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Dalton1



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Posted - 04 Jan 2013 :  01:04:02  Show Profile  Visit Dalton1's Homepage Send Dalton1 a Private Message
A Critical Look at Facebook --Positive & negative


What do others think of Facebook? See below a piece by Alagi Yorro, formerly of the closed Independent Newspaper, Banjul.


http://caelos.com/gainako/?p=1863


"Amid all these various impacts of Facebook, it is evident that social media has blatanly obvious positives aspects and some surreal negative facets that get underplayed often. Though a majority of people generally focuses on and even brag about the positives, the negative impacts need to also be taken into account. Facebook liberates the common man to have his voice heard in an open platform and helps connect people across the world and across generations. In this process it provides individuals with an additional freedom to air their views on issues. However, this excessive overflow of information and connections can also have detrimental effects on personal lives and on the attitudes of individuals if it is not handled in a mature manner. As with everything in life, balance and wisdom are the key—this is as true of the virtual world as the real one. Only this balance and a mature democratic mindset can make the Facebook experience a worthwhile one, and more specifically, one that can bring about lastin, positive social and political change."Alagi Yorro Jallow

"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:

toubab1020



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Posted - 07 Jan 2013 :  11:50:20  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
[quote]Originally posted by Dalton1

A Critical Look at Facebook --Positive & negative


What do others think of Facebook?

Too much information,can that be bad? I think that in this instance it can be and agree with Yorro he highlighted an couple of horrific examples.I am not on facebook and quite frankly I think that it exposes one to all sorts of intrusions and unnecessary complications in peoples personal affairs,facebook I feel is akin to CCTV in towns and cities and a social engineering method of spying on everyone,The world of BIG BROTHER is here.
Have the predictions of George Orwell in his book 1984 come true NOW ?
http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Dalton1



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Posted - 07 Jan 2013 :  18:03:22  Show Profile  Visit Dalton1's Homepage Send Dalton1 a Private Message
Toubab:

Thank you for your rejoinder. Interesting read on Orwell.

Best of 2013,
Yero

quote:
"Orwell provides compelling reasons for the people of the 21st century to, much as we did in the 60's, question authority. Winston holds these thoughts dear but because of how society has been allowed to evolve he must be careful with even his own thoughts. You'll go with him as he meets Julia and as, against all odds, develops a relationship. Surprises abound in this unique and, at the time it was written, futuristic look at a world that has allowed itself to be taken over by an entity that we know even today as Big Brother. You'll find yourself asking how this man who wrote the novel in 1948 could possibly have such foresight into what would evolve into the world as we know it today. Similarities between life as we know it and life as Orwell foresaw abound. The book will cause you to look around yourself and question the policies of our government and the policies of global governments and how they impact our daily life. Definitely a compelling read !--Submitted by Anonymous."

"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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toubab1020



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Posted - 07 Jan 2013 :  19:26:16  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Thought U might like that

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

Edited by - toubab1020 on 07 Jan 2013 19:27:15
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Dalton1



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Posted - 07 Jan 2013 :  19:46:51  Show Profile  Visit Dalton1's Homepage Send Dalton1 a Private Message
I must confess that I am preserved on facebook a lot. I only signed up recently to trace some old high school friends I needed to get connected to.

There is a lot of information compromise...


Thanks Toubab and best wishes for 2013.

Yero

"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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toubab1020



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Posted - 07 Jan 2013 :  21:23:51  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Thanks, and a Happy New Year to you and ALL Bantabarians

quote:
Originally posted by Dalton1

I must confess that I am preserved on facebook a lot. I only signed up recently to trace some old high school friends I needed to get connected to.

There is a lot of information compromise...


Thanks Toubab and best wishes for 2013.

Yero


"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

Edited by - toubab1020 on 07 Jan 2013 21:24:16
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Momodou



Denmark
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Posted - 07 Jan 2013 :  22:03:32  Show Profile Send Momodou a Private Message
---quote------------
"Modern communication with the Internet and Facebook has tremendous potential, but there are also dangers associated with it. The very young can be so busy that they virtually live in cyberspace that reality is lived on other hand in a kind of show window, where that more is important to look than about being itself. But the young must reach to be themselves, not only as a group but as the individuals they are. We must help them, not by clearing every stone on their way, but by instilling them believe in themselves so that they can succeed in life." - The Queen of Denamrk's speech to the nation on December 31st 2012.
---------------end quote----------

A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone
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toubab1020



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Posted - 08 Jan 2013 :  19:51:48  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
I knew nothing about the Queen of Denmark,so after reading Momodou's posting,I thought I had better find out:


http://www.nettyroyal.nl/denmark2.html

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

Edited by - toubab1020 on 08 Jan 2013 19:53:10
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Dalton1



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Posted - 08 Jan 2013 :  20:56:16  Show Profile  Visit Dalton1's Homepage Send Dalton1 a Private Message
Toubab,

Nice forward from Momodou, but funny how the queen of Denmark which I know nothing about comes to preach youths about the use of the social networking/internet. While she had good points, but the larger question remains, especially in this day and age, we are still talking about kings and queens. See, she better be lucky that some youths might not hit back at her jibes.

Humor aside, I am wholly against this whole idea of kings, queens, monarchry, etc...it rubs the average man the opportunity to participate in leadership. I sincerely believe that leadership should be base on capability rather than inheritence through kings and queens. A king or queen is by default (historical accident) and not selected by the majority.By virtue of the respect given to them, they try to look impressive, inspirational, affectionate, etc....

When a hardworking person continues to pay taxes and some other benefits to someone supposedly his or her leader, who continues to give birth to leaders in generations, while he/she the poor person continues to struggle and so his/her generations. I see some unfairness if rules of nature are to go by.

I know we are used to some of these things and our minds are forced to accept them by default. It is really unfortunate. I hope at some point in life, a generation of people will rise that will do away with all forms of monarchry, just like the Arab Spring swept some of those old dictators that stationed themselves as messiahs.

A clear point to learn from the Prophet Muhammad's (PBUH) leadership is that he was in fact not inherited by a family member. Leadership in Islam is not confined to the Prophet's family members rather the deciples who showed capability of leading.

Momodou, I had access to some of the works of Thomas Paine. I would reccommend it for reading.

Thanks
Yero



"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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Dalton1



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Posted - 08 Jan 2013 :  21:17:17  Show Profile  Visit Dalton1's Homepage Send Dalton1 a Private Message
And the queen of England continues to enjoy with her line of successors....but King George took hostage of America until the American heroes took charge of their destiny, leading to independence. George Washington (first president) could have been charged with treason.

I celebrated 2012's new year in Sweden (Stockholm) next to the King's palace called 'Kunsta garden'....excuse the wrong spelling. This place was full of nice waters around, with decorations, plants, etc....I couldn't help my jealousy.

The point is we are thought that wrong cannot be rewarded with good. I am not trying to blow the whole idea of kings and queens out of proportion, I am just saying that some of the history associated with how it started shows that people get rewarded for participating in some wars, dominating other lands and people, in fact with force.

Thanks
Yero

"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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Momodou



Denmark
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Posted - 08 Jan 2013 :  22:02:39  Show Profile Send Momodou a Private Message
The speech is written for her in consultation with the Goverment. The monarchs in Scandinavia have only ceremonial roles. It is their history not mine.

You are right, you should have seen the reactions to the remarks in the papers and internet blogs.
I agree with the points raised regarding Facebook. Having been on the Internet since 1996, I know how addictive it can be. We have seen cyber heros who come and go and sometimes one wonders which world they are living in.

By the way although there are monarchies in Denmark, Norway and Sweden they are more democratic than America where you only have two political parties. There are over ten parties that participate in elections and colition governments with two or more parties is very normal.

A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone
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toubab1020



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Posted - 08 Jan 2013 :  22:47:34  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Momodou in the post above wrote:

"By the way although there are monarchies in Denmark, Norway and Sweden they are more democratic than America where you only have two political parties. There are over ten parties that participate in elections and colition governments with two or more parties is very normal."

A great rejoinder to DALTON 1's words.

I should like to raise another point about kings and queens, DALTON 1 wrote,

"it rubs the average man the opportunity to participate in leadership. I sincerely believe that leadership should be base on capability rather than inheritence through kings and queens. A king or queen is by default (historical accident) and not selected by the majority.By virtue of the respect given to them, they try to look impressive, inspirational, affectionate, etc...."

What is required of a king or queen is not ,leadership,it is guidance,akin to a father or mother to a nation,someone who has the respect of their children,in this case, the politicians and the population of a Nation,by reason of the succession of kings and queens experience of dealing with all types of people has been gained and handed on,in my opinion a superior system to other types of "leadership" that exist elsewhere.
If you want to be a leader in a group of people you must demonstrate your ability to be, fair, just, honest, not greedy and not be a bully in order to get your own way in everything.


"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

Edited by - toubab1020 on 08 Jan 2013 22:54:32
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Dalton1



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Posted - 08 Jan 2013 :  23:03:05  Show Profile  Visit Dalton1's Homepage Send Dalton1 a Private Message
Momodou, since your dad (RIP) was a WW2 veteran as you posted a while back, these kings owe you some change. (LOL).


Humor aside, Great points, no doubt! Internet is very addictive....especially facebook. The queen of Denmark too, her majesty, made great points. The new generation is blessed with vast technological empowerment which can be detrimental.

I do not know much about the leadership style in Scandanavia. The idea of kings and queens though scare me a lot. In America, no kings or queens, (LOL). Now, you choose which one is better!

Humor aside, America had some bad apples like George Bush II, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, etc...but you will agree that America's democracy is truly one in the universe.

Thanks for sharing though....

Best,
Yero


"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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Dalton1



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Posted - 08 Jan 2013 :  23:08:52  Show Profile  Visit Dalton1's Homepage Send Dalton1 a Private Message
quote:
What is required of a king or queen is not ,leadership,it is guidance,akin to a father or mother to a nation,someone who has the respect of their children,in this case, the politicians and the population of a Nation,by reason of the succession of kings and queens experience of dealing with all types of people has been gained and handed on,in my opinion a superior system to other types of "leadership" that exist elsewhere.
If you want to be a leader in a group of people you must demonstrate your ability to be, fair, just, honest, not greedy and not be a bully in order to get your own way in everything , Toubab


Toubab, thanks!

If you are tired of paying money to Lizy queen (her majesty) with due respect to her love, humbleness and inspirations, find some where else to go....laughs!

Thanks for the explanation. Walahi, I just don't like the idea of kings and queens. Anyway, the motherly part is all sweet, but must be allowed to choose mothers/fathers that will represent them.

Anyway, I am out of here....before this internet gets me late for business. I like the humor part. I think there are some conflicts between the old generation and the new generations.

Best,
Yero

"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:

Edited by - Dalton1 on 08 Jan 2013 23:13:43
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toubab1020



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Posted - 09 Jan 2013 :  02:24:36  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Dalton1, think you are right this topic is getting a little jaded,time for bed,lucky I am off tomorrow

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

Edited by - toubab1020 on 09 Jan 2013 02:24:52
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Momodou



Denmark
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Posted - 09 Jan 2013 :  08:00:36  Show Profile Send Momodou a Private Message
I quit as the topic is already off topic.

A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone
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