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Janko

Gambia
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Posted - 04 Jan 2015 :  23:48:41  Show Profile  Visit Janko's Homepage Send Janko a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Who said tribalism is not the EVIL that men create and nurture - just for it to consume them, like Frankenstein´s monster ...


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Janko

Gambia
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Posted - 07 Jan 2015 :  23:54:21  Show Profile  Visit Janko's Homepage Send Janko a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Revealed: How ethnic groups share public jobs ... (Kenya)


The Civil Service is dominated by four communities who take up more than half of all the jobs, a new government report has revealed.

Members of the Kikuyu community lead the pack, followed by their counterparts from the Kalenjin, Luhya and Kamba communities. Together, they control 58 per cent of the workforce in government ministries, departments and agencies.

However, the report, dated December 2014, says that new appointments in the last financial year were done in a manner that ensured ethnic balance. The report was the product of a survey conducted in 168 agencies with a workforce of 94,286. ...

“Ethnicity is normally one of the criteria we use when hiring. We want to ensure that all communities are fairly represented,” Prof Margaret Kobia, the chairperson of the Public Service Commission, told Nation in a telephone interview. ...

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Edited by - Janko on 07 Jan 2015 23:59:55
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Janko

Gambia
1267 Posts

Posted - 17 May 2015 :  01:29:29  Show Profile  Visit Janko's Homepage Send Janko a Private Message  Reply with Quote




There are three things among others that I will never be embarrassed or apologetic for – My FAITH. MY RACE. MY TRIBE. These composed my identity and I can’t run away from. To disparage me by attacking them amounts to disrespecting and insulting my being. When that happens, I cannot reserve any degree of love or respect for you. It does not make me a Bigot, a Racist or Tribalist. You identity is Your Pride. I’m not going to be wearing it around my neck to hate, love, and embrace or discriminate. When that happens that’s when it becomes abhorrent and dangerous. Allah acknowledges, respects our (distinct) identities – Tribes and Nations in the Quran, and it was not for nothing.

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toubab1020



12314 Posts

Posted - 17 May 2015 :  11:49:49  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
SNIPPET:
"There are three things among others that I will never be embarrassed or apologetic for – My FAITH. MY RACE. MY TRIBE. These composed my identity and I can’t run away from. To disparage me by attacking them amounts to disrespecting and insulting my being. When that happens, I cannot reserve any degree of love or respect for you. It does not make me a Bigot, a Racist or Tribalist. You identity is Your Pride. I’m not going to be wearing it around my neck to hate, love, and embrace or discriminate."



JANKO,in resurrecting this topic,you must be on precisely the same wavelength as myself,honestly yesterday I was going to post on this topic myself.The wording of the opening paragraph of this article sums up the feelings of ALL GAMBIANS and is not restricted to H.E. ALL Gambians of EVERY TRIBE have the same feelings such feelings are not the sole prerogative of the Jola OR Mandinka TRIBES,with such ingrained feelings Gambia will find great difficulty in attaining meaningful nationhood.(in my opinion. )



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There are three things among others that I will never be embarrassed or apologetic for – My FAITH. MY RACE. MY TRIBE. These composed my identity and I can’t run away from. To disparage me by attacking them amounts to disrespecting and insulting my being. When that happens, I cannot reserve any degree of love or respect for you. It does not make me a Bigot, a Racist or Tribalist. You identity is Your Pride. I’m not going to be wearing it around my neck to hate, love, and embrace or discriminate. When that happens that’s when it becomes abhorrent and dangerous. Allah acknowledges, respects our (distinct) identities – Tribes and Nations in the Quran, and it was not for nothing.


"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Momodou



Denmark
11792 Posts

Posted - 17 May 2015 :  21:37:41  Show Profile Send Momodou a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jammeh Insulting And Discriminating Mandinkas Isn’t New. They Let It!

Kairo news






Mouthing at Citizens –A Cause for Continued Concern

By Jallow

A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone
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Janko

Gambia
1267 Posts

Posted - 17 May 2015 :  22:47:31  Show Profile  Visit Janko's Homepage Send Janko a Private Message  Reply with Quote


… rather have 5 good wollofs to work for him than 1 Mandinka … prefer to have four committed Fullas to work for him than one Mandinka.


What does the above statement imply ... mathematically it does not mean what it seem to imply. Hence the ratio 1 isto 5 could be interpreted in many ways. The only constant in the relationship is that 5 is bigger than 1.
Fancying 5W to 1M could mean what 1M can do is equal to what 5W can do. Or 1M is equal to 5W in strength. Or it is cheaper to employ 5W than 1M. Or in terms of danger, it is safer to have to do with 5W than 1M … as you can see I am confused by the above statement……heeeeeelp

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toubab1020



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Posted - 18 May 2015 :  00:40:52  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am given to understand that the Mandinka tribe has the greatest number of people in The Gambia (if this is incorrect please correct me ) they must be concerned having a President from a tribe with a lesser number of people living in The Gambia a country where tribe is of the utmost importance to all .

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Momodou



Denmark
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Posted - 18 May 2015 :  14:12:22  Show Profile Send Momodou a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Outsiders can never understand the joking relationships between language groups and surnames in Senegambia because it’s very unique. There is no Gambian who does not have intermarriage between other language groups in their family.

The current remarks by the president is just a distraction and Gambians are cleaver to see that.

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toubab1020



12314 Posts

Posted - 18 May 2015 :  15:55:29  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I agree totally with your posting,Gambian culture and ways of doing things are a mystery to an outsider, a Gambian last name does not "belong" to any particular tribe, the common Gambian name CAMARA for instance is used by at least two different tribes,very very confusing to any outsider and beyond their comprehension ,as are their relationships brother sister ,father etc.
The world would indeed be a very dull place if we were all the same.


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Originally posted by Momodou

Outsiders can never understand the joking relationships between language groups and surnames in Senegambia because it’s very unique. There is no Gambian who does not have intermarriage between other language groups in their family.

The current remarks by the president is just a distraction and Gambians are cleaver to see that.



"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Janko

Gambia
1267 Posts

Posted - 19 May 2015 :  02:47:57  Show Profile  Visit Janko's Homepage Send Janko a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, so, you see, the statement, if it is a quotation, I mean, if it is written as it came from the horse’s mouth - could be interpreted differently, than the one insinuated by the saidman.

So, if and only if, it is not a quotation, then who is peddling tribalism - the saidman or the horse?

Just as Momodou said, there is no PURE BREED in my country - except in the realm of wishful thinking, which does not make it less toxic ... but even more ... you know.

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Momodou



Denmark
11792 Posts

Posted - 19 May 2015 :  10:00:37  Show Profile Send Momodou a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You are right Bro.

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Originally posted by Alhassan

Modou, this is what we call SANAW YA(MANDINKA) and KALL(WOLLOF). It’s well known and written about in Mali as most of us Gambians come from the East(TILIBO)WE call them TILIBONKO. Most of us Like the Njies(JARRA) And Jobes(TARAWALLE) Jolas and Serers. This is what makes our culture unique. Such things still exist and create a peaceful coexistence. I suggest we refer people to the Malian African writer’s series.



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sankalanka

270 Posts

Posted - 19 May 2015 :  19:38:34  Show Profile Send sankalanka a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"Outsiders can never understand the joking relationships between language groups and surnames in Senegambia because it’s very unique. There is no Gambian who does not have intermarriage between other language groups in their family.

The current remarks by the president is just a distraction and Gambians are cleaver to see that." Momodou.

Thanks Momodou. Your above statement have said it all. Those remarks as reported, are a deliberate provocation that have their target audience.

Look at the people who are responding to the remarks. They are the very ones whom the remarks were meant for in the first place. The educated Gambians mostly residing in the diaspora.

Most of those in attendance, I am sure if the video is available, you will see them laughing off the remarks. Though it is not funny, just as Momodou said, most Gambians are clever enough to see them for what they are. Provocation. Distraction. Insensitivity. Prejudice.

Whatever you want to call it, but the dynamics of our culture and the harmonious relationship between our different tribal groupings, will never allow it to transcend to the threshold of being a tribal conflict.

We all know that Mandinka's form the majority tribe in the country. We all know that you will find Mandinka's among the most educated Gambians. We also know that they are a formidable challenge, together with other tribal groupings, to the political incumbency and status quo that prevails presently.

So these kinds of remarks are more political than they are tribal. I hope we can just see them for what they are.
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