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Alhassan

Sweden
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Posted - 09 Aug 2006 :  14:10:17  Show Profile Send Alhassan a Private Message
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Originally posted by serenata

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Originally posted by Alhassan

Sister, I just kannot imagine myself being in love with somebody as old as my grandmother. Mybe some body else can. People are different. That is what I mean.
Ok, people are different. But I fear most of the Gambian girls with old husbands didn't choose them themselves. These are more or less forced marriages.

I know the case of a man of 70-something who married an 18 year old girl. He didn't really want to marry her, but her father who was his friend wanted the girl to be well suited. The poor old man couldn't refuse, because then his friend would have been angry, and people would have regarded him as close-fisted. It can even happen that both sides are forced...


Sister,
I am awear of the facts of forced marrages at home. I think it is dying out nowadays. The problem is our older men who go after schoolgirls and other women whilst they have two or tree wives at home. The problem is there. Teenage pregnancy is also a problem at home.
The cases of young girls or boys marring older Europeans is not all the time because of love. The young ones are in a haste to get out of Gambia. It does not matter how. Poverty is the problem. The cases of forced marrage at home have been a problem all the time. Quick divorces, or wife snaching(stealing)are some of the results. forced marrage is soon to dissapear because of generetion change. Women are more educated and independant than the older generation. We see the changes withn the families and here of different stories that has brought change. Soon I hope most of the things done to women against their will will come to a definate stopp. You are more aware of the situation now and have much choices. I hope also that the law makers would help also.
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serenata



Germany
1400 Posts

Posted - 09 Aug 2006 :  14:58:17  Show Profile Send serenata a Private Message
You are right, Alhassan - the law makers should be aware of these problems, and take action. The case I mentioned is a rather fresh one, and it happened in a rural area. But I also hope that these things are going to die out.

But I never heard of 'wife snatching' in Gambia. What is it?
I only know about African immigrants in Europe who try to come between African-European couples; the motives of these people are obvious. I myself experienced such an attempt but easily saw through the plot, so it was at no time compromising our marriage.

Edited by - serenata on 09 Aug 2006 14:59:13
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Sister Omega



United Kingdom
2085 Posts

Posted - 09 Aug 2006 :  15:10:38  Show Profile  Visit Sister Omega's Homepage Send Sister Omega a Private Message
Serenata can you elaborate more on this "I only know about African immigrants in Europe who try to come between African-European couples." peace Sister Omega

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serenata



Germany
1400 Posts

Posted - 09 Aug 2006 :  15:27:35  Show Profile Send serenata a Private Message
Don't feel offended, Sister. I meant some schemes I experienced myself and/or heard about. E.g., when an African on asylum in Germany found a German girl or woman who wanted to marry him, dear 'friends' came and told the lady bad things about her fiancé. This is only the very simple version, but I know about worse, and much more refined cases.

European immigration laws even undermine the solidarity among immigrants, that's a sad truth.
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serenata



Germany
1400 Posts

Posted - 09 Aug 2006 :  15:31:45  Show Profile Send serenata a Private Message
Maybe I should point out that in some of these cases the intrigue worked, and the one who started it got the woman - and the visa in the end.
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Sister Omega



United Kingdom
2085 Posts

Posted - 09 Aug 2006 :  17:31:23  Show Profile  Visit Sister Omega's Homepage Send Sister Omega a Private Message
Serenata I don't feel offended by your statement.It is good for all of us to know about such schemes to make people aware of these intrigues. I think it's important to emphasis that this can happen to any western passport holder regardless of origin.

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jambo



3300 Posts

Posted - 09 Aug 2006 :  17:44:22  Show Profile Send jambo a Private Message
sister omega, i agree with you on that, it has happened to a lot of westerners in the far east, some places have a thriving "thai bride/Asian wife" market/business going on.
I think some of the governments are putting a stop to this type of business as it is getting negative press. There have been other press stories about men who have married Far east women and have died.
They have found that the bride had "a family friend" who did the introductions, but it was all about money never about love, she wanted a visa and to travel, the "family Friend helped her get it".
Unfortunately it is starting to arrive in Africa, before it was a tourst met a local and got married end of story,
But this one is opening up a can of worms. She had"family friends" who got involved in the set up. I believe she and the friends targetted a toubab for financial gain, he could have been any European national.
Look behind the facts, bought a house, brought her to england. When they come to court the facts will tell, he wanted to change his will in favour of his family here. I will make a bet that "her family friends" found this out and decided to kill him.
money is behind this.
I am sad for his family but quite angry that they are coming from other countries to gambia and doing this.
I read on the Daily observors that a Gambian would never do this, they would marry, get a house or visa, but not murder it is not a Gambian trait.
Noboby has answered my question will they spend their jail time in Gambia or Nigeria.
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njucks

Gambia
1131 Posts

Posted - 09 Aug 2006 :  17:59:09  Show Profile Send njucks a Private Message
if sentenced they will probably spend the rest of their life in Jail in the gambia under hard labour. i dont think we have parol but should they ever be released as foreigners they will be deported.

that i know for sure.
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Sister Omega



United Kingdom
2085 Posts

Posted - 09 Aug 2006 :  18:04:39  Show Profile  Visit Sister Omega's Homepage Send Sister Omega a Private Message
Jambo this is a case which needs to used as an example to deter any other copycat crimes of this nature. Njucks So what does hard labour sentence entail and does life in Gambia actually mean life or is it ten year sentence or less depending on the nature of the crime?

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jambo



3300 Posts

Posted - 09 Aug 2006 :  19:00:23  Show Profile Send jambo a Private Message
i agree with that, but i am hoping that human rights people do not get involved this was a heinous crime and they deserve the sentence. hard labour or not
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LEMON TIME



Afghanistan
1295 Posts

Posted - 09 Aug 2006 :  21:06:09  Show Profile Send LEMON TIME a Private Message
JAMBO,HUMAN RIGHT IN THE GAMBIA EHH YOU MUST BE JOKING.
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