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Prince



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Posted - 12 Oct 2010 :  19:29:19  Show Profile Send Prince a Private Message
I was listening to a long conversation between my friends, one of them got back from Gambia a couple of days ago. They disagreed about the recent changes to prayer times decreed by the Supreme Islamic Council (SIC).

One of them commended the SIC for changing prayer times to the "proper" times. He applauded the SIC's general drive toward reforming faith within the country. He further argued that Islam in Gambia is too disorganized and filled with unislamic traditional practices.

The other fellow disagreed, he believes Gambian Islam is organized enough to be functional and maintain proper society. He went on to say the recent activities of the SIC constitute a power grab. He even accused the SIC of behaving like evangelical Christians for asking people to hand their Zakat to them for onward delivery. Saying that all Gambians know who the poor are and we don't need a chain of command to identify or help them.

He went to the argue that the SIC is self-contradicting, in that they asked people to fast with Makka when convenient a few weeks ago and they are now saying that we should not pray at the same times with Senegal because Gambia is a sovereign state. Overall, his argument are; the new pronouncements will cause unnecessary confusion, bureaucracy, and bring in a Rome-like-religious hierarchy within the country.

Anyways, after their long arguments I asked them basic questions which they could not answer... so i figured the knowledgeable out here would help me help them. I was wondering if prayers are any less valid when performed at specific times as opposed to the newly decreed "sun times?"

http://observer.gm/africa/gambia/article/imam-fatty-defends-sic-change-of-prayer-time

"When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes duty."

toubab1020



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Posted - 12 Oct 2010 :  20:27:28  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Religion is a subject that is personal,structures have been constructed in all religions to "help the faithful to manage" I think that in order to pray in any religion that is a personal choice therefore MY PERSONAL answer to your question is,:

Anytime is a good time to pray in whichever religion you believe in.

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Momodou



Denmark
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Posted - 12 Oct 2010 :  20:44:06  Show Profile Send Momodou a Private Message
Prince, we have different mosques here in Copenhagen and they all have their prayer times which are different from the other.

I have an iPhone with prayer applications and I see there are 7 different calculation methods namely:
1. Shi'ah Ithna Ashari (Ja'fari)
2. Isamic Society of Noth America (ISNA)
3. Muslim World League (MWL)
4. Uhm Al-Qura, Makkah
5. Egypitian General Authority of Survey
6. University of Islamic Sciences, Karachi
7. University of Teheran

There are two Asr Calculations to choose from namely Standard (Shafi, Maliki, Hanbal 'iasr calculation) and Hanafi 'asr calculation.

You will always get a different time depending on your choice. After consulting with a scholar I was advised to choose number 4 and the standard 'asr calculation and this gives me a time similar to one of the mosques and there are several minutes difference from other mosques.

Muslims start Ramadan on different days here too.


I think the current SIC Executive has become political and power drunk like their Sheikh.

A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone
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Prince



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Posted - 14 Oct 2010 :  00:10:52  Show Profile Send Prince a Private Message
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You will always get a different time depending on your choice. After consulting with a scholar I was advised to choose number 4 and the standard 'asr calculation and this gives me a time similar to one of the mosques and there are several minutes difference from other mosques.

Muslims start Ramadan on different days here too.


I think the current SIC Executive has become political and power drunk like their Sheikh.


That is what i thought too... it is just a little hard for me to stomach the idea that such respectable elders would have hidden ulterior motives. General Powell said, "if it ain't broken, don't fix it."

"When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes duty."
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