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kobo
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 25 Jul 2006 : 13:01:43
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Can we research what are war crimes and why for e.g Melosovic and Sadaam Hussein were subjected to them Also why Hitler suffers disrepute under international law Your contributions are highly appreciated to deal with duoble standards of American policies.
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 25 Jul 2006 : 15:38:45
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Originally posted by kobo
Can we research what are war crimes and why for e.g Melosovic and Sadaam Hussein were subjected to them Also why Hitler suffers disrepute under international law Your contributions are highly appreciated to deal with duoble standards of American policies.
well i think the original trials were those of the Nazi officials called the Nuremberg trials. i dont think there was the UN or some major international treaty like the Geneva Convention at that time. it was more like a military tribunal held by the victors of WWII. mostly they were trial for War Crimes and violation of treaties of peace etc. mainly only the leaders/generals were targeted.
thereafter the Geneva Conventions are the basis of international law and it's very clear on who are civilians and how they should be protected during war, uprising etc.
Human Rights and Genocide is also fundamental to the UN charter.its a pity that what it was meant to prevent has been happening repeated as the UN watches blindly. |
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jambo
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Posted - 25 Jul 2006 : 20:02:47
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njucks, you are right look at the time when the acts were committed, it was not considered a war crimes that it why nuremburg was set up. Time and attitude, some of the people and countries who would have tried hitler were guilty of allowing it to happen. After the war, it was only russia that went on a witchhunt, America, UK and France were lenient towards the germans, but russia wanted revenge.
for Melosovic and Sadaa Hussein there is a set of rules, which were in place before they came to power. But they still got away with attroticiets. Treaties had been signed, in these two instance they were ot worth the piece of paper they were written on. No sure if Hussein and Iraq were signatories to any treaties. Only if a country has signed a recognised treaty can they be held accountable.
It is not so much a double standard as a generation gap. Hitler 1945, Hussein, 2006, 60 years later.
Hitler suffers under international law because he invaded other coutries, remember if you keep you keep your business at home, people turn a blind eye. Also Hitler and the German government are being sued for return of land, property, reputation and recognition for human crimes.
ref milosovic http://www.un.org/icty/glance/milosevic.htm
re hussein http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam%27s_Trial_and_Iran-Iraq_War |
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 25 Jul 2006 : 20:26:10
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yeah Jambo i think with Sadam the main charge is he used some chemical gases on kurdish people somewhere in Iraq in the 1980s. Obviously this is not why his country was invaded but thats a seperate topic. what i dont get is that he also used these during the Iraq-Iran War.
But more importantly i always remember on TV whenever the Vietnam War is shown there is this picture of a young anked girl on fire escaping from her village. her village was on fire because the Americans were dropping Napalm. Maybe someone should try the americans for Crimes against Humanity.
but again that war did not distinguish civilian from the communists.
during the Apartheid regime, South Africa was under economic sanctions. when they needed energy they decided to built a Nuclear Power plant. France did not hesistate to built it. the plant is still running in Cape Town. US $1bn is too much to resist i guess.
the UN is a big joke. members of the security council themsleves breach the charter and international law. |
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Newfy
Western Samoa
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 Jul 2006 : 23:51:30
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| What led to the creation of International courts of Justices and the relevant acts prolmugated especially crimes against humanity and war crimes Any further research and help as am very busy at the moment and it appears diplomacy is disintegrating in the International community. |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 26 Jul 2006 : 17:31:02
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Rules of convention under http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4879942.stm
kobo i have read the article and i'n not surpirsed that the ''US Attorney General Alberto Gonzales once called the Geneva Conventions "quaint". he should go back for remedial law classes.
what is also true is that there is also the Universal Declaration of Human rights (UDHR ) of how people should be treated as a basic principle. whether they are terrorist or not is irrelevant. Guantanamo is illegal.detaining people without a chrge, representation,torture, hearing, visits, etc is illegal. i think this UDHR is not binding thats why i also think some of them dont recognise the Int. Court of Justice. |
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