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gambia6005



Canada
79 Posts

Posted - 13 Oct 2006 :  11:35:21  Show Profile  Visit gambia6005's Homepage Send gambia6005 a Private Message
where can one rapport child abuse not to the police beceause most of the time the police is involved in the sceem!
so let me repeat my question,where can one rapport childabuse by foreigners ans should you rapport it is it not dangerous to do so
please reply -it is time we stop this plague!!!
and wich penalty should be given to them??

LEMON TIME



Afghanistan
1295 Posts

Posted - 13 Oct 2006 :  13:01:15  Show Profile Send LEMON TIME a Private Message
I am sure some police will take action when you REPORT any child sex happening.

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Sister Omega



United Kingdom
2085 Posts

Posted - 13 Oct 2006 :  13:20:54  Show Profile  Visit Sister Omega's Homepage Send Sister Omega a Private Message
Hi gambia6005 Report it to the police, and Social Services as soon as possible. So that the children can be rescued from this deplorable situation. What are you waiting for?

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gambia6005



Canada
79 Posts

Posted - 13 Oct 2006 :  14:57:10  Show Profile  Visit gambia6005's Homepage Send gambia6005 a Private Message
dear sister omega a stept forward in thepast and get the whole
dutch community over me.believe me a could not let this unpunished
up until now I need to travel incognitto to the gambia
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gambia6005



Canada
79 Posts

Posted - 13 Oct 2006 :  15:01:09  Show Profile  Visit gambia6005's Homepage Send gambia6005 a Private Message
the owner from holland house flee to the netherlands and is covicted
to 1 year in prison for raping 8 young under age girlls do you call this justice-I wonder when a gambian does the same in holland if they
only give him 1 year for raping 8 children???
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serenata



Germany
1400 Posts

Posted - 13 Oct 2006 :  15:18:56  Show Profile Send serenata a Private Message
Sister Omega, right, this is the best: Report it to two different officials instead of only the police. Another report should go to the Child Protection Alliance (CPA) in Gambia.

Tourists should take photos of critical situations. This will discourage paedophiles a lot, as child abuse now can be prosecuted in many of their home countries.

BBC writes: "The GTA has issued a code of conduct signed by hotels and restaurants to ensure that tourists don't take children into their rooms and the Gambia Tourism Security Unit has been set up to guard tourist areas" A good approach, and I hope it works.
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Sister Omega



United Kingdom
2085 Posts

Posted - 13 Oct 2006 :  15:57:38  Show Profile  Visit Sister Omega's Homepage Send Sister Omega a Private Message
gambia6005 this is very disturbing news. The sentence of this paedophile is absolutely disgraceful. You are right in saying that if it were a Gambian raping 8 Dutch girls they would of given him a very long sentence. The sentence passed by the Dutch court is a mockery to justice. gambia6005 as Serenta has mentioned it is worth sending any information you may have both written and/or photograhic information to the Child Protection Alliance and GTA. Gambia needs to have build a register of Foreign Paedoplhiles so that they can prevent them from entering the country.

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gambia6005



Canada
79 Posts

Posted - 13 Oct 2006 :  16:40:25  Show Profile  Visit gambia6005's Homepage Send gambia6005 a Private Message
I did rapport it let there be no mistake,we adults are responsible for every child on earth if they are your own or not-you most consider them your own,so I say every boy and girl is a much as my own child and it is or obbligation to protect them both from gambians and dutch vulgars!
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serenata



Germany
1400 Posts

Posted - 13 Oct 2006 :  16:52:07  Show Profile Send serenata a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by gambia6005

the owner from holland house flee to the netherlands and is covicted
to 1 year in prison for raping 8 young under age girlls do you call this justice-I wonder when a gambian does the same in holland if they
only give him 1 year for raping 8 children???
gambia6005, this Gambian would go to prison for at least 6 years in Germany. And I am almost sure that a German in his place would be treated much better - 1 to 2 years, like that man in Holland.

This is what I see in Germany: Not only a racist judiciary; it looks as if the judiciary is having a secret buddying with paedophiles. Rumours say that there are a lot of paedophiles among judges and attorneys. I am far from accusing all the good and fair judges we have. But from a psychological viewpoint it makes sense that weak personalities - like paedophiles and racists - feel tempted to choose a profession which gives them power over people's lives. It takes much more to be a good judge (or attorney) than excellent diploma; that's a weak point in our legal system.
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njucks

Gambia
1131 Posts

Posted - 13 Oct 2006 :  20:26:17  Show Profile Send njucks a Private Message
gambia6005,

i can't follow your story very well but what exactly are you trying to report. a Dutch tourist raping kids? did you witness or know a dutch doing some crazy stuff in the gambia? sorry but what the story?

Anyway the Gambia Police Force cannot be part of this game, trust me.

if you need to report this is what you shoudl do, since its a small country go directly to Banjul Police HQ and ask for the child protection Unit. Report it.

then go the the Child Protection Alliance (near the stadium) and Report it and ask them to go with you to the police. the guy there was Jalamang Camara. ask directly for him.

also report it to the Tourism police at Kotu and the GTA.

finally go to any of the newspapers and report your story, it will be printed the next day!!

i think there is a disgusting aspect of tourism discussed several times on the bantaba. unfortunately there is no computer system as the airport to filter out these people.
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gambia6005



Canada
79 Posts

Posted - 14 Oct 2006 :  10:14:36  Show Profile  Visit gambia6005's Homepage Send gambia6005 a Private Message
NJUCKS
I did rapport it but the man escaped to holland and is sentence to only 1 year and I went to the daily observer and they printed the story-but, now I am receiving death threats if I going to the gambia they will shoot me so I still think it is still going on because the people who are threathening me are living in brusubi-
last year the police arrested a dutchman and he bribe them with
500 000 dalasisand went to holland. and sources told me he is again in the gambia
do you called that justice.I did only my duty and a I am no longer able to go to the gambia-and the perpetrator is walking free and happy in brusubi-maybe again on the hunt???
did I mention the same day that my story was in the newspaper my wife was wounded by a man with a big knife-coincidens I don't think so
I've need to take a private phonenumber in europe they where stalking
me day and night-I tell you there is a network of dutchman in the gambia running prostitution,how do you think they can effort those fancy houses in brusubi;yes I am affraid to go to the gambia,and I missed my friend and relatives!me and a few business partners where
planning to do big investment in jatropha but we cannot go to the gambia! the smiling coast who is smiling-the netherlands
they also made sure that everyone that knew me lost there job
I call them the hollandmaffia in the gambia.
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Sister Omega



United Kingdom
2085 Posts

Posted - 14 Oct 2006 :  12:59:03  Show Profile  Visit Sister Omega's Homepage Send Sister Omega a Private Message
gambia6005 have you considered reporting the matter to Statehouse?

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gambiabev

United Kingdom
3091 Posts

Posted - 14 Oct 2006 :  16:16:25  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
You did the right thing and it is terrible that you are suffering because of it. Whatver happened to the rights of the innocent and witness protection.
In a small country like Gambia (that feels like a big village) it must be difficult to offer witnesses anominity. In serious crime cases where organised gangs are involved it is very diffcult to get a conviction unless a brave person speaks out.
You are to be commended.
It sounds as if the police are turning a blind eye to what is going on. Perhaps they are taking a cut???
I have no problem with prostitution when it is an individuals own life choice. But when gangs are involved in the organisation I am sure some people will be force into it, which is terrible. Also there is usually other activities such as drugs and violent crime involved.
People from other countries shouldnt be allowed to import their sick ways to the Gambia. If they are found guilty of a sex crime they should be severely dealt with and serve the sentence in Gambia. Then on release they should be deported AND NOT ALLOWED BACK INTO THE COUNTRY. Furthermore, it should be on their records in their own country. SO in UK if a teacher was involved in sex with children in Gambia, they would never get work as a teacher again. Just because it isnt on their home territory doesnt make it less of a crime!!!!
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anna



Netherlands
730 Posts

Posted - 15 Oct 2006 :  00:13:27  Show Profile Send anna a Private Message
Gambia6005, first of all i would like to say that children have to be protected from sexual abuse at all times - there is no doubt in my mind that adults who abuse children should be persecuted.

I know about the Dutch owner of Holland House being convicted on the basis of testimony by 2 (and not 8) young Gambian women, who at the time of the abuse were about 16 or 17 years old. The story was in the Dutch papers.

Regarding the rest of your accusations: are you sure about these things?? Because i see the strangest and most awful accusations passing by, in your posting as well as in Serenata's - i don't know if i myself would take the responsibility of writing black on white that there are many paedophiles among judges and attorneys. Is this the conclusion of some investigation? Just like saying that there are Dutch running organized prostitution in the Gambia, as you state, seems to me to be something so farfetched that this might, i say MIGHT, exist only in your mind. Are you sure you haven't got a grudge against some Dutch person living in your country, somebody who wronged you in some way?

The Dutch are traders by nature, and i know of Dutch people in the Gambia who own garages, or car-rental companies, or guesthouses etc. And i know of a lot Dutch people who run small foundations having to do with sponsoring schools or hospitals.

I am far from chauvinistic and when i am in the Gambia i stay away from all the types of places where you meet many Dutch tourists - mainly because the way they behave make me feel they are in the wrong place, that they mistake the Gambia for the Costa del Sol. But the same can be said of some of the British tourists, or Scandinavian ones. But the way you want to make readers of this Bantaba believe that all Dutch are there to rape children or to make money in the prostitution industry makes me feel this is personal: your accusations are aimed at one person only and you feel the best way is to give us Dutch all a bad name.
I am very, very sorry one Dutch person made your life miserable, it should never have happened. But be careful with these wild accusations, please.

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gambiabev

United Kingdom
3091 Posts

Posted - 15 Oct 2006 :  12:00:32  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
At one hotel I visited last year there were a group of English tourists who never left the pool side. All they did was drink. Well of course, they are on holiday and have the right to do as they wish. The hotel staff were outwardly always polite to them,but they resented them. Spending more on alcohol in a day than they earn in a month! Getting visably drunk in a Muslim country. Drinking in the daytime and NOT venturing out to see anything of the Gambia at all. They might aswell have been in Benidorm!!!

When I am in England I drink wine at home and go out to the pub about once a week, sometimes getting a bit drunk! That is quite acceptable in England as long as you arent a problem to anyone else (eg fighting, drinking and diving and so on).But in Gambia I NEVER drink in the daytime, especially if I am out of the hotel. At night I would have a couple of drinks, but very quietly and modestly and if I am sat with hotel staff I would buy them a soft drink. For me it is the socialising, not the drinking that is important when I am in Gambia. I love going to a night club where most people are sober. The atmosphere is so relaxed and not intimidating and aggressive. It's great!

Tourists from any country (not just Dutch) should respect the Gambia and its people and behave appropriately.

Children the world over, should have the right to a childhood. Free from fear of peodophiles. The Gambian government needs to work with governments in europe to make sure these MEN (it is mainly MEN)dont gain entrance to the country. Also local GAmbian communitites need educating into the danger of letting their children alone with male tourists. Sad, but true. Also lets not forget that there will be some Gambian men that are peodophiles too. It seems to be a genetic thing that a certain % of any population will have this impluse. We hear about it more these days, but it will always of happened. It was just not acknowledged and brushed under the carpet.
If a child tells us it has been abused MOST cases will be telling the truth. We need to listen to our children as parents, teachers, church workers, mosque leaders, police staff and so on.
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gambia6005



Canada
79 Posts

Posted - 15 Oct 2006 :  13:09:02  Show Profile  Visit gambia6005's Homepage Send gambia6005 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by anna

Gambia6005, first of all i would like to say that children have to be protected from sexual abuse at all times - there is no doubt in my mind that adults who abuse children should be persecuted.

I know about the Dutch owner of Holland House being convicted on the basis of testimony by 2 (and not 8) young Gambian women, who at the time of the abuse were about 16 or 17 years old. The story was in the Dutch papers.

Regarding the rest of your accusations: are you sure about these things?? Because i see the strangest and most awful accusations passing by, in your posting as well as in Serenata's - i don't know if i myself would take the responsibility of writing black on white that there are many paedophiles among judges and attorneys. Is this the conclusion of some investigation? Just like saying that there are Dutch running organized prostitution in the Gambia, as you state, seems to me to be something so farfetched that this might, i say MIGHT, exist only in your mind. Are you sure you haven't got a grudge against some Dutch person living in your country, somebody who wronged you in some way?

The Dutch are traders by nature, and i know of Dutch people in the Gambia who own garages, or car-rental companies, or guesthouses etc. And i know of a lot Dutch people who run small foundations having to do with sponsoring schools or hospitals.

I am far from chauvinistic and when i am in the Gambia i stay away from all the types of places where you meet many Dutch tourists - mainly because the way they behave make me feel they are in the wrong place, that they mistake the Gambia for the Costa del Sol. But the same can be said of some of the British tourists, or Scandinavian ones. But the way you want to make readers of this Bantaba believe that all Dutch are there to rape children or to make money in the prostitution industry makes me feel this is personal: your accusations are aimed at one person only and you feel the best way is to give us Dutch all a bad name.
I am very, very sorry one Dutch person made your life miserable, it should never have happened. But be careful with these wild accusations, please.

dear anna I have only a grudge to peopla who treathen to kill me-abouth dutch people I have some of my best friends are dutch
your question abouth trying to make me look stupis if the facts are only in my mind -THE RAPPORT OF TERREDESHOMMES IS THIS SOMETHINF i MADE UP WITH MY SICK MIND
no dear anna some 99% of the dutch people are very nice and generious
but I am talking abouth let's say a group living in brusubi -I bet you know them to and try to cover up wat they are doing;
I hope and pray that you are not 1 of them
Ifeel sorry for people like you knowing the best and learning lessons to the rest of the world
again there are dutchman who I love and care abouth because a consider them very close friends-as long as they not say that they
going to kill me I have it on tape and gave it to the police
anna Iwish you all the best but open your eyes and look around you
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