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Moe
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 Posted - 16 Jul 2011 : 23:33:08
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Thats after escorting you back to "Kampama" I figured you escaped ...................Peace |
I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Jul 2011 : 00:09:08
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And then Turk fired these cool bullets:
"I am not here to impress anyone including you, anna, touby whoever. I don't give a damn what you think of me"
Not seeking to pass hasty judgement, that statement spells fury. Are you on the verge of losing your gentleman heart. That you "don't give a damn" say so much.
But yes, Turk, you have a right to personal opinion in no lesser ways that anyone else shares those same rights. Why then must you or your good people feel offended ?
Pass on your stock and permit others to make a choice. More than which you will be seen forcing good food down the throat of fully fed people. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 17 Jul 2011 : 01:26:23
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Not at all Tanka Tanka has professional people who know their business they will treat you well and you probably can intergrate into society again and be good people.
Kampama is old time and didn't progress into any modern development.
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Thats after escorting you back to "Kampama" I figured you escaped...................Peace
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Moe
USA
2326 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2011 : 01:46:27
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I will tell you why Tanka Tanka is on another article that I have been procastinating on writing, Meanwhile I will go to Tanka Tanka but you will be taken to the Marabout that beats the devil out of possessed Men.
If you choose Tanka Tanka, only opposite cells will work or I will knock you out every chance I get, according to your avatar you can be quiet noisy and incoherent............................Peace |
I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2011 : 02:15:26
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The truth remains as it always has been; that a person could not cause so much havoc to ordinary and well meaning people yet loudly pronouncing peace.
Yaya Jammeh has no sane reason for holding the whole nation of Gambia hostage for 17 years and preach peace. That is the mother of all contradiction. Real revolutionaries are not oppressive. True revolution is not where innocent citizens are buried six feet deep for expressing simple opinion. Good advocates of peace will not be loitering about the wider space of Bantaba throwing daggers at simple people for having disagreed with wrongful imposing of unreasonable will over whole society.
A just leader would not sit to watch thugs parading the universe at neck breaking hostility towards normal people in all the time. A truly fair leader will not break laws and threaten voters they will have no development should they choose unseating him by free will.
Where then is sanity in Gambia ? |
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Moe
USA
2326 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2011 : 02:21:25
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| You said Yahya Jammeh so many times that your mouth now looks like Yahya Jammeh, You're just a typical fool Karamba with no direction no matter how hard you try to come out correct the Hater in you overwhelms everything you say or do and ya'll aint simple, more like clandestine figures.........................Peace |
I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2011 : 13:22:20
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To pursue a reasoned exchange requires capacity. There is something that needs getting clear. Gambia as a nation can never turn into the body and soul of one person. Although Yaya placed himself in a situations that bears semblance to reducing the nation to his personal estate, reason prevails that Gambia is still Gambia.
The name Yaya comes up many times due largely to how takes the country hostage. In 17 years, he placed Gambia on wrong side of the globe. That is enough to earn him the name he now hangs about.
Ask me how much I care about Jammeh. My answer is nix. I only mention him because he glues his nose to the soil of our nation and floats in the sea and river. That is how the name Yaya comes up so often.
No matter how much he tries, Gambia will be without Yaya some fine day. This is not a nation made for or by him. |
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turk
USA
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Posted - 17 Jul 2011 : 14:17:30
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Yes it requires capacity but you do not have the capacity. Your argument is "jammeh" and only "jammeh". You ignore all the points people bring. You don't have capacity to link Gambians' problem its social, economic, historical facts. For example, you have never addressed the the biggest obstacle of Gambia
1. Less than 20 percent functional literacy. You never addressed this issue I raised.
2. Poverty that African nations do not have financial resources to establish a state which requires money. You never address this issue.
3. Lack of tradition, culture, history about good governance. You never addressed this issue.
Did you address any of these issues. BIG NO. Why? Before Jammeh came to power, Gambia had the some problems. Most African nations around the region have the same problems. They don't have Jammeh. Has it ever occurred to you that there are other obstacle for having good governance in Gambia? I don't think it has. That is your failure. Your argument is not based on social and political science. It is just rhetoric. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 17 Jul 2011 : 14:21:26
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Thanks for that MOE,I am pleased that you are a little calmer now,Hmmmmm my Avatar, again you are correct it is too violent,but it has been there for so long now, I am a bit traditionalist .I will be sure to wear my charms around my middle when I meet up with YOUR Marabout.
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Originally posted by Moe
I will tell you why Tanka Tanka is on another article that I have been procastinating on writing, Meanwhile I will go to Tanka Tanka but you will be taken to the Marabout that beats the devil out of possessed Men.
If you choose Tanka Tanka, only opposite cells will work or I will knock you out every chance I get, according to your avatar you can be quiet noisy and incoherent............................Peace
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2011 : 16:14:40
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Turk, you keep up with your this lame duck conceited, deceitful and contemptuous assault on Gambia and Africa. Where in this world will you fine without economic imbalance and serious financial problems. You write as if the universe is divided by mountains and sea barriers that the next ten generation is not capable of breaking through. Are you talking about another world.
Due to lack of merit, it is futile having to associate this clumsy notion of yours. At least for once get some response on your points below:
You (Turk) wrote)
"1. Less than 20 percent functional literacy. You never addressed this issue I raised.
2. Poverty that African nations do not have financial resources to establish a state which requires money. You never address this issue.
3. Lack of tradition, culture, history about good governance. You never addressed this issue."
Point 1 (Illiteracy and Good governance):
Where less than 20 percent count as literates, in the case of Gambia, it is 100 percent of the population taken hostage for 17 years. Everyone is robbed. There was a coup in 1994 and since then lawlessness reign supreme. With less than 1% of the population holding guns against more than 90% of the population, even the most intelligent genius could not add the sum.
Point 2: Poverty, and Financial monopoly)
Current military president of Gambia Yaya Jammeh seized political power by guns, robbed financial and economic powwer by cunning schemes. He now takes the whole national finance as personal wealth. His wife goes on holiday to U S by private jet. He has more money than the state. He takes whole chunks of land for private ownership.
In that regards, it is not poverty but LAW OF UNEVEN DISTRIBUTION if you ver care to read about.
Point 3: Lack of Good governance and democratic tradition.
On this one you are wrong and right. You are right that there is no good governance especially in Gambia though not peculiar to Gambia. Again, the most developed nations of this world have chronic problems about governnance that feeds international media ventures all over.
It was the lawless coup staged by Jammeh in July 1994 that swept away the institutions and processes of democracy. Since 22 July 1994 when the virgin democratic republic Gambia fall victim to brutal military rape, dictatorship of the highest order thrives on.
Hey, Turk, these are not stories. These are realities under everyone's nose. Turk, to state the least, you are too alienating. You have the odd ways of forcing poisoned food down the throat of fully fed good people.
Try something else Turkie.
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turk
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Posted - 17 Jul 2011 : 16:25:15
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You still did not address these issues, conveniently, you turned it back to Jammeh. Like the problem of illiteracy, low wealth are because of Jammeh.
Whether Jammeh is there or not. All of the problem exist. Darboe, halifa or whoever replaces him problem is same. Gambia was not any better before Jammeh. It will not be any better when he is gone. Because of the approach of like yours. Main obstacle of African nations to make progress is people like you, Karamba. Empty rhetoric.
The voted is more than 60 percent for Jammeh. Obviously your number does not adds up. Do you know why they vote Jammeh. Because they genuinely think he is the best. Is Jammeh better. No. But there is no alternative. They know that someone else will not be any better. Today, Darboe and Sallah came to power, I guarantee, nothing will change.
Everyone blames dictators, politicians are being corrupt in Gambia or in Africa general. Where are these people coming from. Moon? They are product of the society. All of the criticism for Jammeh exist and deep rooted in Gambia. Corruption is everywhere. Africa needs massive social change. Personalities, Jammeh, Lamin, Babou, Omar don't mean anything.
Jammeh is just a name. As long as the economic, social and cultural realities exist in Gambia, there will be more Jammehs will come. And people like you can't address the real problem of Gambia. Was Gambia any better before 1994? Is it going to be better when Jammeh is gone. The answer is NO. As long as the rhetoric people like you exist. You are the biggest liability to Gambia. Thank god you abandoned Gambia. Do not ever go back there if you want Gambia to get better.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2011 : 17:21:40
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Assuming we have 1000 potentially horrific tyrants lining up to beat Jammeh's record of brutality, they have not yet been tested. The record at hand in last 17 years is on Jammeh, Jammeh, Jammeh. Not Halifa, darbo, Halifa, Darbo.
If that does not drive sense, sorry, not me any more. |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2011 : 18:20:04
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Nations deserve the leaders they got. Sorry for repeating this millions times, but you simply do not take any responsibility of your own failure as a Gambian, rather blame someone else. You seem like you love Gambia very much. But you run like a chicken and abandoned your country. Your opposition leader Darboe run just like you. Like a chicken. Instead of standing up, cowardly run. These are the reason Jammeh is standing. Because he is not checked. It is about people. Not Mr.A or Mr. B. Jammeh must be very strong man, or the opposition like you are very weak, I tell you. He does not face someone to stand up. Failed state of Gambia is not because of Jammeh. It is because of many factors. You can't change the history, colonial power, but you can change yourself. You worry about what you have control. You are the failure. One thing in your life say 'we or I'. Not he, or, she, or they. You and you (in plural form) failed.
You are not going to change from bantaba. You need to go and work hard. Oh, yeah you have to work, pay mortgage, your children go school, right. Of course. You can expect Gambians in Gambia make all the sacrifices, and you can tell them what to do. Look at my signature about chiefs and indians.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Jul 2011 : 21:03:59
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Turk, if you ever thought that me or any Gambian simply abandoned Gambia because of whatever your narrow mind tricks you on, please don't join the bush pigs peeing and pooing the land. For if that ever happens, it is then you get to know if the land is abandoned or still under rightful possession.
You are the most pathetic whatever anyone comes across. How can you comfort yourself with illusion that people have abandoned their land and that qualifies you to heap all rubbish one on top of the other?
Was it not you who stated that you have never met Toubab1020 and that you don't "give a damn" about what Anna, Toubab1020 and anyone thinks of what you think or write? Now, unless you want to be placed where you rightly belong, please state how you know I am one Gambian who abandoned my land for bush pigs to pee and poo on?
If your reason of meddling in Gambian affairs is based on false assurance that the land is abandoned, get set for a very rude shock. This small but highly treasured land will never get abandoned for bush pigs to pee and poo on. |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Jul 2011 : 22:34:53
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KARAMBA SAVE YOUR ENERGY AS JOB DONE "FOR THE GAMBIA OUR HOMELAND!" "THAT ALL MAY LIVE IN UNITY, FREEDOM AND PEACE EACH DAY!" "LET JUSTICE GUIDE OUR ACTIONS TOWARDS THE COMMON GOOD!"
"EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO OPINIONS BUT WE DON'T OWN THE FACTS
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