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Galo Sowe
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 Posted - 13 Feb 2007 : 15:09:53
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Originally posted by Cornelius
If either you Mbay or Galo or any other single one of you would like me to quit Bantaba in Cyberspace I will do so. All you have to do is to send a posting saying : QUIT . You could do so now under any name.
There are other interesting places in cyberspace.
Q U I T! If you can't stop equating my religion with terrorism. |
"Soldiers are experts at camouflage but that is on the battle field not the political one, were transparency is the watch word" Kaaniba |
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Cornelius
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Posted - 13 Feb 2007 : 20:37:32
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I was at Imam Saidu Taal’s masjid this afternoon at 11.50. I was hoping to meet al-Hassan.
They prayed the Zuhr namaz which started soon after the Azan at 12.03
Can’t you please quit this idle type of chatter? What do you take me for, your inarticulate fullah boy-boy or your stupid little house Negro?
I have too much respect for Muhammadu Buhari, to be either.
http://www.google.se/search?hl=sv&q=Muhammadu++Buhari&btnG=S%C3%B6k&meta=
I am not taking any orders from you.
I have never equated “your religion” with terrorism.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Terrorism&meta=
I have talked to some very radical Muslim men and women – from Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, Israel, Egypt, Tunisia, Jordan, Jamaica, Iraq, US, UK who don’t sink to the playground level of not being serious with me or with themselves when the hour is late and your Ummah is being sliced. After the eight year war between Iran and and Iraq which killed 1,500,000 Muslims and put Saddam some $87 billion in debt, today we have more Muslims fighting and killing other Muslims ( mostly civilians)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6352181.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6356781.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6356271.stm
Try to understand even if you show all the signs of being a little slow in understanding simple things.
I have never equated ”your religion" - or way of life, with terrorism and you are not about to get into any interesting or uninteresting/ boring discussion with me about a shop soiled subject.
It is not your religion in action in Darfur and in Iraq and there is no eqauting Palestinian suicide bombers or Osama bin Ladin with Islam.
I understand the difference between you (a Muslim) and the reality (al Haqq). I also understand the difference between you (Galo) or even your Gambian brother charged with terrorism, Basiru Gassama and Islam.
Some years ago, along with my Gambian friend and Mr. Lamin Siddiqi the former Sierra Leone minister of the Interior I attended a lecture given by a Harvard professor from Syria who is an "expert " on terrorism ( but not a practitioner) at the Utrikespolitiska Institutet in Gamla stan, Stockholm.
http://www.nira.go.jp/ice/nwdtt/2005/DAT/1294.html
Not long after that we also attended a lecture by AZIZ al-AZMEH who had been invited by an Iranian women's organisation and he talked. He CAN talk. Now there's nothing I have said or would say that would make either gentleman tell me what you are telling me. ( Well, Azmeh said that Jerusalem was " on Arab land."
The euphemisms and new categories “Militant Islam” “Radical Islam” are for you - not me - to lecture about.
We all read the papers and we all read books, talk to people, exchange ideas, attend lectures, seminars, discussions, conferences and know what we are talking about.
Those who behave like terrorists are terrorists - that's what I say. I also say that I don't get into certain types of discussions with those who are poorly informed and are ill-equipped to discuss let alone debate certain other issues. About "debating" - just forget it - I have not done my homework.
About Jerusalem, my perspectives are mostly from this kind of source and at the same time being cognisant of the main Muslim positions. That’s what BALANCE is all about. Perspective is just a word that can even represent/ misrepresent other forms of hooliganism.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=DORE+GOLD&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
No point in getting excited just because of someone being diametrically opposed to someone else. I have just read the advice from the goodly Dr. Thomas and suggest that you read and understand that too:
http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3053
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Edited by - Cornelius on 13 Feb 2007 23:32:10 |
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Cornelius
Sweden
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Posted - 13 Feb 2007 : 23:45:11
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Originally posted by Galo Sowe
quote:
Originally posted by Cornelius
In time the terrorist might demand that US become an Islamic state and that Barack convert -or else, no more diplomacy.
Mr. C is saying, Muslims = Terorrists
Very sincerely speaking Galo, there are no Muslims who are terrorists and no terrorists who are Muslims.
Lets hope that when your best friends leave Iraq it will be all peace and tranquility in that country.
If you can try to be here on Thursday:
http://www.ui.se/defaultE.aspx
http://www.google.se/search?sourceid=navclient-menuext&ie=UTF-8&q=Dr%2e+Rohan+Gunaratna |
Edited by - Cornelius on 14 Feb 2007 00:00:46 |
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Dalton1
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Posted - 13 Feb 2007 : 23:56:21
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Originally posted by Cornelius
Very sincerely speaking Galo, there are no Muslims who are terrorists and no terrorists who are Muslims.
Lets hope that when your best friends leave Iraq it will be all peace and tranquility in that country.
Mawdo Cornelius,
Do you actually read all these links you provide? Just wondering!
Sometimes it complicates my reading of your pieces, as i cannot differentiate your own opinion, the links and the point you are trying to balance out. just a feedback bro.
Don't go please! Both Galo & Mbay are fine bantaba characters. I haven't seen your old friend, Serene, for a long time. her quiting came after a message she posted for admin. I personally think people can take a break, but should be sincere not to leave for good. Leaving for good is like dying.
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"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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Cornelius
Sweden
1051 Posts |
Posted - 14 Feb 2007 : 00:27:45
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Originally posted by Dalton1
Mawdo Cornelius,
Do you actually read all these links you provide? Just wondering!
Sometimes it complicates my reading of your pieces, as i cannot differentiate your own opinion, the links and the point you are trying to balance out. just a feedback bro.
Don't go please! Both Galo & Mbay are fine bantaba characters. I haven't seen your old friend, Serene, for a long time. her quiting came after a message she posted for admin. I personally think people can take a break, but should be sincere not to leave for God. Leavinf for good is like dying.
Dalton,
IRAQ!
I am not your average illiterate and I do not read at 2km per hour.
The links are the links ( I have read the subject areas of course and I didn’t begin studying these matters yesterday but you are not supposed to be under any inner compulsion or from me to pursue 666 links even if you have such time at your disposal.
The links are the links and my words are my opinion. I hope that you can distinguish the difference between me and any link and NB: I think for myself. It is not Obama or Saddam who do my thinking for me. I must listen - even to you, and judge for myself.
What am I supposed to do about your problem which is that you cannot differentiate between my own opinion and "the links" and the point you think that I am "trying to balance out”?
How do you separate my "Opinion" from ”the point" that you think that I am ”trying to balance out"?
I am against all forms of terrorism - that is my position about terrorism and you should read all positions critically even if you may be more inclined to turning the other cheek when in my opinion you shouldn't.
Since I am not an authority on anything, and certainly not on terrorism or Islamism (as Aziz al- Azmeh terms a certain feature of the din) or terrorism) you should simply ignore the links and disembowel what I say - as you will.
Terrorism is the use of violence on civilian targets to achieve political goals..... That’s apart definition.
If terrorism ever came to the Gambia, I'm sure you wouldn't like it.
If that Germ has indeed left ”for God" or for good, I sincerely hope that she is having a good time and meeting with her other innocent sisters and some of those suicide bombers up there in Paradise. I'm sure that none of the martyrs of the Holocaust will be rubbing noses with those shahids.
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Dalton1
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Posted - 14 Feb 2007 : 00:37:54
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Originally posted by Cornelius
Dalton,
IRAQ!
I am not your average illiterate and I do not read at 2km per hour.
The links are the links ( I have read the subject areas of course and I didn?t begin studying these matters yesterday but you are not supposed to be under any inner compulsion or from me to pursue 666 links even if you have such time at your disposal.
The links are the links and my words are my opinion. I hope that you can distinguish the difference between me and any link and NB: I think for myself. It is not Obama or Saddam who do my thinking for me. I must listen - even to you, and judge for myself.
What am I supposed to do about your problem which is that you cannot differentiate between my own opinion and "the links" and the point you think that I am "trying to balance out??
How do you separate my "Opinion" from ?the point" that you think that I am ?trying to balance out"?
I am against all forms of terrorism - that is my position about terrorism and you should read all positions critically even if you may be more inclined to turning the other cheek when in my opinion you shouldn't.
Since I am not an authority on anything, and certainly not on terrorism or Islamism (as Aziz al- Azmeh terms a certain feature of the din) or terrorism) you should simply ignore the links and disembowel what I say - as you will.
Terrorism is the use of violence on civilian targets to achieve political goals..... That?s apart definition.
If terrorism ever came to the Gambia, I'm sure you wouldn't like it.
If that Germ has indeed left ?for God" or for good, I sincerely hope that she is having a good time and meeting with her other innocent sisters and some of those suicide bombers up there in Paradise. I'm sure that none of the martyrs of the Holocaust will be rubbing noses with those shahids.
Thanks Uncle Corne.
It sound like corn-bread, but i rather not have you for dinner. Keep being sweet!
I very well respect your opinion always. Personally, i think you are vibrant fellow, a man in your own style. What i said was just a feedback to your postings.
Have a great day uncle Corne. |
"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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Cornelius
Sweden
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Posted - 14 Feb 2007 : 00:56:03
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Guru Dalton ( Gu= who remove darkness and ru = reveals the light)
Cornbread has revised some of what he
said:
Dalton,
IQRA!
I am not your average illiterate and I do not read at 2km per hour.
The links are the links ( I have read the subject areas of course and I didn’t begin studying these matters yesterday but you are not supposed to be under any inner compulsion or from me to pursue 666 links even if you have such time at your disposal.
The links are supposed to give a clearer or more informed picture, and some of the contradicting points of view within the links (say the first two pages of links) should raise our critical approach. There's a lot of propaganda even in the Encyclopaedia Britannica.
The links are the links and my words are my opinion. I hope that you can distinguish the difference between me and any link and NB: I think for myself. It is not Obama or Saddam who do my thinking for me. I must listen - even to you, and judge for myself.
Sometimes the links e.g. of Dore Gold or Professor Paul Eidelberg provide a partial basis of my opinion - but my own opinions derive from my own moral sense and my own common sense applied to the diverse sources of information and insight. (If you read Nahjul Balagha a dozen times you might start casting your thoughts in those forms) About Jerusalem, for example I have considered both the Jewish and Islamic responses. Of course the deeper you get into Jewish history the more you get to understand the significance of the Jewish people. My friend Farid from Morocco says that of course TORAH is my best company because I have now he says, been possessed by a Jewish Jinn who derives very great personal pleasure and satisfaction by getting me to study TORAH.
What am I supposed to do about your problem which is that you cannot differentiate between my own opinion and "the links" and the point you think that I am "trying to balance out”?
How do you separate my "Opinion" from ”the point" that you think that I am ”trying to balance out"? If I understand you correctly - there is an occasional difficulty that I experience if I am not talking to only one specific person (which I never do) but on the whole opinions and ideas can be more complex and simple and so can a struggle to arrive at balance or harmony or synthesis or even justice or whatever name you give to the sincerity/ humanity we strive for in serving the Almighty.
I am against all forms of terrorism - that is my position about terrorism and you should read all positions critically even if you may be more inclined to turning the other cheek when in my opinion you shouldn't.
Since I am not an authority on anything, and certainly not on terrorism or Islamism (as Aziz al- Azmeh terms a certain feature of the din) or terrorism) you should simply ignore the links and disembowel what I say - as you will.
Terrorism is the use of violence on civilian targets to achieve political goals..... That’s apart definition.
If terrorism ever came to the Gambia, I'm sure you wouldn't like it.
If that Germ has indeed left ”for God" or for good, I sincerely hope that she is having a good time and meeting with her other innocent sisters and some of those suicide bombers up there in Paradise. I'm sure that none of the martyrs of the Holocaust will be rubbing noses with those shahids.
PS You should see the hundreds of BOOKMARKS that are lodged in this computer.
Isn’t it wonderful that we can send a link to a readable book like this one?
http://www.al-sunnah.com/call_to_islam/quran/pickthall/
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Cornelius
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1051 Posts |
Posted - 22 Feb 2007 : 04:16:42
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Obama's main platform is to garner support for the US to desert the Iraq war
as quickly as is possible.
Isn't it a little too early to estimate/calculate/promise 31.3.2008 as a
final withdrawal date?
Everyone, especially those in desperate haste know that US troop withdrawal from the current level of its stabilising presence has to depend on and be in sync with a vastly improved security apparatus firmly in place in a more secure Iraq. Withdrawal - absolutely - depends on the the security status of Iraq. If the US doesn’t ”hand over" to a capable Iraqi Security force, then instead of stability and security, some neighbouring countries, hungry to go in and play their vital part in the struggle, will go in - and if no one can stop them, they will not fail to rise to the occasion and fill the vacuum created on the two main sides ( neither or none of whom are Republican or Democrat) taking the road of bombs and unto
perdition.
Nowadays, professor Barack Hussein Obama is not alone in his camp; there is also what is called:
http://www.israpundit.com/2006/?p=4033#comments |
Edited by - Cornelius on 22 Feb 2007 04:30:06 |
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Cornelius
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Cornelius
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Posted - 03 Mar 2007 : 18:34:56
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Obama the Chicago man talking:
“Barack Obama reveals strongly pro-Israel platform: US must preserve ‘total commitment to unique defense relationship with Israel’, work to stop Iran’s nuclear program even if military action is necessary”
http://www.israpundit.com/2006/?p=4101#comments
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