ports without paying a single butut.Where was Yaya then?
(2)Even if transparency was to take it course,what where the ports officials doing about Baba's failure to pay those bills?Who reported him at that time?if not why didn't they report him even if it will cost them their job?Maybe if the truths come out oneday,they could be reinstated in to the job with their honour.
(3)Why was there no one to cercrifice to tell the truth and save the country?were they all working 4 their pockets and not 4 the country?
(4) 'The Morney shop'--- was owned by who?Why was Baba lending 100s of thousands to all our parliamentarians as credits and none of the voted MPS could have realised where he gets those mornies from or even asked?Why was everyone praising him?
My brothers why was the president predicting the outcome of the case even b4 the judge(M.A. Paul) could hear the case? Was it decided between Him and the Judge that Baba should be sent down 4 10 years?If so who was the catual judge?Paul or Yaya?
If not so why didn't Paul witdrew in protest as an impartial judge should do?
Was this not a mockery of our judicial system?
All Brutal dictators and leaders should face justice against crimes they committed.No doubt about that.But it has to be done through the right way to see justice taken its cause.
We have to understand that evry day we sin against GOD,but HE did not send us seven feet deep as Yaya Jammeh always swore he will do to his oponents?No He will call us to account.
Every body has a right to a fair trial.Even our FATHER ADAM was called open by Gad to answer to the charges of having eaten the forbidden fruit b4 he being expelled from Heaven down to Earth.
I honestly wanted Baba pay 4 his crimes but not through injustices .I was Baba's victim, but still those ordered by Baba to beat and toture Gambians are still in varrious state service and still more brutal even after their master went down.Have you seen women being stripped naked and tramped on their female parts?Have you seen people being hit on the head with iron bars?Oh my God don't make me talk.I am human but unles we treat our beasts back home in a humanely manner,we shall be beasts like them.
Remember Nelson Mandella(Madiba).He forgave because he was Human.
Brother Gambiabev,
NO am not in exile, am a student studying law.The British Emabsy refused to grant me political asylum.I had tried on many occations to no success.I had to apply for studies and got entry as a student.
Yes I still write to the news papers and shall continue till democracy is restured.I go to the Gambia stilL.Its the only place I Love and have. I want HER to be just like the United Kingdom or AMERICA Ect. By God's grace,I will continue to serve my people Many people are still suffering there.They need us and I cannot forsake them because of few.... no way.
The answer to your second question is no one is safe in the Gambia expacially when you come here and keep writting about undemocratic activities in the Gambia.But the real question is if we all leave the Gambia,who will speak 4 the defenceless victims?
You should see those unemployed youths being kicked like football by the army or taken to the military barracks to do the soldiers washings or clean the beach site.I was once taken despite I told them I was working 4 one of the Hotels,One of the officers said to me ...'Mr... we know you are working but we have our orders you must go.I was taken but luckily I was noticed by one senior man who said to them set thatman free I know he works 4 .... hotel.One of them kicked me and asked me to go He said to me 'I know you you are opposition and that was why you were rude to our boss picked you up next time,you will wish you were not born..' I was then freed with no fare to go to work.
Oh God would not forsake the Gambia.
God bless the Ganbia & you all
Peace and Love
Mankajang Janyanfara.
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