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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
 Posted - 18 Aug 2011 : 17:56:46
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Karamba
I am not questioning your concern for Gambia. I am questioning your methodology. I am assessing you based on your writings. One example would be to call western power to take military operation to remove Jammeh. That is not exactly something I would support. That is actually a betrayal to Gambian nation. Did you or did you not call this? |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Aug 2011 : 18:20:17
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Turk, while I would not want to see blood spilling on Gambian roads from violence, it is not my business if any Gambian chooses to use the brutal forceful means to dislodge a tyrannical dictator if that's what you care to know.
Gambians have all rights to recover the nation from more than 17 years brutal dictatorship. How they choose doing that is none of my concern. If Jammeh refuses to go by reason, others have better ways of showing him the way he deserves. Again, that's none of my business. They have their rights.
You sit there beating about is up to you. I have no business about how you think.
Here's a gentle reminder that this thread sought to expose the dubious conduct of a rogue president buying property in America with faked names to mask his true ID. This same man staged a coup in 1994 claiming there was too much corruption he came to fight. Now he is more corrupt than the word.
Your jumping about will not cause the slightest distraction. People are far too attentive to permit your lame tricks of derailing. |
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Edited by - Karamba on 18 Aug 2011 19:02:17 |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 18 Aug 2011 : 18:45:19
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OK turk, I give up you, are playing at semantics , I really think that you are excellent at your job.
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Originally posted by turk
"any opposition party to bring better alternative."
does not mean, current admin is equal to opposition. When it says better, that means better policies/more creative ideas than current administration.
"they are the same as the existing administration"
Touby
Same as existing administration (they are your words), does not mean they are exactly equal. The opposition focus in 'human rights' and 'political rights' and I do not believe that is better priorities than the current administration's priority of 'development'. Because, first of all, I do not think Gambians are demanding/needing 'human rights' and 'political rights' as much as 'development and wealth generation'. Opposition, mainly UDP, has an hidden agenda. The demand for 'human rights' and 'democratic rights' are just the agenda on the surface.
The opposition hidden agenda as mainly UDP does not offer any solution, simply they want to change the regime because of their wanting power. The previous admin was mandinka dominated. Jammeh took the power from them. Now UDP motivation to take back the power. It is kind of revenge. One of the motivation of UDP to make 'mandinka' the majority tribe to take power. I have talked to many Gambians. Many of Mandinkas raised the issue that they are the majority in Gambia approximately 40 percent, but they do not have their power reflected in the government. They may be right. The numbers should be equally reflected, but their motivation is to take over. Power corrupt people. And the power change could present very risky situations when the new government transforming. That are bitter. I would want the current admin to change, if there is an alternative to provide better government. Not for the sake of the power transfer from one to another, just for the sake of one particular group getting the power from other.
And when power change, there could be instability in Gambia if the change is motivated based on the tribe/power relations. The competition of power vacuum is dangerous. The first thing that will happen to fire all the Jolas from the government/army and recruit their own man. Most mandinkas are today complaining about injustice. They might have a point if they were sincerely believe the injustice regardless of tribe, but I am not sure if they would be just if they had the power, and try to bring their own man.
I think only Halifa Sallah is motivated for providing solutions. But he is not understood well, his ideology/programs ideas are too advance for Gambian public.
So, I believe as since opposition is not providing better policies to make Gambia better, I go with the principle of going with the devil you know.
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Aug 2011 : 19:36:04
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Originally posted by Karamba
Turk, again you wrote:
"As I mentioned that hundreds time, your political IQ, your heart is not there to be effective. Your methodology is basically 'smear campaign', 'character assassination', 'calling for foreign military intervention. And doing this especially disgusting while you are hiding in the bush."
Total speculation!! You have no clue to begin with Turk. Unlike you who make passing judgements without a tinge of reasoning, I and many fair minded contributors here and elsewhere have reasons. You perceive me as opposition to Jammeh. Due to your professional inadequacies it is just impossible for you to appreciate rational motivation. I care nothing about Jammeh. All my comments are about his terribly bad deeds and deceptive schemes and how that impacts on total welfare of Gambians.
You are the most untruthful person to have germinated on the surface of this planet. How do you get to these unfounded conclusions so fallaciously stuck in your twisted mind? Turk, you are totally impaired beyond redemption. No doubt you gyrate about without gaining an inroad.
Not just for your mini self, but to the full bunch of anyone thinking alike with you, I do not care about Jammeh. My focus is on Gambia. You mix yourself up and want to convey that all around. Your contaminated opinion is purely yours and keeping it is no harm to me.
Sadly, your deliberate bias is nothing I have any cure for. Keep riding on.
Karamba, would it not be better if you don't reply at all. He isn't going to get it. He is of a different spiece
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 18 Aug 2011 : 20:37:41
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| My duty to expose nyari. What is its promised position if UDP gets elected? I need to expose the intention of tribal base group that has wishes nothing but taking power. One calls for colonial master to intervene, other seek asylum in Senegal embassy. To me, you are Gambia's public enemy number one. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Janko
Gambia
1267 Posts |
Posted - 18 Aug 2011 : 23:58:00
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Originally posted by turk
... So why surprise about Jammeh practice and further most people believe his fake medicine.
As you can see the problem is not Jammeh it is the people.
turk,whose "fake medicine"? |
Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy |
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Janko
Gambia
1267 Posts |
Posted - 19 Aug 2011 : 01:44:22
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quote:
Originally posted by turk
.... focus in 'human rights' and 'political rights' … is (not) better than the priority of 'development'. … I do not think Gambians …need ‘human rights' and 'political rights' as much as 'development and wealth generation'. ...
... The previous admin was mandinka dominated. …
Misleading notions, fallacies, myths, sweeping statements having no other values than speculative- agitation. |
Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 19 Aug 2011 : 02:45:11
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Janko
'I' and 'think' refers as opinion. Did I say 'I' 'state'?
This is a debate. It is opinion. You don't have to agree. That is what is called debate. This is not mathematical equation. What is your problem? You just disagree. Or provide your 'counter-opinion'.
Let me help you Janko.
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.... focus in 'human rights' and 'political rights' … is OR IS NOT better than the priority of 'development'. … I DO THINK Gambians …need ‘human rights' and 'political rights' as much as 'development and wealth generation'. ...
... The previous admin WAS NOT mandinka dominated. …
I am perfectly fine with above statements. I don't agree, IN MY OPINION IT IS WRONG, but I can accept it as an argument. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 19 Aug 2011 02:55:10 |
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Kitabul Arerr
Gambia
645 Posts |
Posted - 19 Aug 2011 : 02:47:04
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OK! Guys & Girls, lets stay focused..................................................L L!
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The New Gambia - Stronger Together! |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 19 Aug 2011 : 02:51:16
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Originally posted by Janko
quote:
Originally posted by turk
... So why surprise about Jammeh practice and further most people believe his fake medicine.
As you can see the problem is not Jammeh it is the people.
turk,whose "fake medicine"?
Jammeh's fake medicine. Is there any scientific research or any study that Jammeh's HIV medicine works? I did not know that. If there is enlighten me.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 19 Aug 2011 02:52:25 |
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