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turk
USA
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 Posted - 25 Jul 2011 : 19:43:10
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Janko
What are the root cause(s) of high child mortality rate in Gambia comparing to low rate in Norway?
And what is the root cause(s) of political human rights abuses?
Can you just briefly outline the most important ones? |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 25 Jul 2011 : 20:54:30
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"Of course he is curing something and small dembis should go see him for his erectile dysfunction and so should you Touby"
MOE.
No need Viagra does the trick I am sure without making you very very ill. should dembis and myself have any need for such medication of course.
Better than drinking this concoction I bet 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/19/gambia-witchcraft-hallucinogenics   |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Kitabul Arerr
Gambia
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Posted - 25 Jul 2011 : 21:57:25
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I'm baffled, my dear Moe. Nice piece though, but it's the Buts and Ifs or Maybes
"...my opinions on the Presidential term limit kinda varies depending..."
"...I have to admit that the Gambian Constitution needs total reform and amendments but..."
"...Jammeh should eventually relinquish power and as you already know I would be the first to advocate for a presidential term limit if..."
"...President Jammeh knew what the PPP did and how they overstayed and never planned on relinquishing power due to the nature of the political landscape, He planned on changing this fact no doubt in my mind but..."
"...No doubt in my mind Jammeh must prepare for an exit plan come 2016...most don't like the slow pace but..."
The problem, Moe, is "the Ifs and Buts or Maybes". Too deceptive, with due respect.............LL!
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The New Gambia - Stronger Together! |
Edited by - Kitabul Arerr on 25 Jul 2011 22:03:17 |
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toubab1020
12312 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jul 2011 : 23:33:31
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Kitabul Arerr ,I am very sorry to say that both Moe and turk are not allowed to have their own opinions they MUST try to cause descent among politicos and anyone else who inhabits Bantaba in cyberspace by any means they can,both are intellegent and not at all stupid but the stuff they spout does not make any sense at all,your last post proves that,if they were to leave bantaba, what would be left ? no entertainment,no body posting anything, except the politicos on the ever increasing speed of the never ending circle of repetions in the never ending circle of Gambian politics,which looks like going on forever until it implodes due to being unbalanced and totally confused forgetting where the start of the circle actually was. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Moe
USA
2326 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jul 2011 : 23:35:57
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The If's, But's and maybe's and it depends spells what I am eluding to, There are Valid reasons why Jammeh MUST be allowed to govern till 2020. They are valid arguments Kitab, Too many if's and but's but it is the reality JAH...................................Peacequote:
Originally posted by Kitabul Arerr
I'm baffled, my dear Moe. Nice piece though, but it's the Buts and Ifs or Maybes
"...my opinions on the Presidential term limit kinda varies depending..."
"...I have to admit that the Gambian Constitution needs total reform and amendments but..."
"...Jammeh should eventually relinquish power and as you already know I would be the first to advocate for a presidential term limit if..."
"...President Jammeh knew what the PPP did and how they overstayed and never planned on relinquishing power due to the nature of the political landscape, He planned on changing this fact no doubt in my mind but..."
"...No doubt in my mind Jammeh must prepare for an exit plan come 2016...most don't like the slow pace but..."
The problem, Moe, is "the Ifs and Buts or Maybes". Too deceptive, with due respect.............LL!
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I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
Edited by - Moe on 25 Jul 2011 23:37:06 |
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Moe
USA
2326 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jul 2011 : 00:07:49
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You ar just retarded Touby and Turk is Your Medicine, modern day "Koubeyjarra", We ain't going nowhere and you're nobody to justify who stays and what is said you're a Toubab for Gods sake on a Gambian forum, tak the back seat Whitey or Blacky.............................Peacequote:
Originally posted by toubab1020
Kitabul Arerr ,I am very sorry to say that both Moe and turk are not allowed to have their own opinions they MUST try to cause descent among politicos and anyone else who inhabits Bantaba in cyberspace by any means they can,both are intellegent and not at all stupid but the stuff they spout does not make any sense at all,your last post proves that,if they were to leave bantaba, what would be left ? no entertainment,no body posting anything, except the politicos on the ever increasing speed of the never ending circle of repetions in the never ending circle of Gambian politics,which looks like going on forever until it implodes due to being unbalanced and totally confused forgetting where the start of the circle actually was.
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I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
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turk
USA
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Janko
Gambia
1267 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jul 2011 : 22:09:39
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turk, understand me well
I am not confirming or refuting in any ones favor but curious about the reliability of your argument that equates "deaths due to low mortality rate (A)" with "death due to political human rights violations (B)".
Why
A = Death as much as B
AD is as big as BD
No death is better than the other therefore no death is more preferable than the other. Death is death and is death the context does not change death. |
Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jul 2011 : 23:05:20
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Janko
Try to see the big picture. I don't think I have ever claim that a death as a single unit is better than another death of another single unit. Your claim of
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No death is better than the other therefore no death is more preferable than the other. Death is death and is death the context does not change death.
is irrelevant to my argument. Because that is not what I am focusing on. I am focusing on the impact of deaths as plural group. Not as a single unit. You are ignoring the point of 'number of deaths' vs 'number of deaths' in practical terms.
Death A is equal Death B. (There are some exceptions to this as well. Imagine a 6 months old baby death vs 90 years old person death, but that is not really matters for this topic)
The number of child Mortality deaths = X
The number of political violation related deaths = Y
If X = 500
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Y = 5
The impact of X is 100 times greater than the impact of Y. As a Government Manager, I would be careful to balance out my resources accordingly. Here is the question I have for you.
For above scenario. If you have a 505 dalasi budget to spent as a public service manager, do you spent your budget equally both on combating child mortality and political rights related death. Or you would consider their impact?
Politics is all about priority. Would you focus on to reduce the price of diamond in Gambia, or reduce the price of tapalapa. As a public manager do you invest your resources to protect polar bear in Gambia or crocodile. Or do you invest your public money for research center for space station for Gambian astronomy or research center for agriculture.
So, do you think 'child mortality deaths' vs 'political right death' when considering their impact is reliable logic now?
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 26 Jul 2011 23:46:35 |
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Janko
Gambia
1267 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jul 2011 : 23:49:34
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turk,
My point has nothing to do with numbers hence one single death is one too many.
Remember the cause of low infant mortality is related to the general health care standard, whiles the cause of death due to political oppression is related to the very government that allocates resources. So, a child who survives infant death can die later on due to political oppression.
But before answering your question clarify the difference between;
1) Causality of death due to political oppression
2) Death due to political oppression
3) Political violation related death
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Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jul 2011 : 00:03:11
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Janko
I understand your point has nothing to do with numbers with the exception of one death = another death. I think we have agreement of the death due to political right and death due to low health standard. But you utterly recognize my point that 'number of deaths' due to low standard has more impact on society therefore, that should be more priority of people's energy. What is politics. Politics is all about to take position. And taking position must be based on not only ideals, ideologies, theories but also practical needs, priorities and realities. Don't you think?
Instead of death of 500 childs per year, I would rather save them, because only a few of them will die due to political violation later on.
I like numbers coming from the background of computer science and mathematics. I am interested in knowing number of death in Gambia because of these three kinds of death causes. How bad it is?
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
1350 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jul 2011 : 18:17:50
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| celebrating July22nd is a disgrace for all Gambians.This was a day when democracy was shackled and chained. If Jammeh is a real democrat he would have respected Gambians and not celebrate a day he rebelled against Gambians and up on all Gambians voted for him choosing him to lead. He should have been charged for treason for toppling a democratically ellected regime. |
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