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Karamba



United Kingdom
3820 Posts

Posted - 26 Jun 2011 :  21:37:12  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message
Moe, please hold it. Nothing YOU wioll do under the sun that offences me. I repeat, you CANNOT offend me at all. You don't have that capacity. Your words don't get that far with me at all. Feel free to wail all around the bush and that stands sounds nothing to bother me. I think of the nation Gambia if you bother to reason about that. That is why I will stay on denouncing any person or goup(s) of persons standing on the way of progress and peace for Gambians. No personal interest but lot of national interest.

Kobo, there is so much to learn from this recent Senegalese episode. Gambia will not remain dormant. Who ever thought it could be this soon for our next door. Blinds loyalists are in for big impact sooner or later.

Karamba
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Moe



USA
2326 Posts

Posted - 26 Jun 2011 :  22:45:48  Show Profile Send Moe a Private Message
You're not denouncing anything Karamba, what you're doing is breaking the law and spewing unsubstantiated crap victimizing anyone in your way.

"I think of the nation Gambia if you bother to reason about that. That is why I will stay on denouncing any person or goup(s) of persons standing on the way of progress and peace for Gambians. No personal interest but lot of national interest."


You're are a threat to democracy and anything it stands for, what you are is a typical Gambian all yo do is "HOUNTOU" and will never do anything productive. What do you think democracy is, insulting the intelligence of other people. Stay focused and keeping looking at the ball Bro before "I lab you" or Kataa U" You are one intolerant individual for all I see.....................Peace

I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction

The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know .....
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Karamba



United Kingdom
3820 Posts

Posted - 26 Jun 2011 :  23:42:50  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message
Moe, will you for moment read your own post as reader and not as author. Then you get to better self dicovery. The message you just passed on is best suitable for none other than your typical self. Are you the state of Gambia or the superior judge for Gambian people? You need looking deeper and higher.

Do you own or love Gambia more than the million plus good citizens who remain under cruel oppression of basic rights for all the years ? Will you once more recall that your patron captain Jammeh broke Gambian laws to impose his brutal dictatorship ? Can't see the crime in that then be a truth-blind Mr Moe.


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Moe



USA
2326 Posts

Posted - 27 Jun 2011 :  00:37:30  Show Profile Send Moe a Private Message
that just tickled my elmo thats about it. I am the heart beat of the State and I am on a competition of who loves the motherland the Most. I am Judge and Jury for I remain neutral, I aint chopping no body's "Nan-mburu" and no body's chicken laid me either."Ganarr Ree ken Nenutma" thats for sure.

This is just common sense if you live in a ZOO with ungovernable creatures some have to be caged and others need to be neutralized and some just need to be neutered for the sake of the other species.

Gambia has a lot of illiterates and I mean educated illiterates who choose to be dumb and foolish for how else can anyone explain the state of affairs presently. I have 20/20 vision Karamba can't get any better than that. The million good and innocent Gambians that decided not to say anything never sent you to represent them or be their loud speaker. They are contented and ain't saying nothing that much I can assure you. Until satisfactorily it ain't the Daabaa's, Bokar's Matthews, Bayangs, and the other fools I dont have to name them all, sorry guys it is acceptable to say its I and I against Ya'll, I ain't retreating either since everyone is waiting for an outcome. Take this as a cyber coup d'etat if you please, every single one of you traitors that destroyed the identity of your "ex motherland" applicable to some, have no say and MUST relinquish the cyber world.
Bokarr is a typical disgruntled employee and so is Matthew, certain things they wanted their way failed so they resorted to the lowest form of human being more like an APE, prehistoric beings or should I say animals.....................................................Peace

I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction

The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know .....

Edited by - Moe on 27 Jun 2011 00:43:42
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Dembish



Gambia
284 Posts

Posted - 27 Jun 2011 :  01:29:19  Show Profile Send Dembish a Private Message
Karamba opressors are always living in fear and insecurity, the event that took place in Senegal was long overdue in The Gamba,but the way things are going on, its just a matter of WHEN not IF similar scenarior will happen if Gambia.
This is not calling for destabilising The country, but ther is a Mandinka say , Even a GOAT if oppressed to certain level,it resorts to bitting. Gambians are going through hell with the present regime in Banjul and even supproters of APRC knew very well that its NOt going to last.To rule a nation by inflicting fear in to the populace,is not a way to govern a nation as history over and over thaught us.Events in Libya,Egypt,syria and Irag should serve good lessons to Jammeh that winning elections is one thing but mentaining the loyality of the citizens is another.The reason why democracy is the way forward in modern times.
Moe my respond to you regarding T-shirt coup allegation is that, the world is keenly following the case and hence its before the courts let wait and see.One thing is certain,this case will tell a lot to the entire world about the system of government in Banjul.

There is no egg without a chicken, and no chicken without egg.
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Sister Omega



United Kingdom
2085 Posts

Posted - 27 Jun 2011 :  01:34:15  Show Profile  Visit Sister Omega's Homepage Send Sister Omega a Private Message
Essa Bokarr Sey
quote:
"WHAT WE HAVE IN THE GAMBIA IS FAR WORSE THAN
WHAT OBTAINS IN SENEGAL THEREFORE OUR OWN SOCIAL UNREST WILL BE BLOODY AND NASTY WHEN IT STARTS AND IT WILL START SOONER THAN EXPECTED."

So, what is Essa plotting for this year’s elections. He is not content with splintering the opposition fractions, as he started to infiltrate them ten years ago. He succeeded sowing the discontented feelings amongst the opposition parties and ended up breaking up NADD.
Now Essa’s strategy is plain and simple to bombard Gambia with misinformation and terrorize the Gambian population by getting everyone into a panic by threatening with social unrest. In his futile attempts to stop as many voters voting in the upcoming elections, thereby derailing vision 2020. He expects all Gambians to take to the streets and act as a decoy whilst he and his foot soldiers make a decoy, and take over statehouse. Come on Guys this isn’t an American movie. You are threatening innocent lives of ordinary people who want a progressive future. This obviously is very real in Essa’s mind as he is a fantasist and fiction is his forte.
However, a clear line needs to be drawn when Freedom of Speech calls for TERRORISM. Essa sought Political Asylum in the US to escape his Ambassador transfer to Serra Leone in his eyes that was a demotion. His master plan was to launch his mission to take over Gambia. He has waged a continuous campaign of terror on the Gambian people with his foxy exploits crying for freedom. In addition to this he now has stated explicitly what his intentions are towards Gambian Citizens. Let’s remember the same accusations Essa has made against Jammeh is exactly what he intends to do. His intentions are selfishly motivated and there is a real case for the Gambian government to bring extradition against him and it wouldn’t be of any surprise if indeed Essa visits Gambia sooner than he thinks.
Essa prides himself on both his intelligence and logic and yes he has the ability to use rhetoric ‘s to galvanise his followers down the road of self-destruction as Moe has plainly cited leaving them up a creek without a paddle.
This strategy is nothing new his sweet words of freedom using comparatives between Wade and Mandela . Then , he speedily breezed over his solidarity sentiments with the Senegalese to launch an attack on Jammeh. Let’s hope the Senegalese opposition aren’t fooled by Essa’s opportunistic ways. Essa couldn’t give a toss about Senegal, he only wants to use Senegal situation as a platform to launch an outright warning to Jammeh. He has now gained courage by coming out of his pseudonym form on forums. This guys too clever because he’ll have two or three pseudonyms active on any forum at any-time. It’s really odd Karamba seemed to overly confident and bold tonight. He’s been consistently attacking Jammeh for the past five years and very seldom does he ever via off the topic of his hatred for the President. It’s a compulsion and he makes out like Sey, that he only has the national interest at heart but seldom comes up with a vision of what his vision of 2020 is or any vision at all. Karamba shortly appeared on to the bantaba after Jammeh won the last elections.
In Sey’s vision of freedom ( hence his stint on the newspaper) he is the one who sees himself as the Mansa of Gambia. He thrives on playing mind games and propaganda is his specialism. The Mansa idea came straight out of his camp. Come on we all know Jammeh has no ambition of being Mansa. It was a conspiracy story brought about by idol gossip ,and jealously, which happened to gain a certain amount of creditability on the net. Filtering across because to the BBC World Service, and I actually heard it on Gambia myself whilst I was there. This lie was aimed at provoking Gambians into negative reactions against Jammeh coinciding with Voter Registration in October. Gambia is a Republic and there is no way the overwhelming, majority of Gambians would tolerate a King ruling Gambia. However, despite this lame provocation nobody in their right minds brought into such foolishness on the ground neither will Gambia plunge itself into a Rwanda. Those who continue to threaten Gambia Citizens in such a way by threatening its peace and stability thinking they have immunity from prosecution may be in for a terrible shock as they are bogus asylum seekers and are launching terror attacks from their host countries.
Ironically when the US is threatened by terrorist they get them extradited when US bogus Asylum seekers are waging terror on their countries of origin they should deported them . The same also applies to other states including the UK.

Peace
Sister Omega

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Moe



USA
2326 Posts

Posted - 27 Jun 2011 :  02:06:37  Show Profile Send Moe a Private Message
Thanks for that piece Sister O, "This is a coup and ya'll better recognize". Its the Good Vs Bad so you can choose whatever floats your boat or "sucre your mbudakeh" this is a fight for cyberspace that started 5 years ago and trust me on this WE will Rise to this challenge if any of ya'll doubting it. This has nothing to do with any party for I can assure you I represent NO ONE.

They also say Dembish if you pull the billy goats beard and slap it simultaneously it speaks ARABIC, "Watawalleh".

What Gambians are scared of is the rule of law and the laws they passed themselves to govern them, Look you people are ready to compromise the law and judiciary daily, Guilty does not mean anything as long as it's not in your interest. None is advocating for a competent judiciary or the executive, its all about one person Jammeh , Jammeh, Jammeh, thats kinda JADED now bro's. Focus on improving and strengthening Gambian Institutions first before anything.

Everyday people are harrased by incompetent officials but that concerns no one, Its all Jammeh, Jammeh, even if Bah is responsible. Look a Baati Rewmi Rado CCG radio , trust me ensuring every oppressed Gambian has access to a trust fund to address their legal needs would have been more feasible and complementary, You sit here and tell me about people at mile two not having access to Justice but these so called criminals in most instances have lawyers representing them, If I were a Gambian Judge several attorneys will be dis-barred for incompetence simply because it is partially their responsibilty that their clients are justly treated, instead they just collect money and let the system take its toll...................................Peace

I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction

The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know .....

Edited by - Moe on 27 Jun 2011 02:14:42
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Sister Omega



United Kingdom
2085 Posts

Posted - 27 Jun 2011 :  02:33:01  Show Profile  Visit Sister Omega's Homepage Send Sister Omega a Private Message
I think the key word here is "responsibilism". Haven't you'll noticed that none of these Guys ever want to take responsibility for anything they just want to blame someone else and we all know who! There politics is so crazy because they've had five years to organised and yet still they aren't prepared. Guess who they going to blame for that? This is why people back home don't take these wannabe's seriously at all. It's the Gambia Youth who hold the keys to shaping Gambia's future who will have the foresight and vision to take the country beyond 2020. I don't really see a contender for this election who will beat the APRC. As for these wanabes here alot of Gambians are sick and tired of listening to all the negativity being spouted out about the country. Where are these Guy's patriotism. I suspect its on whatever passport they're currently using at the moment.

Hey have any of these guys got any policies worth debating or is the only policy you got.... the same old, same old,s

Peace

Sister Omega

Peace
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Dembish



Gambia
284 Posts

Posted - 27 Jun 2011 :  02:38:23  Show Profile Send Dembish a Private Message
Moe as you said "if you pull the bear of a billy goat and slap it simultaneously is speak arabis "Watawallah"
Believe me thats what Yaya Jammeh has been doing to Gambian and still continue doing. No wonder we (including yourself) are saying "Watawallah" now. You see there is a big Big problem here, If we cannot differenciate coup from freedom of speeak and Association as stipulated by the constitution this is seriously very sad situation.
Moe the rotten judicial syatem i Gambia is put in place by Jammeh.
The injustice and callous maltretement netted out on Gambians by socalled security agents are created by Jammeh.
All the wrong doings going on in Banjul, the environment is created by jammeh, if not he should come out clearly and put up an invistigation.So you see the reason why every one is blaming him.If you are presiding over a government and such happening are taking place under your nose and you fail to act on it, then the bottom line is you are part and parcil of the act.So tell me moe who do you want Gambians to Blame??

There is no egg without a chicken, and no chicken without egg.
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Moe



USA
2326 Posts

Posted - 27 Jun 2011 :  02:49:59  Show Profile Send Moe a Private Message
First of all Gambians need to be educated of all the constraints facing the judicial system, Look Mexico shares borders with the U.S and have similar problems in reference to Justice. They have their own mile Two's , American citizens are warned not to break the Law whilst in Mexico, Mexico is a far more advanced society than Gambia in terms of GDP or whatever you wanna choose to measure it with. They abuse and beat their citizens just like Gambians, It's a third world problem and instead of addressing the Issues the Head of State is responsible. Jammeh is not a CID, Jammeh is not CIA, where is Gambia's Sherlock Holmes or is competence only applicable for Leaders? Thats when they will have no option but to try to do it all since everyone seems to be incompetent with No Vision. Jammeh installed the rotten Judicial system and Jails ? are you kidding me, Look during the time Jawara was President Gambia Jails had under age Bumpsters anywhere between 13 - 17 locked up at Kotu Police Station for weeks and months, once a child asked me for ten dalasis and I asked him why he needed it, he said to me THEY DONT CARE ALL THEY WANT IS MONEY AND THEY WILL LET ME GO. He knew at 13 how to get out of the clutches of over zealous officers, his crime was being at the beach looking for toubab1020, this was the former governments actions am referencing, so nothing is new about that....................................Peace

I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction

The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know .....

Edited by - Moe on 27 Jun 2011 02:59:06
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Dembish



Gambia
284 Posts

Posted - 27 Jun 2011 :  03:30:26  Show Profile Send Dembish a Private Message
Damn men......,what are you saying moe? For God's sake by dragging the former government to the scene you are only admitting failure of jammeh and the APRC government.I think Jammeh claim to have come to correct those wrongs, so if they are still in existence taday what is his essence of forcefullying toppling the PPP? the answer is plain , TO GET RICH AS HE IS TODAY.
Forget about the former government, it's jammeh turn now and we are worse off.
Are you saying Gambians are not competent to run the judiciary? you are in deep slumber boy, jammeh sidelined them because the Gambian judges will not play the dirty game the Nigerian mercenary judges are doing for him now.
Besides the level of education is higher today than in the former goverment era,why do you think people got confidence in the the judicairy during those days in comparison to the rotten state its in today thanks to a Mad Dictator.


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Moe



USA
2326 Posts

Posted - 27 Jun 2011 :  03:55:37  Show Profile Send Moe a Private Message
Dragging the previous regime to the scene exemplifies what I am saying, The organs of government were worse of than they are today. Jawara could not Jail his own family members let alone some of the coupist in 1981. Jawara was betrayed by Saihou Sabally and take note, he was not there to pick him up from the airport, Jammeh and company ONLY saved the day.

Don't tell me about Jammeh's riches ya'll made it possible for the President to engage in business whilst serving in office. Show me one clause in your Constitution that states that he cannot do business or be supported by groups of investors......................................Peace

I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction

The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know .....
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Dembish



Gambia
284 Posts

Posted - 27 Jun 2011 :  10:09:05  Show Profile Send Dembish a Private Message
I can only refer you to go back to the constitution of The Gambia.That question of yours simply tells me that you simply DO NOT understand what the role of the Head of state is, its as simple as that.
By the way jammeh did not get rich from those bussinesses for your information, He simply stole from the money belonging to you and me,and thanks to your kinds, he is getting away with it at least for now but I can assure you that jammeh will account for every single Gambians' butute sooner of later.

There is no egg without a chicken, and no chicken without egg.

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toubab1020



12312 Posts

Posted - 27 Jun 2011 :  11:55:24  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
"responsibilism".

Sister O , I take it that your newly coined american (?) word has the same meaning as my phrase, "Personal responsibility" ? a failing that,in my opinion that ALMOST all Gambians suffer from ,the blame culture is VERY strong throughout Gambian society, I am sorry to say.Progress in Gambia cannot bloom whilst this state of mind continues,this does not only apply to political thinking but to life in the Gambia in general.


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Originally posted by Sister Omega

I think the key word here is "responsibilism". Haven't you'll noticed that none of these Guys ever want to take responsibility for anything they just want to blame someone else and we all know who! moment.

Hey have any of these guys got any policies worth debating or is the only policy you got.... the same old, same old,s

Peace

Sister Omega


"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Santanfara



3460 Posts

Posted - 27 Jun 2011 :  15:05:25  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
Karamba, Dembis
In fact Yaya fears more for his down fall than all his fans put together. His former cook explains that, the man is so scared of his eventual demise, he resorts to doing what every tyrant do, try to increase the fear level. What that is doing is slowly expose his criminality.
Gambians are not scared of Jammeh, they don't want a sadistic devil to cause maximum danage to the people. Because cowards always go the extreme to retain themselves. He will be caught like a Billy Goat. We have time on ourside. even his own boys are now timing him accurately. The ***** have cause so much hunger, poverty and distress, his stay is overdue.
Karamba you always boost the moral of oppressed Gambians. Keep up the good work.

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

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