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njucks

Gambia
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Posted - 02 Nov 2006 :  19:14:22  Show Profile Send njucks a Private Message
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Originally posted by gambiabev
.... I have no time for white south Africans at all.



i would almost agree with you on this one, but i dont generalise. we must remember that it was a war against a system not between two races. many whites/indians etc suffered under apartheid, some simply for helping blacks escape or hiding them.

i am always saddended when i hear white south africans leaving the country claiming how 'bad' things have become. Dr, academics, etc are all leaving. this is not good for the futute of the country, for growth, econmics etc.

since they stayed under apartheid i think the least they could do is to stay and help create jobs, share knowledge and expertise.

this is the best path to true reconciliation.

but you do have a point gambiabev, some of the white south africans i have met simply astonish me by their indifference. i just smile out of shock.
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gambiabev

United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 Nov 2006 :  20:36:22  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
Nelson Mandela has a wonderful 'charisma' or 'spirituality' that even reaches through the tv screen. There is no doubting he is a very special man.
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gambiabev

United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 Nov 2006 :  20:40:48  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
njucks, I agree it is bad to generalise, but it was my honest opinion of the white south africans I have met. They did tend to be older people. I hope the younger generation is more liberal and less divisive.
My nephew goes to primary school in Leicester and it is like united nations. Seeing all these children from different backgrounds being friends and playing happily together, makes me optimistic for the future.
If the younger generations are educated together in South Africa that will help bring change about.
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Cornelius

Sweden
1051 Posts

Posted - 02 Nov 2006 :  22:17:45  Show Profile Send Cornelius a Private Message
As you may have not noticed, I avoid the issue of Botha’s passing away, since I have suffered less and do not have the humane conciliatory energies of Ngoh Nelson Mandela, since I still harbour hard feelings about the errors of that generation.

How about some more compensation, along with truth and conciliation, Bev?

Expanding the topical little ( I’ll find and post the particular excerpt later –it was useful background to the Sierra Leone Truth and Reconciliation Commission, albeit vastly differing cause but for the diamonds in common with Executive Outcomes.)


http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=excerpt+from+Wole+Soyinka++The+Burden+of+Memory%2C+the+Muse+of+forgiveness+&btnG=Search&meta=

Themba Feza, what every generation does, not revenge, just looking forward and this site is always an inspiration, a source of good brothers’ keepers ideas in action,:

http://www.anc.org.za/

(yes, It’s known that there is a growing Middle Class.)


May I add this for Banta Bah :

http://globetrotter.berkeley.edu/Elberg/Soyinka/soyinka-con4.html

Edited by - Cornelius on 02 Nov 2006 22:27:52
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