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Karamba



United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Jan 2012 :  21:45:30  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message
President Jammeh warned that he will get more dangerous in next five years than he was as an army officer at time of his unlawful raping of state power. These are his exact words:


"I will be more dangerous in the next five years than when I was, even in uniform, because people have to change their attitude to work," he said on state TV, promising that people would see "a different Yahya Jammeh." "I will wipe out almost 82 percent of those in the work force in the next five years starting this Friday (tomorrow) unless they change their attitudes," he said without elaborating.

"Also the next five years will see more people going to jail because there will be zero tolerance on corruption and drugs. We will not compromise the security of this country in the interest of the few."

http://news.yahoo.com/gambias-jammeh-cracks-whip-ahead-fourth-term-005421634.html

Karamba

toubab1020



12311 Posts

Posted - 19 Jan 2012 :  22:03:29  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Karamba, H.E. has apparently said:

"people have to change their attitude to work,"

I Totally AGREE with that !

I am afraid that I have not been able to view any TV on the Web. I will have to await reports in the Gambian press tomorrow.

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Karamba



United Kingdom
3820 Posts

Posted - 19 Jan 2012 :  22:24:27  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message
Toubab1020,
Chief is ready to fire down. Not stopping at that. He will send more public servants to jail. That is worrying.

To say he will be more dangerous suggests that he was already very dangerous.

Karamba
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toubab1020



12311 Posts

Posted - 19 Jan 2012 :  23:39:34  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Karamba,
I love the Gambia and Gambians,do not get me wrong, BUT it is now 2012 and it's long overdue for ALL Gambians to realise that HONESTY, CLARITY,NEPOTISM, AND WORK for a liveable WAGE/SALARY for a good days work, exists in MOST of the world, if Gambia and Gambians want to join the world of 2012 with mobile phones, smart phones,TV,cars, then Gambians MUST change and stop living in the times of their great great grandfathers.Very sorry to have to write what I have but it is true.

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

Edited by - toubab1020 on 19 Jan 2012 23:43:23
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Karamba



United Kingdom
3820 Posts

Posted - 20 Jan 2012 :  00:28:03  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message
So Toubab1020 in your view, everyone else has to change attitude but chief man stays the same. That is my tiny way of seeing. Help me please.

Karamba
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toubab1020



12311 Posts

Posted - 20 Jan 2012 :  12:01:05  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Karamba,I understand what you are saying,my comments relate to GAMBIA as a country and my own observations of the Average Gambian MALE who apparently cannot see or want any improvement to the existence he has,I make no comment on the conduct of the "Chief man" which is well known and discussed at length elsewhere on bantaba .

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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gambiabev

United Kingdom
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Posted - 21 Jan 2012 :  11:24:09  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
Many many people in Gambia don't have the opportunity to do paid work because there is not enough employment opportunities.

To me it seems that the women in the family work really hard doing all the domestic chores and raising the children.

The traditional mans role of bringing home the fish money is hard to do with no official paid job.

The men I know who have got jobs seem to work hard. The difficultly is they are expected to support so many people form their one small wage. It is a lot of pressure.

The President needs to focus on generating jobs and let the employer monitor his workers effort level. He is too interfering. The threatening nature of his comments sounds very ominous.
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toubab1020



12311 Posts

Posted - 21 Jan 2012 :  13:13:35  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Gambiabev,I agree, women have a work ethic (for want of a better phrase !) and work hard uncomplainingly, most of the work is work that is expected of them to do for free,leaving the man to be the breadwinner,as you say there are few jobs available so the men get totally despondent and lose the will to work preferring to sit and drink attaya with their friends.Men with jobs have a problem which men without jobs do not have as you write,"The difficultly is they are expected to support so many people form their one small wage. It is a lot of pressure." It is my observation that in MANY compounds there is only one person who has a job and he feels obliged to feed many other people there who have no job,to him all he has is the glow of doing something good,but he is exactly the same position as all the others he then has no money and he is working long hours for small wages for what? Must this man work all his life for others in the compound who show no wish to find a job before he dies!
Gambiabev you write"The President needs to focus on generating jobs and let the employer monitor his workers effort level." Yes,but he too is now totally frustrated with with the attitude of MANY Gambian men,who have no wish to change and improve the country,what can he do ? He has tried words and suggestions,result nothing,he is now trying a different tactic, the carrot has gone now the stick will come,will that work? personally I don't think so,Will Gambian society change? Personally I don't think it will and will remain forever ,what you see is what you get.

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  16:47:02  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
THE POINT NATIONAL NEWS;

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toubab1020



12311 Posts

Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  17:32:51  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
http://thepoint.gm/africa/gambia/article/jammeh-threatens-major-crackdown-in-new-term

Well......................what can any one say to that speech ?

As for my comments and observations being a toubab I will wait to read what Gambian readers of Bantaba say, that's only fair.2012 is the year of the Dragon for the Chinese .
Last year was the year of the carrot for Gambia this year is going to be the year of the ..... for Gambia.!


"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

Edited by - toubab1020 on 24 Jan 2012 22:52:24
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Janko

Gambia
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Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  18:05:29  Show Profile  Visit Janko's Homepage Send Janko a Private Message
Interestingly, women do work harder, or rather, do more than men in keeping society well all over the globe,Gambia is not an exception.

The good news is change does not wait for no one, but it is when it comes and can't be stopped not even by wishful thinking.

Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy
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toubab1020



12311 Posts

Posted - 24 Jan 2012 :  18:33:49  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Yea yea............even though I am a bloke,I agree with you


"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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toubab1020



12311 Posts

Posted - 25 Jan 2012 :  10:56:27  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
I hope that politicos of all shades will post on this topic,or is the reason that they have chosen not so to do,is that they agree with the content of H.E.s speech and the policies contained therein?
Come on politicos POST.!!!

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

Edited by - toubab1020 on 25 Jan 2012 10:57:16
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Lily

United Kingdom
422 Posts

Posted - 25 Jan 2012 :  11:47:12  Show Profile Send Lily a Private Message
Not sure what a politico is - but:
Surely Gambians are no different from any other human beings. There are many (men and women) who work exceptionally hard. There are very many (men and women) who yearn to work and to provide a better life for their families. There are very few men who kust sit around and do nothing all day because that's what they want to do. Poverty is grinding.
So I totally agree with Bev that Yammeh should look to his people and look to find ways of generating jobs
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toubab1020



12311 Posts

Posted - 25 Jan 2012 :  15:39:22  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Lily,

"There are very few men who kust sit around and do nothing all day because that's what they want to do. Poverty is grinding. "

"Poverty is grinding." everybody knows that Lily and there should not be poverty,by the same token if you have always been in poverty and have not tried to get yourself out of poverty then remain in that position for long enough and you think that this is all there is and become despondent and EXPECT SOMEONE TO HELP YOU why should they when you yourself have taken no action? You yourself must have been approached by men with some crackpot scheme that will make you rich if you invest or someone who says I am sick I have a prescription here and have no money. I cannot believe that you have not seen many groups of men in Gambia just sitting drinking attaya and chatting,do they want to exist like that ? yes, because they have known nothing else,the lucky ones have gone overseas to find work,yes risked their lives and freedom in doing so,some men have fallen in "love" and married and moved abroad as husbands.

There is poverty in the UK you and I know that,we also know that there are people who are quite content to live on handouts from the government because they can get more money if they don't work than if they work,who pays for these shirkers ?the taxpayer,(ie those who work)

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Lily

United Kingdom
422 Posts

Posted - 25 Jan 2012 :  18:02:16  Show Profile Send Lily a Private Message
Not at all sure we are on the right forum here toubab - so apologies to everyone else.

Of course I've been approached by men with some scheme or another - at least they are trying to make some money for their families!!

If there is no work: there is no work. How does someone get out of poverty if they have no education and no skills? And there are no jobs? You make it sound so simple. If sitting and drinking tea is a way of escaping then so what? But you can't seriously believe that the majority are content to be poor, want to have no work, want to hustle toursits or indeed want to marry a white woman. What they want is work, self respect and a means of helping their families. Just like the majority of people in any society. Unless there are possibilities for work then begging, scrounging, marrying tourists, drinking tea is all that's left to do.

People who do not work in the UK are not generally shirkers ( a few might be but the majority aren't). I don't buy that stereotype any more than I buy the stereotype of the idle African!

You make it sound as if everyone you meet (here and in The Gambia) is somehow a scrounger and after your money. Not my experience at all!
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