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toubab1020
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 Posted - 23 Oct 2010 : 14:48:40
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So its starting,I see that H.E. is clued up on Chinese workmanship when Yankuba Colley, Mayor of the Kanifing Municipality, says "He urged the contractors to live up to expectations as endorsed in the contract document, noting that President Yahya Jammeh does not compromise with standards." In previous times Chinese building has had a limited life
http://thepoint.gm/africa/gambia/article/kmc-hands-over-us335m-tipper-garage-fish-project-site
See also topic:http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9883
KMC hands over US3.35M Tipper Garage fish project site
africa » gambia
Friday, October 22, 2010
The Kanifing Municipal Council yesterday handed over the Tipper Garage in Bakoteh to the Ministry of Fisheries and Water Resources for the proposed construction of a fish market.
The colourful handing over ceremony, held at the Garage, was followed by the signing of a US$3.35 million project between the Fisheries ministry and Guangxi International Construction Engineering Corp Gambia Limited for the construction of the fish market. Funded by the African Development Bank, the project will last 13 months effective October 2010.
In his handing over statement, Yankuba Colley, Mayor of the Kanifing Municipality, noted that the execution of the project would have a direct positive impact on the livelihood of those that make the productive base of the national economy functional.
According to him, the fishing industry in the country remains under the monopoly of aliens, much to the disadvantage of the nation as a developing country.
"With the establishment of the fish marketing project, the marketing of fish, which is quite fundamental to the sustenance of the fishing sector, will be greatly enhanced and will equally create employment opportunities for many more people," he said.
Mayor Colley added that the site is very ideal, as it connects Sererkunda as one of the country's nerve centres for local trade, to the coastal settlements, where 90% of local fishing activity takes place.
The mayor made it clear to the previous occupants of the Tipper Garage that neither the government nor the KMC has anything against them.
"We are aware that this place has been a source of livelihood for the past decades, and we have an obligation as authorities to ensure that we do not become obstacles to our own cause of advancement by negating the government's development agenda," he stated.
In handing over the site to the contractor (Guangxi International Construction), the permanent secretary Ministry of Fisheries and Water Resources, Amadou Saine, underscored the importance of the fish market project.
According to Saine, the government of the Gambia is committed to infrastructure development and, as a result, such developments are top on its development agenda. He urged the contractors to live up to expectations as endorsed in the contract document, noting that President Yahya Jammeh does not compromise with standards.
Peter Ndow, the project consultant, revealed that the project will have an administration building, chill storage facility for fish and vegetables, car park, waste disposal facility, fish and vegetable stall, among others.
Author: Abdourahman Sallah
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 24 Oct 2010 : 22:25:03
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lol toubab
You sound alarmed! reminds me of arm chair view that most Europeans have of the increasingly important Sino-African trade relations!
i dont think they are coming: they have beeing here for decades! they have built several public and private facilities: secondly this is funded by the African Development Bank (ADB) as mentioned below, so they must have submitted a competitive bid and won!
CAN YOU GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF A CHINESE BUILDING THAT HAD A LIMITED LIFE?
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Momodou
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toubab1020
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Posted - 24 Oct 2010 : 22:47:21
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njucks
All I can say that some 20 years ago when the Chinese were in The Gambia,I think that I may well be talking in Jawara time,many of the buildings that were built were not good and after a few years developed cracks and were not fit for purpose,due to shoddy workmanship an probably concrete made of smaller quantities of cement that was recommended by the specification,the project is funded as you say,also as you say,a competitive tender was submitted,there is no doubt that Chinese will be employed in the project,so they are coming not in the sense of taking over the country but heavily involved in the project,nothing wrong with that,however H.E. has remembered construction projects that have been carried out under the Chinese before and was giving a reminder to the contractors that "He urged the contractors to live up to expectations as endorsed in the contract document, noting that President Yahya Jammeh does not compromise with standards." I remember the constructions of the past so I don't think your quote can apply to me, "reminds me of arm chair view that most Europeans have of the increasingly important Sino-African trade relations!" If the Chinese have become aware that things they produce or projects they build must be fit for purpose,great.
I know several people here in the UK who have machine parts made in China who are great at producing big lumps of machinery but quality finishing is not their strong point.
I have nothing against Chinese winning contracts if the items in question are builtTO SPECIFICATION and fit for purpose.
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toubab1020
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Posted - 24 Oct 2010 : 22:56:48
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Very good Momodou,you certainly have your finger on the pulse,great.
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 27 Oct 2010 : 06:16:26
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The chinese have been around since 1965. They can be found all over the country especially in rice cultivation. Infcat they were the first to explore the enire country for possibility of petroleum in the gambia. they surveyed the whole country in the 60s and found nothing. Their geological surveys are still available for viewing.
It was after their search, then the canadians also came for oil and found nothing. Well Africa is going to be the next front for natural resources as China is now second largest economy in the world recently if my memory serves me right. Issues of land, food production will manifest itself in Africa in the near future and thats why am still holding to my family land in yoro bawol. You never know when i will be laughing all the way to the bank - a retired GAINAKO.
Sounds like 'the British are coming" to me. the Chinese built most of the stadia in west Africa after independence. In the gambia they were based in Kanifing just by the KMC grounds and opposite to the Para military police station around Ice Man and banjul breweries. N and N was one of the earliest business outfits trading in clothing and shoes. naaning benji who dealt in aluminuim also comes to mind. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 27 Oct 2010 : 14:57:34
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Great to see you back KONS ,OK I admit that the title of the topic is wrong  however building and construction quality in the past was not their strong point,something that H.E. was aware of,hense his comments.Your other information is noted and is factually based,my fault for concentrating on construction and forgetting other Chinese projects. Your goal of holding onto family land is admirable,BUT to let such land lie dormant instead of using it for food production is not good and does not benefit The Gambia,it may well be that others who see unused land may not appriciate it being left unloved !
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Originally posted by kondorong
The chinese have been around since 1965. They can be found all over the country especially in rice cultivation. Infcat N was one of the earliest business outfits trading in clothing and shoes. naaning benji who dealt in aluminuim also comes to mind...........
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mansasulu
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Posted - 27 Oct 2010 : 16:14:33
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toubab you still have not answered Njucks question...which i will restate
CAN YOU GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF A CHINESE BUILDING THAT HAD A LIMITED LIFE?
If the buildings were that many you should not have trouble coming up with examples... |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 27 Oct 2010 : 16:32:54
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Sorry I cannot, bearing in mind that was 20 years ago,all I can remember was that I THINK that they were private dwellings NOT large projects,I cannot assist further,if you are happy to score points on a failing memory then you have scored
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 27 Oct 2010 : 17:25:16
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Originally posted by toubab1020
Great to see you back KONS ,OK I admit that the title of the topic is wrong however building and construction quality in the past was not their strong point,something that H.E. was aware of,hense his comments.Your other information is noted and is factually based,my fault for concentrating on construction and forgetting other Chinese projects. Your goal of holding onto family land is admirable,BUT to let such land lie dormant instead of using it for food production is not good and does not benefit The Gambia,it may well be that others who see unused land may not appriciate it being left unloved !
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Originally posted by kondorong
The chinese have been around since 1965. They can be found all over the country especially in rice cultivation. Infcat N was one of the earliest business outfits trading in clothing and shoes. naaning benji who dealt in aluminuim also comes to mind...........
Toubaba
You keep me around. It seems to be working. Anyway, Yorobawol is far away, and with little resources at my disposal, i can only farm just as much as my resources can allow. Am a herdsman, and best at rearing cattle. farming is a sedentary life which am not used to. Always on the go. But i do allow others to use the land for free. Just that i reserve the ownership for my family.
You never know where the next oil well will be found. may be Yoro Bawol |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 27 Oct 2010 : 17:54:30
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"it may well be that others who see unused land may not appriciate it being left unloved !"
I note what you write,excellent no problem ,but please re read my words again to see what I mean
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 27 Oct 2010 : 22:22:37
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Kons,
good to see you around. and as always for the historical perspective. indeed we have had this China /Africa debate here before.Europe seems to be concerned (albeit patronisingly)about China's interest in Africa.
indeed Western companies are building/ have built several infrastructure in Africa that have not also been up to standard, these seen to slip through the ''RADAR''.
China offers new opportunites that Africans if wise can exploit for our mutual benefit.
the stadium is not the only one if we are to give STANDING examples: Supreme Court building in Bannjul, Police HQ in Buckle Street, new Medical and Health building in kotu... etc
we dont need to go into China's role in the LIBERATION struggles of several african countries. |
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