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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 28 Oct 2013 : 10:50:03
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It supposed to be ten answers from Halifa. This one looks like one long answer,and he didn't exonerate PDOIS there because what he accused BB Darboe and OJ of, he did worst than that. Not only did he recognised the authority of the junta, he also connived with them to force a constitution through the throats of Gambians. No one was allowed to say anything about the draft constitution except views that were in line with the junta's wishes. Halifa did not only accepted this, he worked tirelessly to make it worked and success, he achieved.
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toubab1020
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Posted - 28 Oct 2013 : 11:12:59
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| This topic and others currently running along the same lines appear to have passed through the heavy fog that affected them and are now in a heavy mist ,soon hopefully further along the winding road clear bright daylight will be shining through. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 30 Oct 2013 : 19:31:55
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quote:
Originally posted by Nyarikangbanna
It supposed to be ten answers from Halifa. This one looks like one long answer,and he didn't exonerate PDOIS there because what he accused BB Darboe and OJ of, he did worst than that. Not only did he recognised the authority of the junta, he also connived with them to force a constitution through the throats of Gambians. No one was allowed to say anything about the draft constitution except views that were in line with the junta's wishes. Halifa did not only accepted this, he worked tirelessly to make it worked and success, he achieved.
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1. First blood already drawn and wounded LION ON OFFENSIVE; ATTACKING BACK ENEMIES OF PROGRESS, DETRACTORS, EXPOSING DECEPTION, PERSONAL HATRED, SMEARING CAMPAIGN AND MALICIOUS VILE SLANDERS.
TRUTH HURTS! IN WOLLOF "Deega kaani la kuko nyam ham ko"" = BOb Marley "He who feels it, knows it most!"
AND NOTED ON RECORD FOR FOROYAA/PDOIS STATING THAT "Bullets may kill the ambassadors of truth, but not the truth itself." 
Halifa responds to you: "Fatou (Nyarikangbanna), the day of the takeover is the most important phase of military rule. All political figures past and present need to render account how they reacted to the takeover.
We have given account of ourselves two days after the coup in the letter we wrote on 24 July, 1994. The letter provides incontestable evidence that we never abandoned the Republic and the Sovereign people in their time of greatest need. It reveals with overwhelming thoroughness that PDOIS was uncompromising in defending the sovereignty of the Republic and the sovereignty of the people."
2. Second POINT is that you (Nyarikangbanna aka S S Daffeh amongst others) were HIGH SCHOOL KIDS during takeover and you cannot rewrite history for us and WHOLE NATION
3.Toubab 1020 I like your comments above (Posted - 28 Oct 2013 : 11:12:59 & Edited by - toubab1020 on 28 Oct 2013 11:15:50) |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 30 Oct 2013 : 19:34:45
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1. Ten questions for PDOIS Ten Answers for Fatou Jaw Manneh Part 2B
Halifa Responds to Question No.1 from Fatou Jaw Manneh
Fatou, the day of the takeover is the most important phase of military rule. All political figures past and present need to render account how they reacted to the takeover.
We have given account of ourselves two days after the coup in the letter we wrote on 24 July, 1994. The letter provides incontestable evidence that we never abandoned the Republic and the Sovereign people in their time of greatest need. It reveals with overwhelming thoroughness that PDOIS was uncompromising in defending the sovereignty of the Republic and the sovereignty of the people.
Interestingly enough, you Fatou Jaw Manneh regard with reverend awe and honour those who handed you and your compatriots over, in chains, to the coup makers to seek comfort under military rule, and then turned around to project as villains the PDOIS leaders who rejected the comfort associated with Ministerial post and called instead for the restoration of the birth right of the Gambian people. How could you justify such a crude twist of logic, such blatant disregard of truth, and such treacherous manipulation of fiction with the sole objective of making it stand as fact? I have said it to other members that my only consolation is that I still believe that you are playing the devil’s advocate to help bring out the truth. Otherwise, I would have been daring to say that when the mind revolts against sound reasoning, when the heart takes up a dagger against good faith, when the conscience could no longer host truth, a person must see evil as good and good as evil.
It is such persons that are capable of perpetrating the most heinous of crimes against humanity. They take rash actions before asking for evidence. Their victims are gone before entertaining any evidence. Just imagine if someone like that had taken over the country before we have this opportunity to clarify issues. One would say:”The PDOIS people are treacherous collaborators, hang them.” Another would say: “No that is not enough, they made the people to vote for a soldiers’ constitution, send him to the gallows.” Another would say: “Before they go, let me shave the hair of their Secretary General and keep it as a souvenir.”
History however will absolve us for fiction could only take the place of facts in fables and fairy tales. Let us therefore continue to interrogate the facts.
Five days after the consolidation of the power of the Coup makers, all past and present political figures were still silent, but PDOIS leaders were in the field defending fundamental rights and freedoms. We wrote the following to protect the rights of two former members of the Executive Council, namely, Captain Cham and Captain Sarr.....
SOURCE: Maafanta.com & Read More
2. ALSO MAAFANTA.COM WITH A REACTION (AN OPINION & ALLEGATIONS) In Response to Halipha by Sainey Sisay |
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Nov 2013 : 01:38:10
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The Halifa Sallah bashing continues with Dida Halake. Over to you sirs .
http://www.maafanta.com/didahalakerepublicrestore2
Halifa's crude logics continues to be exposed as lacking intellectual sophistication.
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I do not oppose unity but I oppose dumb union. |
Edited by - Nyarikangbanna on 05 Nov 2013 01:43:21 |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Nov 2013 : 04:00:53
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UPDATES FROM MAAFANTA.COM;
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 05 Nov 2013 : 04:15:40
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quote:
Originally posted by Nyarikangbanna
The Halifa Sallah bashing continues with Dida Halake. Over to you sirs .
http://www.maafanta.com/didahalakerepublicrestore2
Halifa's crude logics continues to be exposed as lacking intellectual sophistication.
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1. CERTAIN FACTS & DYNAMICS ARE AT PLAY AND ANALYSED TO REFUTE CERTAIN ALLEGATIONS AGAINST PDOIS/HALIFA SALLAH, GENERATE TRUTH FROM FALLACY BUT NOT ANALYSIS OF ANY "CRUDE LOGIC" OR "INTELLECTUAL SOPHISTICATION" AS ADDUCED BY YOU AND SOMEONE WITH PREDISPOSED VIEWPOINTS, PREJUDICES AND NEVER-ENDING ANIMOSITY AGAINST HALIFA SALLAH/PDOIS; TRYING TO PERSUADE US
2. Note on your statements as QUOTED above; that Dida Halake is an intelligent crafty spin doctor, deceitful, bent on averse advocacy and twisting Halifa's statements with different perspective or viewpoints; to denigrate Halifa Sallah/PDOIS. I don't need to remind you of this smart cunning spin doctor who was hired on his journalistic skills to served dictator Jammeh; he still revered as his friend, supporter of Jammeh and adored his leadership; WITHIN MIDST OF OPPOSITION FRONT SOWING SEEDS OF DISCORD
FOR EXAMPLE COMPARE THE SUBSTANCE OF THESE STATEMENTS TO JUSTIFY THEIR VIEWPOINTS;
HALIFA SATED: "Fatou,
Part 2B has provided irrefutable and indelible proof that PDOIS, the party that you referred to as a four percent party, was the only party that stood against Decree NO 4 which banned political expression and association thus negating the sovereignty of each Gambian. The PPP, with a 1992 Electoral support of 117, 549 voters, was not only unable to mobilise them to reverse the coup, but could not also rely on them to preserve its existence. The other opposition parties also could not survive Decree No 4 by relying on their Electoral numbers. What then is the use of electoral majority if it cannot be converted into people’s power to preserve the existence of a Party, and protect its leadership from political extinction.Hence, the moral authority of PDOIS had more weight than the electoral majority of the ruling party and its major opposition under Military rule."
"Now let us proceed to track PDOIS’ conduct after our trial, and we hope you will track the conduct of the other leaders past and present under military rule for posterity to have the raw material to write the history of the Gambia under military rule. Truth is necessary to write history under Military rul. History is built on the foundation of facts and not on fiction. We are therefore very glad that you have posed this challenge for us to inform the young of what actually happened during military rule, so that they would be able to separate the grain from the chaff. We hope the young people would read the articles and commentaries on our action in newspapers such as the Observer and the Point. The one entitled “Egg on a Rock” also used the same argument why a party with an insignificant electoral mandate would oppose Decree No 4. They made many derogatory remarks against our resistance to Decree No 4 and gave full support to the coup makers. We understand what it means to be up against the forces of two ruling parties at the same time. Our refusal to be an appendage of either force would eventually yield the desired results. We accept our fate until the people know the truth, then that truth shall set all of us free at last."
HALIFA'S STATEMENT ARE VERY EXPLICIT BUT IN CONTRAST WITH WHAT DIDA HALAKE CONCOCTED OR DOCTORED STATEMENTS AS FOLLOWS;
DIDA HALAKE STATED: "Dear Editor",
I must say that Halifa has served a bit more beef in his burger this time. I like the challenges of looking up Wikipedia to find what he means by all these heavy political terms – and try to work out how he applies it to the Gambian context of the post-1994 coup. Still, like all of you from that tiny river bank you call home, he cannot help but chide his siblings. He asks you, dear editor: “PDOIS, the party that you referred to as a four percent party ... What is the use of electoral majority if it cannot ... protect its leadership from political extinction ...”?
Of course, editor, your point was concerned with the PDOIS leaderships’ longevity under Jammeh-rule. I didn’t know that you referred to PDOIS as a “4%” party either – I thought the figure was actually 2%? (Could I offer a cheeky answer to your question, dear editor, and say that the 2% might explain PDOIS longevity? 2% is no threat to Jammeh’s 70%!!). Anyway, when Halifa asks “What is the use of electoral majority” he seems to be questioning his own foundation for the “sovereignty of the people” argument! “Electoral majority” did not protect President Morsi of Egypt from a military coup – but we have seen him today appear in a court of law from his prison and defiantly declare himself “the President” and bravely condemn the coup leaders that now rule Egypt (He is probably being tortured in his cell at this very moment for this defiance).
I think Halifa also gives you another clear answer as to why he has not been able to work with the UDP/PPP Opposition in The Gambia for all these years. He writes: “the moral authority of PDOIS had more weight than the electoral majority of the ruling party...We understand what it means to be up against the forces of two ruling parties at the same time ...”. That is telling, because it says that even under APRC rule, Halifa still saw PDOIS as fighting the PPP too."
I don't need to elaborate further as these two statements above between Halifa Sallah and Dida Halake because both are CONTRARY PROPOSITIONS apparently with different viewpoint! Same admonition applies with rest of Dida Halake's statements
FURTHERMORE NOTE CLEAR DIFFERENCE OF VIEWPOINTS ON THIS STATEMENT;
"We understand what it means to be up against the forces of two ruling parties at the same time ...”."
1. FOR DIDA HALAKE HAD IMPRESSION FROM HIS STATEMENTS THAT THE "TWO RULING PARTIES" REFERRED BY HALIFA SALLAH ARE PPP & AFPRC (MILITARY RULE); CLEARLY A FALLACY. ALSO LACKS CREDIBILITY TO SUPPORT HIS FALSE ALLEGATIONS ESPECIALLY TO JUSTIFY THIS STATEMENT THAT "I think Halifa also gives you another clear answer as to why he has not been able to work with the UDP/PPP Opposition in The Gambia for all these years."
2. BUT FOR HALIFA SALLAH HE DID NOT REFERRED TO PPP BUT IMPLY AFPRC (MILITARY RULE=THE BARREL OF THE GUN) & FOURTH ESTATE (MEDIA PROPAGANDA = AFPRC MEDIA PROPAGANDA MACHINERY) AS "TWO RULING PARTIES" VS PDOIS THAT THEY FOUGHT! A WHOLE PARAGARPH ARGUED ON DECREE 4. AND INTERVENTION OF PRO-GOVERNMENT OBSERVER AGAINST PDOIS & ITS LEADERS; WITHOUT ANY REFERENCE TO PPP
SAME WITH DIDA HALAKE PLAYING WITH "SOVEREIGNTY" & "REPUBLIC" DIFFERENT FROM EXPLICIT LINE OF THOUGHTS OF HALIFA SALLAH; APPROPRIATELY APPLIED IN ARGUING HIS CASE FOR PDOIS & HIMSELF FOR POSTERITY
3. In "Part 2B" Halifa Responds to Question No.1 from Fatou Jaw Manneh he stated that "Fatou, the day of the takeover is the most important phase of military rule.""All political figures past and present need to render account how they reacted to the takeover."
"We have given account of ourselves two days after the coup in the letter we wrote on 24 July, 1994. The letter provides incontestable evidence that we never abandoned the Republic and the Sovereign people in their time of greatest need. It reveals with overwhelming thoroughness that PDOIS was uncompromising in defending the sovereignty of the Republic and the sovereignty of the people."
4. "DID PDOIS SEEK COMFORT UNDER MILITARY RULE?" The answer is obvious BIG FAT NO; as no one can justify an act, claim, statement alleging that "PDOIS sought comfort under military rule" or are "seeking comfort" under existing status quo of Jammeh/APRC regime
And Halifa Sallah substantiated and supported his case well from his statements directed at Fatou's question(s), to vindicate PDOIS & its leaders (including himself) |
Edited by - kobo on 05 Nov 2013 15:42:28 |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 07 Nov 2013 : 04:56:00
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Maafanta.com with these interesting meaningful articles that engage, challenge, interrogates, addressing certain issues; including dissidents activism, vibrant radical online media propaganda, mobilisation, leadership, searching for options, strategies, way forward, political outlook and/or mainly rallying the opposition front; amongst other related issues and political trends through lense of a keen Gambian political observer; considered (in my opinion) relevant in this topic;
1. WE ARE IN THE BATTLE FOR IDEAS, NOT INSULTS By: ousainou Mbenga
The Gambia is a “nation” behind bars! And the debate that chief prison warden, Jammeh must go is over. We have entered the era of POSITIVE ACTION and nothing can turn us around. Even if this road to victory is littered with broken bottles and thorns, our will to endure is unshakable.
For those of us who have been paying attention to the crises in our beloved Gambia and the region in general; it should be obvious that insults (“haasteh”) will never replace thoughtful ideas as the solution to our national problem. The Jammeh regime is on the brink about to sink and no one in their right mind should attempt to rescue this monstrous tyrant.
It is during crises that fearless ideas turn into actions and make the most impact on the sensibilities of the people to fight back against repression. This battle requires passionate leaders driven by fearless ideas.....
SOURCE: Maafanta.com & Read More
2. ACTIVISM AND LEADERSHIP By Saloum Saloum
Comrades, Colleagues, Friends of The Gambia,
It is appropriate to state a disclaimer that the author is neither an expert in political activism nor knowledgeable in leadership studies. One thing I am aware of is that this topic is a very complex issue in view of the multi-faceted dimensions/factors in a struggle against dictatorship......
SOURCE: Maafanta.com & Read More |
Edited by - kobo on 07 Nov 2013 05:06:01 |
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