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Prince
507 Posts |
 Posted - 01 Dec 2010 : 21:02:19
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Originally posted by turk
Prince
I think Mansa's speculation that Mr.Fatty could see the merge with the UDP as an opportunity, as UDP leader hesitance on presidential candidacy, mansa might be wrong with his claim but his speculation is valid and should not be subjected for ridicule.
Also, bona fide claim was, I think more than the legal status, it was more for the little support the party has and significance in the Gambian politics. And not having facts and providing thoughts/speculations are all about the political debate.
Turk,
The hesitancy is your own making... even a 8yr old kid on the streets of Banjul can tell you who the UDP's presidential candidate would be. |
"When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes duty." |
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turk
USA
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Posted - 01 Dec 2010 : 21:11:30
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You are right it was incorrect statement. But his age, his previous failures, his lack of political and leadership skills are valid issues/concerns. BTW, did he hold any public position, i.e. member of national assembly, or local government position?
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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mansasulu
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Posted - 01 Dec 2010 : 21:45:43
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Prince,
My point is he joining as an individual but masquarading as a Political Party. Unless we move away from this 'Rambo' mentality we can never be able to see a clear distinction between what we currently have and what the alternative could be. It is not that Mai is not forth coming with a structure. None exists!! And you think 369 people liking a page on FACEBOOK signifies political followers? This is facebook bro...facebook???? Come on man. Some of those members may not even be Gambians.
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"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)
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Prince
507 Posts |
Posted - 01 Dec 2010 : 22:10:02
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“…..his previous failures, his lack of political and leadership skills …….public position, i.e. member of national assembly, or local government position?”
When did these requirements become the criterion for leading Gambia? Anyways, I am not a member of the GMC or Fatty’s spokesperson, so I cannot comment on the issues you raised.
The GMC’s email address is all over the web, they would probably be glad to address these “valid issues/concerns” you’re raising.
I was just addressing what I perceive to be an unfair....
However, one would hope that the average voter considers these valid issues/concerns; that way, we would not have high school dropouts learning on the presidential job.
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 Dec 2010 : 00:27:20
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Originally posted by mansasulu
[quote]Originally posted by Nyarikangbanna
[quote]Originally posted by mansasulu
I am happy to concede the meaning of 'bonafide' to you. And in the interest of going forward, let me also concede that GMC is a 'legally registered party bonafide party.' My point is Mai Fatty should come to the table as a representative of a 'bonafide political party' where all the other parties are meeting to formulate a meaningful alliance. It appears to me that he is 'riding short gun'...
Point taken.
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I do not oppose unity but I oppose dumb union. |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 02 Dec 2010 : 00:54:54
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Prince
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When did these requirements become the criterion for leading Gambia?
I don’t understand your question. These are not legal requirements in order to lead Gambia, but they are political criteria/standards/concerns for voters to consider/evaluate. Personally, I would not vote for UDP leader/UDP as a party. If I was eligible to vote I would choose either Halifa or Jammeh based on what I know.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Prince
507 Posts |
Posted - 02 Dec 2010 : 23:36:22
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Originally posted by turk
Prince
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When did these requirements become the criterion for leading Gambia?
I don’t understand your question. These are not legal requirements in order to lead Gambia, but they are political criteria/standards/concerns for voters to consider/evaluate. Personally, I would not vote for UDP leader/UDP as a party. If I was eligible to vote I would choose either Halifa or Jammeh based on what I know.
Well Turk, according to you... Jammeh is one of the best things that ever happened to Gambia, and last time I checked, he was not in-charge of even a chicken coop before literally "taking over" the presidency.
Since, you are not eligible to vote... I would not bother discussing the merits of who to vote for with you. That would be like haggling over the price of potatoes before they are harvested. |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 03 Dec 2010 : 00:08:09
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Prince. You can't comprehend the political debate I am making. I have never said claim that Jammeh is the best things that ever happened to gambia. Where do you make up these rubbish. However, I do say Jammeh is the product of Gambian society, and people, including you, deserve the leaders they got and so far I did not see any alternative better than him. And there are things he does well. And he came to power with a coup. As a nation of Gambia, what one does about it? Did one take the risk to stand up? If one is not equipped, motivated, skilled, brave enough to change the power, there is not much can be done. And that is UDP.
And this is a political debate, whether I am eligible for voting or not, does not matter. I wish you comprehend this. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Prince
507 Posts |
Posted - 03 Dec 2010 : 00:26:35
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LOL.... Turk and his cyclical blabber |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
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Posted - 03 Dec 2010 : 23:32:34
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Ummmmmmmm I think there are still thousands of compitent Gambians to do far more better than Jammeh.The problem with some thin headed Gambians is that they cannot see beyond their nose.When Jawara was there, we have been hearing these same things over and over that we have not seen any one better than HIM thats why he had to continue.
Now Jammeh and before he came onto the scene, he was vertually unknown but the moment he assended the helms, the same old thing we cannot see anyone better than him. For God's shake, how can we see something that has not happened yet? Why not give it a chance and see if it would work! God save us all and keep the Gambia safe.Amen! |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Dec 2010 : 01:47:30
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Originally posted by Prince
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Originally posted by turk
Prince
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When did these requirements become the criterion for leading Gambia?
I don’t understand your question. These are not legal requirements in order to lead Gambia, but they are political criteria/standards/concerns for voters to consider/evaluate. Personally, I would not vote for UDP leader/UDP as a party. If I was eligible to vote I would choose either Halifa or Jammeh based on what I know.
Well Turk, according to you... Jammeh is one of the best things that ever happened to Gambia, and last time I checked, he was not in-charge of even a chicken coop before literally "taking over" the presidency.
Since, you are not eligible to vote... I would not bother discussing the merits of who to vote for with you. That would be like haggling over the price of potatoes before they are harvested.
No better way of putting it Prince. Also, Janyanfara is right in stating that Gambia has more comptetent persons to perform better than this rogue posing as president by accident.
In the history of Gambia, the biggest regret for generations is this epoch with a cruel bandit waving his machets and guns ready to kill just for material and money.
Yaya is big burden for Gambia. It appears he is running out of steam. Most his gang members have had enough of the vampire. |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 04 Dec 2010 : 01:52:37
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| Interesting. There are more competent people but some reason, they don't get vote. Why? |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Dec 2010 : 02:07:17
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Oh dear good fellow, not all competent Gambians prefer the political ring show. you must be narrowly focusing. A wider spetacle on the big picture will no doubt reveal much more one-sided viewers so narrowly capture.
In the absence of his deadly weapons, how much will Yaya make through clean voting? |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 04 Dec 2010 : 03:04:01
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| Karamba. Yahya is a choice of people of Gambia. I am not narrowly focusing. People would prefer staying home not vote, rather than voting for some senior-citizen. That is a fact. It is overwhelming support. At least every one of two men or women walking on the gambia's soil support Yahya Jammeh with passion. I know you can't accept this fact. But that is a FACT. You will see it in 2011. Mark my words. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 04 Dec 2010 : 04:04:50
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Turk,
Yaya remains a full fledge bully if you wish to know. That is because, he fails to play civil and sensible. You cannot seize power by guns, rule by guns, destroy the political order, and boast about being a choice of people. Emperor Bokasa, Idi Amin, Nino, Charles Taylor, and several others in similar mindset of power would each claim as people's man.
In short, Yaya Jammeh has outlived his coup platform. He is not sensible enough to know that by playing this unfair game, the ground remains bad to call it what you want anyone take it.
Let him put his guns away and see how far his person commands what you wish to make of him. You cannot trade on this rotten product.
Why does Yaya have to kill? Why does he need to steal, trade in drugs, play with illicit money, all for what? You still call him man of people. Yaya knows more than you do. As you read these lines, he knows what's up.
In life, anyone who does as Yaya is doing, the end is never good. Turk, you some times come up as someone playing music. It makes one laugh.
A genuine man of the people will never think of the ways Yaya is known for. |
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Edited by - Karamba on 04 Dec 2010 19:45:19 |
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