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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 01 Aug 2006 : 12:33:22
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Greetings Everyone
Just a note to make those of you who are not aware that today 1st August 2006 is Emancipation Day held in rememberance or enslaved Africans who were freed throughout the British Empire in 1834.
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Sister Omega
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jambo
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Posted - 01 Aug 2006 : 14:32:06
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| thank you sister, i will remember them in my prayers. |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 01 Aug 2006 : 18:05:15
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| ever knew. Thanks for the information. |
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Dalton1
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Posted - 02 Aug 2006 : 18:38:21
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Omega, i almost missed your thread. One would have expected a longer version of this from you.
Emancipation day for any organization or nation is worth celebrating, especially that about slavely. The thing with slavely, it hurts so bad. It's an unforgiveable and unforgetable sin, but i try to be careful not to put it on the heads of the wrong/innocent ones, hense it is not bloodly inherited.
Looking forward to yours (broad version and struggle involved in it) as time permits you. Happy bilated freedom celebration to all Africans. 172 years of freedom is not 172 days of freedom. |
"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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Pappa
USA
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Posted - 02 Aug 2006 : 19:26:52
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| A great day indeed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 Aug 2006 : 20:10:40
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Emanicipation Day is a day to remember how many people who died for us to enjoy the freedom we take for granted. It is also a tribute to those who made emancipation a reality like Toussaint L'Ouverture, Nanny of The Maroons, Paul Bogle, Mary Prince, Ignatius Sancho, Olaudah Equaino and all the other African Diaspora men, women and children who resisted against the dehumanisation of the institutional chattel Slavery system. We salute and remember you having survived the greatest holocaust in history to enable your descendents to say your sufferance was not in vain for we remember your great sacrifices, and your blood still runs in our DNA.
As we remember the end of slavery we also know that there was also to a beginning of a story which started in our homelands of Africa and 35 million people died on the way to the West coast from the West Central, Southern Africa and 35 million across the Middle passage and during the breaking in seasoning processes on the plantations and we remember you all. We give thanks to the Creator for the strength courage and wisdom that enabled you to wear the mask with a smile, playing fool to catch wise, having the resistance not to give up our collective humanity keeping the fire of liberation burning through African veins from generation and conserving what African culture we had to adapt to new hostile environment. The next phase of the Struggle continues after 172 years of freedom reparation and repatriation have still not been honored. Information Knowledge, Wisdom and Understanding of African History including before during and after slavery needs to be revealed to humanity so that this story is not repeated again in Our Story.
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Edited by - Sister Omega on 02 Aug 2006 20:27:05 |
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jambo
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Posted - 02 Aug 2006 : 20:16:11
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| thank you sister omega, it is right to remember our ancestors. |
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Dalton1
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Posted - 02 Aug 2006 : 20:40:37
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Originally posted by Sister Omega
Emanicipation Day is a day to remember how many people who died for us to enjoy the freedom we take for granted. It is also a tribute to those who made emancipation a reality like Toussaint L'Ouverture, Nanny of The Maroons, Paul Bogle, Mary Prince, Ignatius Sancho, Olaudah Equaino and all the other African Diaspora men, women and children who resisted against the dehumanisation of the institutional chattel Slavery system. (Part one)
We salute and remember you having survived the greatest holocaust in history to enable your descendents to say your sufferance was not in vain for we remember your great sacrifices, and your blood still runs in our DNA. (part two)
As we remember the end of slavery we also know that there was also to a beginning of a story which started in our homelands of Africa and 35 million people died on the way to the West coast from the West Central, Southern Africa and 35 million across the Middle passage and during the breaking in seasoning processes on the plantations and we remember you all. (part three)
We give thanks to the Creator for the strength courage and wisdom that enabled you to wear the mask with a smile, playing fool to catch wise, having the resistance not to give up our collective humanity keeping the fire of liberation burning through African veins from generation and conserving what African culture we had to adapt to new hostile environment. (part four)
The next phase of the Struggle continues after 172 years of freedom reparation and repatriation have still not been honored. Information Knowledge, Wisdom and Understanding of African History including before during and after slavery needs to be revealed to humanity so that this story is not repeated again in Our Story. (part five)
Peace
Sister Omega
Excuse me for labelling your piece, just so i can easily reflect on your master piece. While part one deals with the historic part of it, part three will make any set tears even if they are not from the African community. In part four, you also talked about "..liberation burning through African veins..", which is typical Jamaican english usage-"burning" to mean the real struggle. I have heard almost all reggae singers use "fire burn, etc.." Part two shows greatfulness and appreciation, and in part five you are saying that emancipation took place but is not fully efected. A master piece ! |
"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 02 Aug 2006 : 21:50:49
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thanks S.Omega.
the trans atlantic slave trade was a major disaster and we should all learn from it. i would also like to say that it would fair to equally recognise those who spent a lot of money , time and effort fighting it including the British MP William Wilberforce amongst others.
debate about the slave trade is often limited and very complex with africans, europeans and the african diaspora each having different views on it but thanks for reminding us about it.
i have read some interesting stories some of which have a direct link with The Gambia and a story similar to that of Alex Harley. you can read more as some of them were literate to leave us with their side of the story.
http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/black_voices/voices_display.cfm?id=32 or
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayuba_Suleiman_Diallo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27Umar_Ibn_Said
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 Aug 2006 : 22:51:36
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Thanx Jambo Dalton Kondorong Pappa and Njucks for your comments and contributions. Njucks Wilberfore was not an ancestor of mine although he did dedicate a great proportion of his life to bringing the abolition of slavery on to the agenda.
It is even more important in my view that the voices of the voiceless are remembered. Next year when the commemoration for the abolition of the transtlantic Slave Trade 2007 is happening we will hear a lot about Wilberforce. However those enslaved Africans on the frontline who have not been remembered and those who suffered the dehumanisation of slavery are those who are the real Abolitionists. It was those enslaved Africans who overthrow plantation owners, burnt crops, runaways, those who brought their freedom and families freedom, those who learnt to read and write, those passed on their history, those who kept Africa alive, those who kept their dignity, those who craved freedom made it a reality to force emanicipation onto the agenda and Wilberforce picked it up lobbied hard, far and wide to change British public opinion. But let us not forget that if the British did not emancipate enslaved Africans they would of emanicipated themselves eventually because the human spirit is more powerful and cannot be bound in the chains of enquity. Hence the experiment of making human beings into commodities failed. In 1888 the last slaves worked off of the plantations in Brazil.
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03 Aug 2006 : 07:51:29
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There are still slaves today. The battle was won, the war isnt over.
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 03 Aug 2006 : 19:30:32
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There are still slaves today. The battle was won, the war isnt over.
You are being phylosophical here. can you be more explicit. |
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jambo
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Posted - 05 Aug 2006 : 12:28:22
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sister omega, njucks kons, bev, dalton, pappa and all.
Remember this, it was a trade that was flourishing and established by the time britain joined in. What are the Spanish and Portuegese doing for emancipation day. Do they have one.
Brazil is portugese, and Latin America is spanish speaking, what have they done to recognise their part in these part of history. They made a lot of money sending and selling slaves. They have a big legacy to remember. Can anyone tell me. |
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 05 Aug 2006 : 14:13:03
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well as i mentioned earlier this is an emotional thing for many people and i dont want to offend anyone. but to be truthful and honest the term holocaust is inappropiate. in a holocaust similar to genocide the ultimate result is death. this was not the case.it was a trade in human being.
there were victims, middlemen and profiteers.
furthermore we have to be specific. Slavery is a broad and historic term. what this topic refers to was the organised systematic removal of people from the African continent from the 16-19th centurty to the american continent. it was the Transatlantic Slave Trade. to try to discuss slavery in Africa,Jambo as your question implies is a debate that will never end.
i think in latin american there is a lot of mixing that most people related to some form of african ancestry in their family as well as european ancestry. since most latin american countries themselves had to fight for freedom from Europe, freedom from slavery i dont think i a major national issue. maybe i am wrong.
a major part of the slavery debate is the compensation issue. since Jews were compensated it seems logical but here it difficult to really say who was the victim and who compensates.
portugal,spain and britain all take the same stance. i think it is only france that has officially critised its passed action and has i thin they even have anational day for it.
its a difficult debate.
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Aug 2006 : 17:42:38
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Njucks, I think that the word holocaust is appropriate to describe the transatlntic slave trade as genocide because the definition of "genocide" (quoting Oxford English dictionary) is the delibrate killing of a very large number of people from a particular ethnic group. There are numerous documentations of cargoes of Africans being deliberately thrown overboard for insurance purposes, numerous Africans being killed on slave plantations in the most inhumane brutal ways imaginable, and Africans who were killed because they escaped, over a period of more 350 years.
If that doesn't qualify as genocide Njucks what does? And Njucks to describe the transatlantic Slave Trade as organised systematic removal of Africans between the 15th and 19th Century as a clinical humane practice is farcical to say the least. May I remind you none of those Africans taken were voluntarily removed or siogned contracts to labour in the Americas on the contrary they were removed by force.
A quick test to find out who is today a victim of the slave trade requires a simple test. Those of you who are of African descendent who can trace your family lineage for more than ten generations and those of you who cannot.
Jambo, yes indeed the slave trade was already flourishing when Britain entered but Britain brought the trade to new heights and Britain became the most prosperous slave trading nation than Spain,Portugal,Holland and France by far. At the beginning of 20th Century Britain ruled the majority of the world. During the trade Britain ruled 13 colonies in America and the majority of the West Indies and Canada all at one time were slave holding states, and paid taxes to the British Crown and Church of England and insubequent years the British governments until the trade was abolished or these colonies became independent from the British Empire. "1773 British sugar imports from Jamaica alone was 5 times that from all the thirteen mainland colonies of America. The island of Grenada produced 8 times more than all of Canada. Hochschild.A(2005)"Bury the Chains The British Struggle to Abolish Slavery".p55"
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 05 Aug 2006 : 18:09:41
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If that doesn't qualify as genocide Njucks what does? And Njucks to describe the transatlantic Slave Trade as organised systematic removal of Africans between the 15th and 19th Century as a clinical humane practice is farcical to say the least. May I remind you none of those Africans taken were voluntarily removed or siogned contracts to labour in the Americas on the contrary they were removed by force.
ok ok . i think you misunderstood. i am not making an excuse for or trying to justify anything. my understanding of Holocaust is that the primary objective is to exterminate. it doesnt make sense to me to exterminate people you want to work for you??
but thats not the point and doesnt matter. when i said systematic and organised,it was.that is why we have the records today. do you thing the jews sent to Auschwitz were also given contracts????, it is the machinery behind it that i was refering to. |
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