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jambo
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molly75
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 02 Aug 2006 : 13:44:16
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| I saw this on the news last week and it is just tragic, i too hope she gets imprisoned for life. It seems that her only motive of marrying this man was money and it it just tragic that it ended in his death. But many of these relationships between old people and very young, seem to be financially driven. Hopefully this will not impact on the Gambia too much, especially as she was not Gambian. It is just so very sad. |
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serenata
Germany
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Posted - 02 Aug 2006 : 14:48:28
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Until now she is not found guilty, right?
A 70 year old who marries a 20 year old must be very stupid to believe it is love from her side. Murder is beyond excuse, and this case is really terrible, but maybe now some dirty old men/women who consider to marry a very young partner think twice. |
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jambo
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Posted - 02 Aug 2006 : 15:09:32
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Serenate, you would think so. if i could find the sentence i woul dpost if on the site. It was something a long the lines of "this part of Gambia is becoming a magnet for women like this". What is sad is that the reputation of Gambia will be shown in a bad light. |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 Aug 2006 : 16:07:28
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Hi Jambo,
This couple were two foreign nationals and neither they or the others implicated in Mr West murder were Gambians. Therefore I don't see how this case will reflect badly on Gambia, to the contrary Dear Jambo , it does seem that Gambian Police have done a good job at solving this crime and therefore should be commended.
Peace
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Janky
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 Aug 2006 : 16:18:04
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This is totally discusting and she needs to be sent to prison for a long long time. This poor man's family and friends need justice to be able to deal with the horror, believe me take it from someone who knows.
I hope that she will be imprisioned in the Gambia as this is where she commited the crime.I agree this will be very bad publicity for Gambia and may put people of visiting.....I hope it doesnt though |
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serenata
Germany
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Posted - 02 Aug 2006 : 16:19:32
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Originally posted by Sister Omega
Hi Jambo,
This couple were two foreign nationals and neither they or the others implicated in Mr West murder were Gambians. Therefore I don't see how this case will reflect badly on Gambia, to the contrary Dear Jambo, it does seem that Gambian Police have done a good job at solving this crime and therefore should be commended.
Peace
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jambo
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Posted - 02 Aug 2006 : 18:33:27
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[font=Arial]Janky i hope she is sent back to nigeria for the prison sentence, but the reason i ask, if the crime is committed on gambian soil is she not imprisoned there!.
sisterm omega i know they are not gambians never said they were. |
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Alhassan
Sweden
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Posted - 07 Aug 2006 : 13:52:34
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Originally posted by serenata
Until now she is not found guilty, right?
A 70 year old who marries a 20 year old must be very stupid to believe it is love from her side. Murder is beyond excuse, and this case is really terrible, but maybe now some dirty old men/women who consider to marry a very young partner think twice.
Sister,
There are many young Gambians who are married to very old people. As you can recall in the early years of Turistism this was not at all a problem in the Gambia. I know many young boys who came here by marrying women who are as old as their grandmothers. This problem still exists. In Scandinavia, there is rumors and disatisfaction about this. This is because as soon as the young boy gets his papers, he is off to marry his own agegroup.There are also old Gambian women who marry young boys too for benifits. This is known by some in Stockholm. Some of the convicted young boys for drug trafficing are or were married to some of these old Gambian women. In fact some years ago there were many newspaper articles about Old Swedish women hunting young boys on the Gambian beaches. There was even a tv program from Britain about this problem. Right now there is a case concerning inheritance of an old husband who the children say that the girl married their father for the money and not for love. There are many young Gambian girls married to very old people by the age of 65 to 70. There must be some kind of love.
I know even young girls who would tell you that Gambian men cannot take care of them so they choose to marry very old Europeans.
I have asked if this man was an African, would you still marry him? The answer I always is Oh! no
There must be a reason. This is what we try to find out.
I as an African cannot marry an African woman as old as my mother, then why should I do it with a non African?
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Aug 2006 : 16:43:09
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Its economics and has ALWAYS gone on! The difference now in Gambia is that old women are imvolved as well as old men! When old men marry a young girl, people think good luck to them! Not so kind when it is the other way around!!!
This case that has made the papers has made LOTS of people ask me if I am reconsidering going to The Gambia alone. For people that dont know the country, such as my parents, it makes them very anxious for my safety. It makes NO difference that the people werent Gambian, it happened in the Gambia, that is enough to put people off.
IF tourists are going to be targeted and MURDERED for their money it WILL put people off. Lets hope it is a sad, but isolated case.
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serenata
Germany
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Posted - 07 Aug 2006 : 16:56:50
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Alhassan, what kind of love do you mean when you say "There are many young Gambian girls married to very old people by the age of 65 to 70. There must be some kind of love." - the love for money?
Gambiabev, you are right: When an old man marries a young girl it is regarded different. This shows nothing but that we are living in a patriarchal world. I can't imagine that a young woman's feelings for a man who could be her grandfather are different from those of a young man for an old woman. I remember when I was 19, a man of 46 fell in love with me. I was disgusted!  |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 07 Aug 2006 : 17:13:06
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there is a play due to be released in the next two weeks called "Sugar Mommies" it is set in Negril, caribbean islands. It is about three women over 50 who go to the islands and are looking for love. but it is a money thing, they get attention and the young man involved gets money, gifts.
People are so use to old men with young girls, that when a it is a female in charge it makes the news.
But going back to the title of the forum,
He did not deserve to get murder, it happened in Gambia, some people will read the story and think gambia is like that.
I still hope the female involved and her accompliances get long sentences. |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Aug 2006 : 18:51:32
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Yes I heard about that play too. Linda Bellingham is one of the actresses. I think in general when it is an old white man and a young black girl the girl seems to be VERY young (teenage). It is almost abuse. He is doing what he couldnt do at home! But the relationships between the white women and the black men seem to be more women in their 40s and 50s and men in their late 20s and early 30s. This is much more a case of mutual exploitation : sex and money. It is an agreement, perhaps unstated. These men dont consider themselves prostitutes. In England they would be considered 'escorts' I suppose.
I would want someone to be with me because of love; and not because of love of what I might be able to provide them. How could you ever be certain that their love was true?
Back to the case. I think that Mr West was probably misguided, but he didnt deserve to die in this way. Perhaps it will make others stop and think? |
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Alhassan
Sweden
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Posted - 08 Aug 2006 : 22:19:35
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Originally posted by serenata
Alhassan, what kind of love do you mean when you say "There are many young Gambian girls married to very old people by the age of 65 to 70. There must be some kind of love." - the love for money?
Gambiabev, you are right: When an old man marries a young girl it is regarded different. This shows nothing but that we are living in a patriarchal world. I can't imagine that a young woman's feelings for a man who could be her grandfather are different from those of a young man for an old woman. I remember when I was 19, a man of 46 fell in love with me. I was disgusted!
Sister,
I just kannot imagine myself being in love with somebody as old as my grandmother. Mybe some body else can. People are different. That is what I mean. |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Aug 2006 : 22:33:53
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I think it is best to avoid he generation gap!
As I have previously posted 15 years plus or minus is safest.
that way you wont be dating your children or your parents. |
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serenata
Germany
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Posted - 09 Aug 2006 : 12:44:51
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Originally posted by Alhassan
Sister, I just kannot imagine myself being in love with somebody as old as my grandmother. Mybe some body else can. People are different. That is what I mean.
Ok, people are different. But I fear most of the Gambian girls with old husbands didn't choose them themselves. These are more or less forced marriages.
I know the case of a man of 70-something who married an 18 year old girl. He didn't really want to marry her, but her father who was his friend wanted the girl to be well suited. The poor old man couldn't refuse, because then his friend would have been angry, and people would have regarded him as close-fisted. It can even happen that both sides are forced... |
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