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Nyarikangbanna
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 Posted - 20 May 2014 : 23:22:13
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Originally posted by bread man
Which country is Hallifa Sallah and the PDOIS living, Gambia??????
Bread man lol! |
I do not oppose unity but I oppose dumb union. |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 May 2014 : 02:06:12
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Freedom Newspaper DIASPORA FAT CAT OF STRUGGLE; bossy Editor Pa Nderry Mbai, in his comfort zone, thousands of miles away from realities on the ground, engaged in POPULARITY CONTEST ; with this SELF-OPINIONATED & PERSONAL AGENDA DRIVEN Editorial;
INTERESTING QUOTE FROM EDITORIAL: quote:
"In all fairness, the PDOIS document contain brilliant prepositions and arguments, but in reality it is not applicable in a country, ranked as the North Korea of West Africa. Let us face it: The Gambia is the North Korea of West Africa."
AGENDA 2016 STRATEGIC SALIENT POINTS HIGHLIGHTED;
- A "strategic objective of PDOIS" for (citizens franchise, especially dissidents & all of opposition front to seize opportunity of forthcoming 2016, make advance preparation to mobilise themselves towards) "ushering in the sovereignty of the people."
- "PDOIS is of the view that the highest political expression of the right to self determination and Independence is the founding of a sovereign Republic on the basis of the consent of the people, which legitimises their equality in citizenship and sovereignty."
- "Hence before 2016 PDOIS has the aim to conduct sensitisation sessions nationwide to ensure that all Gambians are cognisant of the fact that citizenship under a Republic guarantees the Sovereignty of the person."
- "The first goal is to put a definitive end to voter apathy by ensuring that upon completion of the exercise each Gambian would recognise that the voter’s card is an attestation of one’s sovereignty and equality in citizenship with all other Gambians, without which one is deprived of the power and voice to say how the country is governed."
"All Gambians should then feel a self motivated urge to possess and preserve one’s citizenship card as a manifestation of one’s national Identity and a voter’ card as a symbol of one’s sovereignty."
- "The second goal is to put a definitive end to sectarian politics which relies on the perpetuation of prejudices or loyalties based on faith, gender , caste and ethno –linguistic origins and ensure that it is engrained in the consciousness of every Gambian that a Sovereign Republic is a community of sovereign citizens who enjoy equal rights and freedoms and are entitled to equal benefit from public services, irrespective of place of birth,, ethno-linguistic origin, religion, physical features , philosophy, gender and other demographic characteristics, in whom the sovereignty of the country resides , from whom the authority to manage the affairs of the community must be drawn and for whose liberty and prosperity authority to govern is exercised."
- "A Case For Electoral Reform
PDOIS recognises that since 1965 the Gambia had never had a democratic transfer of power from one party or person to another. In the same vein, the coup d’état and the politics of transition have given rise to a peculiar political situation in the Gambia characterised by the inadequate development of Republican and democratic instruments, institutions , values and culture which are requisite to the building of a genuine multi party system.
This reality begs for appropriate strategies and tactics to bring about democratic change which would usher in the ideal sovereign Republic which could put in place a genuine multi party system." -
"PDOIS AGENDA 2016 proposes two practical tactics to address the political situation."
- "The joint opposition ...of 7 opposition parties...to combat the abuse of incumbency through the use of state resources and personnel for party political objectives."
- "To call for electoral reform..." "to petition IEC" & call for "non participation in elections"; if demands not met or achieved.
- Focusing on the transformed "Group of six"..."comprising all the seven opposition parties and some Independent MPs".."for electoral reform."
- "Therefore PDOIS maintains that the 2016 electoral cycle opens with a clean slate. Its outcome will depend on how the hearts and minds of the people are to be shaped in these coming two years."
- "The first tactic
The first tactic is to work for electoral reform so that the second round of voting is restored and upper age limits barring candidature are eradicated to enable interested parties to test their popularity and leave the electorate to decide the fate of political leaders."
- "The Second Tactic"
PDOIS acknowledge the fact that "if there is no electoral reform change would come if the people are resolved to support one candidate. Hence PDOIS proposes that, if no reform takes place up to the middle of 2015, opposition parties could meet to decide on how to select one candidate to contest the Presidential elections in 2016.
Electoral reform or not the political parties must be strong on the ground. Hence PDOIS plan is to work and consolidate its forces on the ground pending electoral reform or electoral Alliance. This is why Agenda 2016 proceeds explain how PDOIS intends to address the challenges facing the country."
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 May 2014 : 02:09:09
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Originally posted by Nyarikangbanna
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Originally posted by bread man
Which country is Hallifa Sallah and the PDOIS living, Gambia??????
Bread man lol!
A DESPOT PAPA'S LAND FOR A MONSTER & APRC BUT NEVER WILL UDP TOPPLE THEM BY BALLOT EVER, BECAUSE GAMBIANS WANT TO BE OPPRESSED
 PDOIS message to citizens is well articulated for the common good of the nation, launched at grassroot level and Gainako gave a fitting evaluation and appraisal of PDOIS Agenda 2016; CLEARLY to be "with Emphasis on Electoral Reform and Citizen Engagement" addressed to ALL CITIZENS FRANCHISE TO DECIDE DESTINY OF NATION! Which sane person, literate and informed will reject this viable programme for nation's development, civil liberties of oppressed citizens and empowerment of citizens
PDOIS ARE ADDRESSING COMMON NATIONAL BURNING ISSUES AND ARE WINNERS & CHAMPIONS OF DEMOCRACY, DECENT POLITICS, CIVIC EDUCATION, HUMAN RIGHTS, FREEDOM, INDEPENDENCE & JUSTICE
Coach Pa Samba Jow said "Surr kerr dougo terreh fengye!" = You can NEVER bury your own shadow, how well you try it will always be lingering till you die & dissappear
NO ONE CAN STEAL CREDIBILITY FROM THIS EXCELLENT WORK OF PDOIS AND SHOWING LEADERSHIP, DYNAMISM, VIBRANCY & CREDIBILITY!
"Free from hate, mischief & jealous" - Bob Marley!
WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER!
"This cause is bigger than any individual or group of individuals, elites, cabal, clique, cronies, opposition political party, party leader, ethnic group and/or tribe" |
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sankalanka
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Posted - 23 May 2014 : 05:42:16
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"This cause is bigger than any individual or group of individuals, elites, cabal, clique, cronies, opposition political party, party leader, ethnic group and/ or tribe."
The above statement sums up the genuine Gambian struggle. The struggle to bring about the democratic revolution that will usher in the Gambia's Third Republic. This is the reason why this genuine struggle should never be ceded to any party-led political consideration nor to the political agenda of any other interest group. The realities of the Gambian political situation must shape and inform the outcome of this struggle.
We are therefore faced with two political realities: 1) how to change a government and 2) the nature of the government that we want to create.
These political realities are borne out of a political circumstance in which we have two republics, one lasted for almost three decades and the other is almost 20 years and counting.
It is in response to these political realities that PDOIS's Agenda 2016 is premised upon. There is a window of two years in which Gambians can debate and discuss and come to a consensus on what they want to do.
One thing, though, should be certain: the evolution of the Gambia's Third Republic should be deliberate, decisive and carefully orchestrated so that all the ills of the past can be remedied, and the foundation for a pluralistic and genuine democratic dispensation well entrenched.
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 May 2014 : 12:22:23
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Rene, this is why people have been urging PDOIS to put ideology aside and accept the fact that they have no valid justification for not wanting to adhere to the conventional way of coalition politics as practiced most widely in the world that we live in. They can't continue to doctor facts and theories out of spite for the UDP and in furtherance of personal egos, and then expect to be taken seriously.
By the way; can you buy some shampoo for Sidia?? His short hair needs a bit of shampooing.
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I do not oppose unity but I oppose dumb union. |
Edited by - Nyarikangbanna on 23 May 2014 13:54:39 |
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sankalanka
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Posted - 23 May 2014 : 14:55:50
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PDOIS's position is clear. It has been since its inception. And this position is informed by a thorough understanding of the historical antecedents that preceded and consequently contributed to the emergence of the Gambian republic.
And this conception has more to do with practical political reality than ideology. PDOIS is responding to the political realities that have shaped and dictated the Gambian political situation for almost 50 years.
It has thus articulated its vision of how to respond to the needs and aspirations of the Gambian state and its citizenry, as well as how this mission is to be prosecuted and achieved.
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 May 2014 : 16:38:06
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Rene, their Vision is their vision and I am not taking issue with them on that. It is for the Gambian people to judge on that. However, when it comes to coalition with other parties, PDOIS needs to accept that it is not going to be their vision or desire that will exclusively dictate that process. The process will have to be governed by the fundamental principles that underpin coalition politics and in line with international standards and practices.
PDOIS also need to explain how their Agenda 2016 is different from their Agenda 2011 particularly on the vexed questions of formula and the absurd primary election concept. You don't want to tell me that they have just put an old wine in a new bottle, do you? If they do not change position on these two key issues, it will be my conclusion that do not want to coalesce with the UDP, and I am sure a lot of people will make similar conclusions.
UDP accepted some key elements of pdois's agenda 2011 such as the 5yr transition element and the element relating to the successful coalition candidate not seeking re-election and/ supporting a candidate in the subsequent election. None of these concessions were reciprocated by PDOIS. That kind of attitude don't yield anything good in coalition politics and it is about time PDOIS understands this. They must be willing to accommodate elements if not all of other party proposals for we cannot have a coalition that is based on the totality of Halifa's will, which is exactly what PDOIS asked for in 2011. It is unrealistic and unacceptable.
All parties have a right to craft a vision for the nation and that includes PDOIS.
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I do not oppose unity but I oppose dumb union. |
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sankalanka
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Posted - 23 May 2014 : 19:17:18
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All opposition political parties have to accept the fact that they cannot negotiate from a position of strength. No matter what they want to call it: international standards and practices that underpin coalition politics. Because none of them have that strength, otherwise there would have been no need to call for a coalition.
This negates the basis for the legitimate expression of any desire for a party-led coalition. The fundamental principle that should govern a coalition process, therefore, must be one that is responsive to the needs and aspirations of the Gambian people.
PDOIS has articulated its vision of what is responsive to the needs and aspirations of the Gambian people. Other opposition political parties likewise can do the same.
What, however, is not reasonable and credible is to ask other opposition political parties to enter into a coalition with another opposition political party, with the express intention of helping that party to win an election, thereby dictating the scope and content of any reform agenda.
A party-led coalition allows the party that leads the coalition to exclusively form a government. It may or may not honor any agreements or memorandums of understanding it enters with its coalition partners, has the legitimacy to govern and is only answerable to the people.
What should make such a government different from the first and second republics?
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Momodou
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Posted - 26 May 2014 : 07:54:50
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PDOIS’Agenda 2016: A Robust Policy for Political Change, Democracy and Development
Change, under any circumstance, must register the support of the people in order to be effective and serve as a vehicle for the lasting transformation of any society. As a machinery change thus requires the approval, involvement and participation of the people. Therefore every organization that seeks to transform a society cannot afford to do so at the back of the people. Hence, contrary to claims of delusion and impracticality of PDOIS’ Agenda 2016 policy statement, the evidence in and around the dynamics of the struggle for change and democracy suggests a different story.
What the PDOIS agenda entails is a robust and proactive program that realistically and expediently seeks to walk the Gambia out of its current governance predicament and lack of development. That is why the policy recognizes the fact that “since 1965 the Gambia had never had a democratic transfer of power from one party or person to another”. It points at the absence of democratic electoral practices as the culprit and impediment to the emergence of a functioning multiparty system that is capable of ensuring a smooth and democratic change of government and transfer of power.
In response to this fact PDOIS proposes two practical approaches to tackle the problem. This is why the party is calling for electoral reform and has mapped out practical means through which that can be attained.
Furthermore, and to cast’s aside the false and empty charge of delusion of the Agenda, the realization that the authority to effect electoral reform is not entirely in its hands, PDOIS will not vacate the political space and sit idly by to allow the status quo go unchallenged.
PDOIS’ second tactical approach is to engage the people and mobilize them as the ultimate agents of change who can confront and end the misery in which they are forced to live in. There is no other approach that is more practical and realistic than this.
But in Gambian Diaspora politics unfortunately, it is demagogues and false prophets that hold sway in public political discourses thereby clouding every genuine attempt and clamor for change. This informs the state of mindset and judgment in matters of Gambian public discourse. With these fallacies, one need not look any further in the quest to uncover the secret hindering the effective participation of Diaspora Gambians in the battle for political change and democratization.
Chief among these fallacies is the reasoning that any other approach other than the violent confrontation of the Jammeh government is not a viable approach to effect change in the Gambia. This same reasoning is what informs and persuades the association of many Diaspora Gambians to the clamor of armed insurgency by Sidia Bayo. He played the fool on many Gambians through empty rhetoric and the deceptive use of the media.
It is this same tactic that is yet again being played by another group, who are well aware that trotting this old terrain and harping on the same old singsong of “boldness” and “firmness”, will garner them some attention. And it is no wonder that there are cheerleaders of these demagogues’ posturing and claiming to represent the solution to Gambia’s political problems.
It is important to note that people have the prerogative to believe in whatever means of effecting change in the Gambia. But it is also equally the democratic right of every other Gambian to propagate what they consider to represent the solution to our common national problems. What is wrong, however, is the utilization of a medium of mass communication to attack and disparage decent citizens and their endeavors.
The very reason why PDOIS’ Agenda 2016 is necessary and feasible is because of the existence and nature of the“[un]responsive regime” in Banjul. What therefore needs to be understood is that agents of change do not exist or become relevant when their opponents are responsive to their demands. Rather, their relevance is necessitated by the very existence of those unresponsive demands that stand in the way of the freedom and development of the people.
What is important for the Gambian people to know is that PDOIS is genuinely committed to ending the current status quo and replacing it with a genuine and responsive people centered government. A government that caters for the well being and development of its people. It is this message that the party has shared through the media after launching the Agenda at a mass rally in Barrow Kunda, Wuli West.
This agenda which is an abridged version of what will form part of PDOIS’ programs, principles and policies for change, democracy and development from now and beyond, is a program that encompasses the ideals of the founding of our nation since 1965 but has continually eluded us since then.
The struggle to usher in the 3rd Republic is rooted in the ideals and spirit of true republicanism. A republic that is responsive to the development needs and aspirations of the Gambian citizenry. This is what PDOIS’ Agenda 2016 seeks to attain.
First, by seeking to effect political change through the strategic and collective participation of all the forces of change. And secondly, by outlining a development program that as a party, when entrusted with the responsibility to manage the affairs of the country, will vigorously pursue to develop the country and its people. This is the task that PDOIS has set out to offer to the Gambian people and the choice now rest before them.
As for us we will not be found wanting in our duty and responsibility to our nation. For the Gambian our homeland, the struggle continues.
Modou Nyang,
For The PDOIS Diaspora Branches |
A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone |
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
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Posted - 30 May 2014 : 15:57:13
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Rene, I was not going to respond to your last posting because you only confirm there what I already know; which is, PDOIS is merely putting forward proposals out of spite for the UDP and that is exactly what you just confirm here.
There is nothing in what PDOIS offers in terms of being responsive to the needs of the gambian people that cannot be achieved under a UDP led allaince. As a matter of fact, the UDP position is for inclusiveness of all parties, and that means your notion about helping UDP to come to power is ill-conceived.
My position remains that the coalition formula espoused in pdois's Agenda 2011 lacks justification and that it is right that it was rejected.
I cannot comment on their Agenda 2016 because their position on opposition unity in that document is not elaborate enough for me to make anything out of it. I hope when they expand on their position, they will not be presenting to us a replica of Agenda 2011 because that can only create yet another undesirable fiat accompli, which will not be in the interest of the nation and the opposition in particular.
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I do not oppose unity but I oppose dumb union. |
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sankalanka
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Posted - 31 May 2014 : 03:16:46
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"Rene, I was not going to respond to your last posting because you only confirm there what I already know; which is, PDOIS is merely putting forward proposals out of spite for the UDP and that is exactly what you just confirm here."
No, Daffeh, I think you are wrong. I don't think PDOIS has any ill will for the UDP or any other opposition political party for that matter. PDOIS's position on the future of the Gambia has been conceptualized and formulated well before the emergence of the UDP.
Since from its inception PDOIS has acknowledged two fundamental developments that are pivotal in establishing the Gambian state and its evolution. One has already taken place: the nationalist movement that has struggled to gain our country Independence and Republican status. The second has not yet taken place: it is the democratic struggle that will see our country consolidate a true democratic dispensation and culture.
It is this second struggle that PDOIS has been engaged in since its formation. Therefore its principles and polices must be understood within the context of this objective. It is a very fundamental objective the reason why the party has been so consistent in its orientation. And it is also why a lot of people tend to support them still even after almost three decades and not garnering a significant percent of the vote.
Some may view their position as idealistic and Utopian, but there is nothing in its conceptual framework and disposition that doesn't reflect the concrete realities of our political situation and the solution that can best respond to its ramifications.
"There is nothing in what PDOIS offers in terms of being responsive to the needs of the gambian people that cannot be achieved under a UDP led allaince."
How so? Try and convince us. How will a UDP government be different from both the first and second republics?
And why is it not possible that the UDP can support a compromise candidate for all of the opposition parties under any other arrangement besides a party-led option; have a rectification program under a coalition government and since the UDP is the majority party will assuredly be elected into office after the rectification program.
By conceding to this historical necessity, the UDP can help the Gambia evolve to be a true democratic country. It will just add to the greatness of your party and not diminish it.
"As a matter of fact, the UDP position is for inclusiveness of all parties, and that means your notion about helping UDP to come to power is ill-conceived."
The problem is we have an executive presidency under our system of governance. Once elected a president you are not answerable to anyone but the people who can only remove you from power. The national assembly can pass a motion of no confidence but it will have to be supported by the people.
We have seen examples of executive presidencies in Africa and how they tend to consolidate and control power. Most of these people never leave on their own. The problem is not a lack of trust of the UDP but more to do with the political culture and structures that we have in pace.
"My position remains that the coalition formula espoused in pdois's Agenda 2011 lacks justification and that it is right that it was rejected."
But what is the alternative? To continue to participate in elections and be loosing continuously.
And my fear is that by refusing to do what is practical and realistic for all the opposition parties concern, what would have been the outcome of their strategic cooperation and unity, will be done for them from the most unlikely of places: the ruling government. You want a second round of voting and term limits, they can be forced by the exigencies of the political forces that are working against them within and outside to concede on these key elements.
"I cannot comment on their Agenda 2016 because their position on opposition unity in that document is not elaborate enough for me to make anything out of it. I hope when they expand on their position, they will not be presenting to us a replica of Agenda 2011 because that can only create yet another undesirable fiat accompli, which will not be in the interest of the nation and the opposition in particular."
This is the reason why the document is now being studied to improve on it, and you are hereby invited to critique the document or offer any suggestions on how it can be improved.
This is the reason also why the PDOIS diaspora members took the initiative to further explain the document in the statement they have released above.
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
1382 Posts |
Posted - 31 May 2014 : 13:07:04
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Rene, you said you don't think PDOIS has any ill feeling towards UDP. Really? You must be deluded then. In 2001, PDOIS refused to join a UDP led allaince because, in Halifa's words, UDP should not have existed in the first place since PDOIS was already there and those who formed the UDP should have joined PDOIS instead of forming their own party. That is a cool comment to you, right?? There are more of this kind of comments from Halifa which all points to a strong disdain for the UDP. For PDOIS, the UDP effectively stole their show and rendered their 30yr struggle meaningless. This is how they see things.
I know that at this moment, PDOIS is very much interested in seeing reactions from people but they have not given us anything to talk about as they did not elaborate on their position on opposition unity in their so-called Agenda 2016. Until they are able to do so, I think it's prudent that people reserve their comments because as it stands now, nobody can make anything out of their position because it is vaguely articulated and not expanded upon. I therefore, can only caution them against putting forward a replica of their Agenda 2011 for that can only bring about the type of fiat accompli we have seen in 2011; a ghastly political stalemate that serves no good for the country or the opposition itself.
None of the things you talked about above were expressed in PDOIS's document as a justification for whatever type of alliance they would like to see formed. So I rather not waste my time on that. All I can say is that no coalition agreement is ever legally binding and that means if PDOIS doesn't trust the UDP, it should not seek to coalesce with them, period. The UDP will not allow the integrity of its leaders and presidential candidate to be questioned in the name of forging an opposition alliance with a fringe party like PDOIS.
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 31 May 2014 : 21:54:16
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Originally posted by Nyarikangbanna
The UDP will not allow the integrity of its leaders and presidential candidate to be questioned in the name of forging an opposition alliance with a fringe party like PDOIS.
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1. Related Bantaba topic UDP Leadership Raised Eyebrows & Crises Alert
2. O.J. was RIGHT in 2006 that UDP and Leader Lawyer Ousainou Darboe leaving NADD "IS A POLITICAL SUICIDE"; from 2006 to-date resulting in;
- UDP disintegrating and becoming weaker & weaker; with SPEND FORCES CONTINUOUSLY BATTERED & TRAGEDIES THAT FOLLOWED! May lion late Shyngle Nyassi R.I.P. Ameen
- Producing spend forces especially all of its dynamic leaders are gone leaving a poor legacy; without politically achieving NOTHING FOR THE PARTY & COUNTRY!
- culminating in more abduction, arrests, brutalisation, disappearances of militants and incarceration of Femi Peters and Amadou Sanneh (being left to suffer hard labour, torture & FAITH IN HAND OF GOD)
- Ineffectiveness of fragmented opposition front, weak opposition and lack of electoral reform
- Diaspora disfranchise and a major burden for opposition lingering on; among other problems of fragmented opposition front & disunity
- Effectively one party state, APRC in total control, suppression of dissent and absolute power of a despot
- APRC GROWING BIGGER & BIGGER through all arms of government, Law enforcement agencies, Regional Governors, Chiefs, Alkalos, Imams, Community leaders and its mobilisation machinery well oiled & grease!
- Allowing entrenchment of dictatorship, more hostile political climate, fear, state terror, sycophancy, cronyism, a puppet government, abuse of power, impunity, more repressive laws (especially the monarchical Law on Sedition) and injustice continue to rule
3. Sankalanka leave this ARROGANT KID (NYARIKANGBANNA AKA SS DAFFEEH) IN HIS DELUSION WORLD; FOCUSED ON CONTEMPT, DECEPTION, MALICIOUS SLANDERS, TREACHERY & WRITING HIS OWN SCRIPT; because "this cause is bigger than him, any individual or group of individuals, elites, cabal, clique, cronies, opposition political party, party leader, ethnic group and/or tribe"
 
4. Can we (i.e. ANY OPPOSITION POLITICAL PARTY or UNITED NATIONAL OPPOSITION FRONT) remove Dictator Jammeh through these ballots?
5. Another very interesting point/proposal with PDOIS Agenda 2016 that should not be overlook; is giving extended political lifeline to UDP leader Lawyer Ousainou Darboe to contest Presidency 2016 by addressing or advocating that ".... upper age limits barring candidature are eradicated to enable interested parties to test their popularity and leave the electorate to decide the fate of political leaders."; after it's reported in The Standard News that Darboe promises a 'formidable' new leader for UDP "; and that ...his party will proffer a new candidate for 2016 presidential elections, who will be “more formidable” than himself. He however stopped short of mentioning the name for now, arguing that it may endanger the person somehow. " |
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sankalanka
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Posted - 01 Jun 2014 : 16:29:41
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"Rene, you said you don't think PDOIS has any ill feeling towards UDP. Really? You must be deluded then."
Daffeh, I made this observation because I know that PDOIS has never reacted to any situation based on impulse. They always carefully study a given situation, consider its merits and demerits before they form an opinion on that situation based on the facts and the material circumstances existing at the time. Their opinions in most instances are objective driven.
"In 2001, PDOIS refused to join a UDP led allaince because, in Halifa's words, UDP should not have existed in the first place since PDOIS was already there and those who formed the UDP should have joined PDOIS instead of forming their own party. That is a cool comment to you, right??"
Why did PDOIS refused to join a UDP-led alliance? Why would the UDP think that PDOIS would join a UDP-led alliance? And the word 'refuse' is a misnomer in this instance because PDOIS is not obligated to join any alliance in the first place.
Secondly, the words that you are attributing to Halifa as to the formation of the UDP is completely out of context.
In 1996, the military junta established the APRC as a political party. When the ban was lifted on political parties, the major political parties of the first republic namely: the P.P.P, the NCP and the GPP were banned from registering as political parties. Only PDOIS and the PDP from the first republic were allowed to register their political parties.
The leadership of the political parties that were banned, PPP, NCP and GPP were faced with three choices.
First choice: Allow those members of their parties who were not affected by the ban to register their parties under a different name.
Second choice: rally around the parties that were not banned namely PDOIS and give them their maximum support so that they can defeat the APRC,
And the third choice: to come up with a brand new political party.
They finally opted for the third choice and the UDP was born. The result was a split among these three first republic parties into two camps. One camp supported the APRC and the other camp supported the UDP.
Notwithstanding, had the first republic political parties supported PDOIS, the PDOIS would have agreed to create the most democratic constitution and electoral system and call for elections in which all political parties can participate. It is in the context of this historical reality that Halifa would have made that statement.
"There are more of this kind of comments from Halifa which all points to a strong disdain for the UDP."
No wonder you are so obsessed with the person of Hallifa. Halifa this and Halifa that. Halifa, Halifa, Halifa.
"For PDOIS, the UDP effectively stole their show and rendered their 30yr struggle meaningless. This is how they see things."
This statement is far from the truth, because the UDP is not in a better position politically than PDOIS. They have more votes in elections but cannot win the elections.
In fact, PDOIS is the party that is staying on top of the issues shaping and guiding the political evolution towards a third republic. They are relevant today as they have been 30 years ago.
"I know that at this moment, PDOIS is very much interested in seeing reactions from people but they have not given us anything to talk about as they did not elaborate on their position on opposition unity in their so-called Agenda 2016."
The Agenda 2016 in my opinion has two parts. The first part deals with electoral reform and opposition unity.
The second part is a policy statement on the type of government that PDOIS wants to build if it succeeds in getting the mandate to govern the country. At lest the party is telling the people what it will do if the people elect them into office.
The UDP's concern should deal with the first part. PDOIS is suggesting that if there is no electoral reform, and even if there is electoral reform, the opposition political parties should meet and decide on one presidential candidate to contest the 2016 elections.
What is or will be the reaction of the UDP? This is what people are waiting to see. Tell the Gambian people what you want to do. And please don't come up with a party-led alliance. I will never comment again on that front.
"Until they are able to do so, I think it's prudent that people reserve their comments because as it stands now, nobody can make anything out of their position because it is vaguely articulated and not expanded upon."
PDOIS's position is clear. What again do you want from them? Where is the UDP's statement on the 2016 elections that is not vaguely articulated and is expanded upon?
"I therefore, can only caution them against putting forward a replica of their Agenda 2011 for that can only bring about the type of fiat accompli we have seen in 2011; a ghastly political stalemate that serves no good for the country or the opposition itself."
Why instead can't the UDP come up with their own agenda for 2016 that will not create a political stalemate and serves the good of the country and the opposition parties?
"None of the things you talked about above were expressed in PDOIS's document as a justification for whatever type of alliance they would like to see formed. So I rather not waste my time on that."
Because you are too busy shadowing Halifa that you have not been listening and reading carefully what PDOIS has been saying and writing for the last 30 years.
"All I can say is that no coalition agreement is ever legally binding and that means if PDOIS doesn't trust the UDP, it should not seek to coalesce with them, period."
PDOIS's position is clear. The choice is now yours.
"The UDP will not allow the integrity of its leaders and presidential candidate to be questioned in the name of forging an opposition alliance with a fringe party like PDOIS."
Good for you. Then go ahead and do what you have to do.
All I know is that fringe party is a very formidable part of the political process and have been guiding and shaping the political evolution of this country since its formation. They have been there and will always be there.
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kobo
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Originally posted by sankalanka
Daffeh, ....Because you are too busy shadowing Halifa that you have not been listening and reading carefully what PDOIS has been saying and writing for the last 30 years.
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Sorry Sankalanka, a 1994 GHS young school lad and now in his early 30s is debating with you on Gambian politics.
AN ARROGANT KID AND HOODWINKER THAT BECAME THE BIG PROPONENT OF "PARTY-LED"; MISLEADING UDP; ESPECIALLY ITS LEADERSHIP WITH THIS NON-CREDIBLE OR NON-PLAUSIBLE UNITED NATIONAL FRONT STRATEGY OF OPPOSITION FRONT FOR A COMMON GOAL OR "MERGER OF POLITICAL PARTIES" TACTICAL ALLIANCE; ACHIEVABLE IN SPIRIT OF "NATIONAL UNITY" & SOLIDARITY" FUNDAMENTALLY. LOL |
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