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shaka
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 Posted - 28 Apr 2010 : 01:25:59
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The above should be the opinion of someone who had just finished reading Mr Sallah's books. Unfortunately your state of mind would not permit you to tell the difference. Go cure your neurosis first before passing a hand on something you have no knowledge about. It seem like Wa keur doff are adding to their numbers too. What a pity!!! Somehow you would have to live through the events of history before you are qualified to write about them. We are still waiting for Musa Molloh, Foday Kabba Dumbya and other historical figure to publish their account. In the mean time we continue to listen to and will ever be grateful to the generations of Griots, historians and academics to fill the void. What stupidity!!!!quote:
Originally posted by Nyarikangbanna
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Originally posted by kayjatta
, and I am sure Halifa's book will offer you a complementary, if not an alternative, assessment of Gambian history; perhaps from the unique perspective of a sociologist and a politician.
I am afraid it didn't. It merely took me back to Gambia High School where I learnt all the stuff he talked about. Nothing complimentary; nothing alternative.
The truth is, this book has fallen short of expectations and does not worth a place in the library shelves. It certainly did not measure up to the standard of His Excellency D.K Jawara's 'Kairaba' or Berkeley Rice's 'The birth of an improbable nation’. Even Dawda Faal's [a former history teacher at Muslim High School] history lecture pamphlets are more intriguing than this.
Kind regards
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Moe
USA
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Posted - 28 Apr 2010 : 06:23:47
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After the rendezvous with terrorist and know common criminals I doubt If Mr Sallah has anything to offer the masses now a days ,be it a book, a lecture or whatever. If a politician so desperate can resort to collaborating with criminals that brings to question the ethical and social believes of that individual. I do understand that PDOIS is dedicated to overthrowing an established order and replacing it with a new political or social structure, basically their imaginary ideologies of what a perfect society is but am assuming with less than a 5% margin,they have not been very successful in wining the hearts of the people. The way I see it through out their existence or inception as a party it seems that they have been advocating for revolutionary methods to achieve their goals and that is evident.
If Halifa is willing to be honest to himself Instead of calling for Justice and Fair play in Gambia ,I would assume he should have started addressing the terrorist and cyber clowns he was associating with. Most of them are wanted men in Gambia and for a desperate politician to use terrorist groups as a mouth piece is a total turn off for me. These gentlemen add no value to anything of substance nowadays ,they are like worn out tires failing to grip the road. I would like to assume that The Radio Tam Tam meeting went well and all kinds of promises were made. Having the 4 executive clowns from cyberspace was really capturing.
Now this gives the opportunistic half baked terrorist hiding under the auspice of Journalism songs to sing about ,They are actually associated with most of the opposition and sometimes even host them. The idea is to use whatever ammmo they can find to undermine the President who is believed to have won the elections illegitimately. well well you fools ,It's amazing that ya'll all like to make love to each other when you deem fit.
As a Political leader halifa should be aware of the circumstances surrounding hanging with known criminals,ya'll ain't fooling anybody if you ask me . NADD can build it's own websites and host it's own radio shows, associating with known criminals is all calculated simply because it will give the opposition that credibility they are lacking.
Instead of writing a book ,Halifa should be busy re-evaluating his Party. It seems that when all failed and they could not get to the president they decided to strike at the populace calling it voter apathy. I doubt it was voter aparthy Mr Sallah . Most Gambians are simply disgusted at your unconventional ways Period. I used to belive that you were potentially the next best thing but you have proven otherwise.
http://www.freedomnewspaper.com/Homepage/tabid/36/mid/367/newsid367/5158/Breaking-News-Gambia-JAMMEHS-COCAINE-SALE-SCANDAL-ON-RADIO-TAM-TAM/Default.aspx |
I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
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Posted - 28 Apr 2010 : 15:13:31
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Originally posted by Janko
Kay
“…"if a man can write a better book, or preach a better sermon than his neighbor, even if he build his house in the woods; the world will make a beaten path to his door"…”
I like that, because it puts emphasis on “a better book” being more relevant, not the location of the house. It matters from which position and or purpose a book is written. Hence, knowledge in chemistry for example, is found in books on the subject and if one is to choose between two books on the subject, one would most likely choose the one written by a practitioner that has concrete experience from the field and not one without illustrations.
Interestingly, as you said, history itself is not objective. Therefore every book is a contribution to the bits and pieces that make it. But what makes a particular book better or relevant is the content and that it produces new knowledge, new perspective, new information and not a replication. For example a book on Christianity is not a replication of the bible.
Janko, this is exactly my point. Unfortunately the disciples would either not see this or would deliberately choose not to acknowledge it. No wonder some of them here would rather peddle insults rather than debate the substantive issue. They have chosen hysteria over commonsense to be the guarding master of their conscience.
As for your reference to Suratul Sovereignty of People, my friend hasn't come back to me yet. I suspect this is as a result of his dispondency with the chips and fish publication that was launched last sunday. Anyway, I shall report back as and when possible.
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kayjatta
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Posted - 28 Apr 2010 : 15:49:25
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You know Halifa has published two books already, both were launched successfully with important people in attendance all of whom acknowledged the relevance of the book. No amount of criticism can take that away(and don't get me wrong; your criticism is highly welcome and your personal baseless objection to whatever the man does is your inalienable right also...).
Halifa is a history maker, and has often defined history in his own terms. He has just stated in his newly pub;lished book that "history must be based on facts, not fiction". UDP, for all of these years has not even produced a pamphlet much more a book, but as true restorationist and sectarians, they will deny everything and just run off with Sir Dawda's "Kairaba".
Instead of just brushing off Halifa's book as irrelevant, a book that you have not even read yet; a book that has been meitculously simplified for you (high scool level) to understand; we challenge UDP to come out of the Senegalses Embassy and produce one pamphlet to set the record straight. Come on we are waiting... |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 28 Apr 2010 : 17:15:26
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Originally posted by Nyarikangbanna
Janko, this is exactly my point. Unfortunately the disciples would either not see this or would deliberately choose not to acknowledge it. No wonder some of them here would rather peddle insults rather than debate the substantive issue. They have chosen hysteria rather than commonsense to be the guarding master of their conscience.
As for your reference to Suratul Sovereignty of People, my friend hasn't come back to me yet. I suspect this is as a result of his dispondency with the chips and fish publication that was launched last sunday. Anyway, I shall report back as and when possible.
Kind regards
U DON'T SCORE ANY POINT YET APART FROM REPEATED DIRECT PERSONAL ATTACKS, HATRED, PETTINESS & TRYING TO DO WHATEVER METHODS OF DISTRACTIONS FROM THE ISSUES RELATED TO THIS TOPIC OF A NEW BOOK LAUNCHED LIKE ANY OTHER BOOK
JANKO IS ALWAYS TRYING TO DIS-CREDIT HALIFA FOR REASONS BEST KNOWN TO HIM. THE WAY I SEE IT IS GIVING US THE IMPRESSION THAT HALIFA IS WRONG WITH THE BOOKS HE WROTE. IF U FEEL BETTER EDUCATED THAN HALIFA OR HAVE REASONS TO CRITICISE HIM FROM WRITING GAMBIAN POLITICAL BOOKS PLEASE WRITE TO HIM DIRECT
WE ALREADY HEARD TWO MUSKETEERS AND ONE MORE IS LURKING BEHIND THE SCENES SOMEWHERE. WE KNEW THERE ARE THREE MUSKETEERS THAT PEDDLED JUNK AGAINST HALIFA; WHENEVER HE DESERVE CREDIT
U STARTED DEROGATORY REMARKS BEFORE THE BOOK CAME ON THE SHELVES OR EVEN READING IT THAT SHOWS YOUR CONTEMPT TO THE VALUES YOU WANT US TO RESPECT AS POTENTIAL AGGRESSIVE POLITICIAN OR SOUND DEMOCRAT THIS TOPIC IS NOT ABOUT HALIFA'S PERSONALITY, PDOIS/NADD OR UDP WHY CAN'T YOU TRY TO BE PROGRESSIVE & STOP BIGOTRY IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO OFFER BETTER THAN HALIFA PLEASE COMPLIMENT HIS EFFORTS & LEAVE HIM IN PEACE TO CONTINUE HIS CIVIC DUTIES & SERVICE TO THE NATION
WAR OF WORDS IS WASTE OF ENERGY. PLEASE VERIFY THE FACTS FROM THE FICTION & IN THE WORDS OF AUTHOR;" What I could say is that it answers all the questions one could ask about the evolution of the Gambian state and people. The book has delineated the facts and fiction of Gambian history. The most I could say is to offer to re-purchase any copy that a buyer wishes to sell back to me after reading it. I sincerely hold that no one would be willing to part with the book after reading a copy." Halifa
WHAT A GENEROUS OFFER TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT PERIOD!
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Janko
Gambia
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Posted - 28 Apr 2010 : 20:11:26
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Kobo, thanks
I am not mistaking the “work” for the “man”. It is about the game not the player.
I did not read the books, so, can’t say anything about them. I still want to know where to get them, please, if you know
Suratul Sovereignty of People is praise singing, if you can see the humour in it. Hence sura is making the phrase immortal, everlasting, endless
I read both books you mentioned and intending to join a study circle on the coming two. I think you would do a better job to enlighten, clarify, explain to Janko and others who are not as versed as you are, than putting them in closed boxes.
A friend once said, “If you do not write your history you will have none.”
Therefore, all books are a contribution to that history making. But they do not serve the same purpose, some are empirical evidences and others are authorities in their field, hence “a life story” and a “fact book" are two different evidences.
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Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2010 : 20:45:14
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JANKO SORRY WITH YOUR GIMMICKS! U GUYS TRY TO PREEMPT THE BOOK LAUNCHING WITH ALL KIND OF INGENIOUS LABEL & DENOUCIATION WITHOUT EVEN READING IT
IF INTERESTED TO BUY OR READ IT DON'T FORGET AUTHOR'S GENEROUS OFFER FOR A REFUND OF YOUR MONEY GUARANTEED ANYTIME U WANT IT BACK
NO MORE JEALOUSY, PETTY & FUNNY MOVES PLEASE |
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Janko
Gambia
1267 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2010 : 21:03:09
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Kobo
remember, he who publishes a book is not bothered by critiques.
My teacher once told me, if you have no question after a lecture then you did not understand the lecture.
You did not tell me where to buy the books, yet.
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Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy |
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shaka
996 Posts |
Posted - 29 Apr 2010 : 03:24:22
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Hahahaha!!!! Ganye nge danu rab!!! Fooral gi!!! Tell the Sheikh to give GRTS back to the people to facilitate the disemination of diverse opinion, then you can open your daaba. Halifa Sallah is a public with a duty to share his opinion on public life in any medium that invites him to do so. "Terrorist and known common criminals" is a matter of opinion. Radio Tam Tam is a professional radio station that have been delivering quality and professional broadcasting over the years. And until the Sheikh releases GRTS, i would say this programme on the radio station is long overdue and i hope the broadcast can reach as many Gambians as possible. Suma sanyon it will be a broadcast from a resident Dakar radio station, so that all Gambians can have the opportunity to tune in to an alternative voice from the Kanilai Show in the Gambia. However like you, i am terribly dissapointed with Modibo's choice of anchor. Of all the good guys and girls in the US, he went and choose the imbecile of the century in Pa Nderry Mbai. The man is an empty parrot who has nothing to offer. He is embarassment and a digrace to The Gambia and Gambians. Doesn't the donkey like to praise himsell!!! I cannot believe he is bringing Freedom "Newspaper" stuff to the show while seemingly intelligent people lent him credence in that regard. He had publicly smeared and slandered Ousainou Darboe in the story of the runaway bride, on top of waking up a family man in ungodly hours to ask stupid questions. This is sickening!! Moe, you should be lauding Mr Sallah for giving the idi*t lessons about ethics in the dissemination of information. Innocent until proven guilty. A responsible journalist should not prejudice an ongoing trial. A professional journalist books an appointment with individuals especially public figure before hosting their opinion on a publice medium. Please save us from this nausea Modibo and Rajo Tam Tam!!!quote:
Originally posted by Moe
After the rendezvous with terrorist and know common criminals I doubt If Mr Sallah has anything to offer the masses now a days ,be it a book, a lecture or whatever. If a politician so desperate can resort to collaborating with criminals that brings to question the ethical and social believes of that individual. I do understand that PDOIS is dedicated to overthrowing an established order and replacing it with a new political or social structure, basically their imaginary ideologies of what a perfect society is but am assuming with less than a 5% margin,they have not been very successful in wining the hearts of the people. The way I see it through out their existence or inception as a party it seems that they have been advocating for revolutionary methods to achieve their goals and that is evident........
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Moe
USA
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Posted - 04 May 2010 : 18:48:26
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Lol, Shaka I hope you feel me now. This is the problem in dealing with incompetent terrorist and common criminals. Check out the following reply from Halifa ,I hope you understand the ethical implications in the first Place.
That’s Not What I expected—Halifa Sallah
That’s Not What I expected—Halifa Sallah
Freedom Editors Clarify
Pa Nderry:
That’s Not What I expected
When you called and requested to talk to me, I took the phone and conveyed to you that I was at a meeting and had no time to entertain an unscheduled interview. However, since you said that it was for a radio station and bearing in mind that I have never had an interview with you, I decided to yield, thinking that you were inviting me as a respectable public figure to express myself without fear or favour , affection or illwill on a topic of National importance., just as the BBC or the VOA does.
Little did I know that your intension was to use what I said as part of a programme which was designed to drown the very principles of presumption of innocence, which I advocated for, in a sea of indictments by press, on matters before the courts.
Allow me to reiterate that as an opposition leader I do expose all attempts by the executive to caricature the opponents of the Government. It is therefore equally binding on the opposition not to use indecent language against our opponents. You would agree with me that Prince Johnson has no moral authority to criticise Samuel Doe of savagery after mutilating his body before video cameras. I am of the opinion that those who have authority to criticise violators of human rights are those who are ready to afford them an opportunity to enjoy rights they deny others. I would have preferred for my views to stand alone instead of broadcasting my voice as part of a programme which did not involve me as a panelist and whose outcome I could not influence in any way.
I hope that you understand that the only thing I have left in the Gambia is myself respect and I will not allow this to be eroded by my desire to open up to every Gambian so as to promote inclusiveness in our political life.
Please publish this memorandum so that our supporters abroad can understand that we are true to our policy of relying on facts, figures, decency and principles in exercising our freedom of expression through the media. We want to practice what we preach.
Halifa Sallah
Source: Freedom newspaper |
I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
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shaka
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Posted - 04 May 2010 : 19:16:21
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 May 2010 : 19:35:11
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Freedom online newspaper clarify Gambia: That’s Not What I expected—Halifa Sallah
Moe! Halifa has clearly dis-associated himself to be manipulated in a terrorist game as described by yourself. Therefore you have not scored any point against Halifa!
Thanks for doing us a nice favour to forward Halifa's reactions on Freedom online newspaper spinning tactics or terrorists games of journalism
Many thanks for rejoinder!
HE WILL NEVER LET DOWN GAMBIANS OR COMPROMISE THE PRINCIPLES HE ADVOCATES!
LEAD BY EXAMPLE!
LONG LIVE HALIFA, FOROYAA & P.D.O.I.S TO FOWARD THE GAMBIA OUR HOMELAND! |
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