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toubab1020



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Posted - 07 Oct 2013 :  16:37:53  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"Culture is a distinct way in which people can live differently; it is a way of life for a people. It embodies their norms, their values, their customs and their traditions."


"Politics is both an art and a science. It is an art of persuasion; to win the hearts and minds of a people. It is a science of organization; to exert control over a community of people particularly a state."



I agree with the first quote,the second Nahhhh............ it'a all about power and money and being a good salesman ! (IN MOST CASES. !!)
I agree with this bit though" "to exert control over a community of people"


"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Janko

Gambia
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Posted - 26 Oct 2013 :  11:10:48  Show Profile  Visit Janko's Homepage Send Janko a Private Message  Reply with Quote
THE DEBATE ON TRIBE AND POLITICAL OUTCOMES IN THE GAMBIA
Foroyaa Editorial: Published on Thursday, 24 October 2013



THE FETISHISM OF ETHNO-LINGISTIC ORIGIN
It is strange that after five decades of Nationhood, Africans in their various countries are still making reference to tribe in determining National political outcomes. The Office of the President is occupied by one person who does not share his or her income with members of his ethno- linguistic origin. In the Gambia, the offices of Ministers are 18 in number. Those who occupy it do not share their income with members of their ethno-linguistic origin. The position of Permanent Secretaries and Directors could be counted. Hence the top bureaucrats constitute a miniscule of the population. The vast Majority of people, irrespective of ethno-linguistic origins, depend not on Government posts to survive. .....................

Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy
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toubab1020



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Posted - 26 Oct 2013 :  16:53:41  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It would certainly be a very limited world if there were not divergent opinions on all subjects.

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

Edited by - toubab1020 on 26 Oct 2013 16:54:09
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Sister Omega



United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 May 2014 :  19:57:32  Show Profile  Visit Sister Omega's Homepage Send Sister Omega a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What's the big deal about African Fulbe, Fulas are one of the biggest Ethnic Groups in Africa, traditionally residing in 17 African Countries. The UNESCO in the 1970's supported Fulbe to translate Pulaar language from Egyptian Hieroglyphics. The Fulbe have a narrative as they have been displaced through colonialism as a nomadic group then coming together has been problematic for centuries. However today African Fulbe on Facebook is a positive idea. To conserve cultural heritage it doesn't take anything away from their Nationality it will just enhance their ethnicity.

Peace
Sister Omega
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Janko

Gambia
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Posted - 16 May 2014 :  08:38:36  Show Profile  Visit Janko's Homepage Send Janko a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks Sister, you are right in all you said.
Colonialism has affected all Africa and Africans, in one way or the other.

But since 50-60 years Africa is composed of independent "Nation-states".
These nation-states are not inhabited by a single languagegroup but by many.
This is the narrative of Africa today, for better or for worse.

I grew up in a bilingual village, where we converse in two languages, in the conversation some points are better expressed in one language and others in the other language, so we keep sifting between two languages. It’s a wonderful feeling.
Never has there been an activity exclusively for one languagegroup. Reasonably, all activities are collective, mentally and physically. I am proud to speak fluent Poular.

No languagegroup is stagnant; that it has been the same since time began. So, to imply that a particular languagegroup is stagnant and frozen in time is problematic in many ways. The idea goes against all laws of nature. And by claiming purity, one is excluding others based on a false claim. To propagate or advocate for an idea that is not reflecting everyday reality, but purely ideological is not only illusive but risky. History has lots of such examples.

So, the point in focus is who is included and who is excluded in such a transnational network and what are the consequences of such differentiation, in the long run? To be able to make such distinction one needs to describe the requirements, criteria. It is this defining moment that breeds prejudice, which in turn puts the identity of existing nation states in jeopardy. This is my fear, not a question of wrong or right, if you get my drift.

Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy
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kobo



United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 May 2014 :  20:50:25  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Janko True HARD TALK AND REALITY CHECKS DONE!

Edited by - kobo on 16 May 2014 23:03:17
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Sister Omega



United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 May 2014 :  23:31:26  Show Profile  Visit Sister Omega's Homepage Send Sister Omega a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Pulaar ties the Fulbe together although there are various strands of the language. As a traditionally nomadic group with the continent being divided. The Fulbe have organised events to unit them in celebrating their language and culture. What's wrong with that likewise any other group celebrating and strengthening their diversity.Whether they be Mandinka, Jola, Serehauli etc. Yes we have Berlin Conference boundaries. But as the whole of Africa knows there are the National boundaries, and the indigenous ones i.e. Fulas living in Gambia have families in Senegal, Mauritania Guinea Conkray etc. With the Mandinka coming originally from the Bantu from DRC and Zimbabwe. There are similarities and differences within languages. Indigenous languages need to continue to progress or they will become obsolete. One of Africa's many gifts is its people being to pick and converse in many languages. Now how many first language speakers can say that. I am not going down the negative route of tribalism that is one divide and rule tactic. That has disenfranchised Africans from their natural resources and impoverished us all.

Peace
Sister Omega
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Janko

Gambia
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Posted - 21 May 2014 :  13:37:24  Show Profile  Visit Janko's Homepage Send Janko a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks, Sister, your points are well noted.

As we all know there is a thinline between FaceBook and Reality, I mean, the Arab-Spring.

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