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kondorong
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 Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 19:19:56
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| I dont think i need to belabour on this. Certainly in Yoro Bawol we have no electricity or cars so why worry about a fuel depot. |
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 19:35:05
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Originally posted by kondorong
I dont think i need to belabour on this. Certainly in Yoro Bawol we have no electricity or cars so why worry about a fuel depot.
it is not about 'belabouring'. its about not misleading people. you made a statement that is not true. if you know the legislation state it. the depot in half-die is owned by SHELL and the ones at the airport by SHELL and TOTALFINA ELF. in half-die before SHELL i think it was owned by UAC, some of the older member of the bantaba can verify this.
there is no legislation that gave anyone monopolgy in this. we as a nation are not that stupid to enact laws that give foreign companies monopolies, maybe in Yoro Bawol you entertain such thoughts but in the rest of The Gambia we dont.
its about the truth and FACTS. your statement was wrong. nothing more. |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 20:04:37
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Yes you win and i hope that makes you happy. We dont need old Bantaba memebers to know the truth. There is a monopoly regarding fuel storage. What you see on the ground is not what you get.
Like i said, i dont want to belabour on this. |
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LEMON TIME
Afghanistan
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 21:47:28
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There is no god but Allah |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 21:47:58
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This statement from the United nations Environment Programme report on Gambia in March 2005 at the Kairaba Beach hotel confirms shell as a Monopoly regarding fuel storage. I could not paste it.
"Shell Marketing owns and controls the sole bulk storage depot in the country. This oligopolistic position gives Shell an advantage over the other players and Government has been trying over the years, to relocate the depot outside Banjul on a shared ownership basis
through a Public Private Partnership, to ensure equal access to the storage facilities but without the necessary legal instruments this has been difficult."
Just try to set up a storage facility and you will know who controls what.
Ask for a copy of the report from UNEP and check page three of this workshop held between March 8th to the 9th 2005 at Kairaba Beach Hotel. May be UNEP is also lying about monopoly. Infcat this is a joint report of UNEP and Gambia Government. It cant be better with the Government acknowledging an oligarchy. Unless you are the Government, i rest my case.
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 21:52:37
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Originally posted by LEMON TIME
FI TAT GA NA Y,MASS BU DANK LA GUM.
Its not MASS BU DANG(tie). He has lost with the evidence above. Now its his word against the United Nations and the gambia Government both of whom acknowledge an oligarchy in fuel storage. |
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mbay
Germany
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 22:26:21
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please would you write it in Serrahouleh since you know that some of us can't read your special English.
fuel crisis this old trade with new tricks. like one company own something but go undercover .maybe something is stinking with the government.
hey lemon time why don't you milk us a little bite so that things may get easier?
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Originally posted by LEMON TIME
FI TAT GA NA Y,MASS BU DANK LA GUM.
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kiwi
Sweden
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 22:41:59
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"Shell Marketing owns and controls the sole bulk storage depot in the country. This oligopolistic position gives Shell an advantage over the other players " Quote
There is a slight difference between monopoly and oligopoly. In a monopolistic situation there is only one player, the sentence above claims that there actuallually are more players, though probably few, giving Shell an advantage. |
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 23:08:24
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Originally posted by njucks
[quote]Originally posted by kondorong
Point of correction. The fuel depot in the Gambia is a monopoly by legislation.
Just try to set up a storage facility and you will know who controls what
. i thought it would never come to this but now i have to 'belabour'. KIWI01 has infact said it all.
you dont have a case and i dont care what UN/UNEP says. what the report does is mention the 'unfair position or Advantage' that the owners of the Half-Die Depot have on the petroleum market. if there is only one depot then it is posible that 'cartel' behavior or market distortions can happen. this is different from your comment which says that this is a result of legislation, which is not true.
do not confuse FACT with FICTION. Shell is to petroleum as Gambia Experience is to the tourism market. they are not monopolies but dominant players. they are not the only ones in petroleum or tourism !!!! Gambia Experience is currently being discussed in another thread.
Monopolies can be exist with or without legislation depending on the industry. i will give you two examples.
Gambia Ports Authroity is a monopoly in the marine sector by legislation (GPA Act 1974!). this is by an act of parliament and supports your point.
GAMTEL is a monopoly not by legislation but by the fact that they have invested so much in laying out the technology and infrastruture that any one trying to compete will fail. it will be impossible for anyone to develop a parallel landline telephone network. GAMTEL is not created by an Act of Parliament but is a Ltd companies registered like any other. infact they have no right, legally to tell anyone anything in the telecomes sector.
if you follow the news in The Gambia, last year a new fuel depot was started in Mandinari.not by the Government but other private companies. you dont have to be smart to follow things. go to GOOGLE/maps and view Mandinari and you will see the Satellite pictures for yourself.
if you know the legislation that made them a monopoly quote it!! |
Edited by - njucks on 27 Nov 2006 23:10:03 |
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