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Momodou



Denmark
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Posted - 04 Oct 2009 :  14:27:14  Show Profile Send Momodou a Private Message
By reading the Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's id-papers closely, the British newspaper The Daily Telegraph has found out about that he and his family have Jewish roots.

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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's vitriolic attacks on the Jewish world hide an astonishing secret, evidence uncovered by The Daily Telegraph shows.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/6256173/Mahmoud-Ahmadinejad-revealed-to-have-Jewish-past.html

A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone

tamsier



United Kingdom
558 Posts

Posted - 11 Oct 2009 :  04:30:03  Show Profile
Momodou,

Thanks for this. I couldn't stop laughing. This man is a hypocrite. The poor man hates himself. Bless! Where are all the Bantaba scholars?

Tamsier

Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.

Roog a fa ha.
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lurker



509 Posts

Posted - 11 Oct 2009 :  18:02:58  Show Profile Send lurker a Private Message
best thing i have read for ages! maybe he will now nuke his own family back in tel aviv. what a pitiful wreck of a little man he is.someone cart him off to the loony bin before he really does do something stupid.
ps did you note that he has sentenced three of the "objectors" to his election win to death!
not a prison sentence.
he is an evil little tryrant and should be removed.
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tamsier



United Kingdom
558 Posts

Posted - 11 Oct 2009 :  22:22:01  Show Profile
lurker,

'what a pitiful wreck of a little man he is'

I couldn't agree more.

Tamsier

Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.

Roog a fa ha.
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 11 Oct 2009 :  23:04:00  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
Not so fast. How ignorant. I don't care whether if he is a jew or not. He has very valid critics on Israel.

- He is right that the problem of Israel-Palestine is because of the bloodiest empire on the earth, the United Kingdom. He is right that Europe export their Jewish problem to Middle East. British Empire likes to use devilish methods in their colonies. For example, in Caribbean, the slaves they slaved started rebelling in Trinidad and Guyana. What Brits have done was, they allowed Indians from India to come these countries as a labor. Why, because divide and rule policies. You see Trinidad and Tobago and Guyana has high Indian population brought by British empire as part of divide and rule policy. Same with Kashmire issue. The majority of population is Muslim but they gave the India to rule. When British Empire ruled Palestine, Jordon, Egypt, they decided to export (get rid off) the Jewish problem from Europe to somewhere else. While they claim they are 'democratic and secular' state, they did not mind their religious belief (promise land for chosen people) dictated their foreign policy and they created the state of Israel in 3 years. With the mass migration starting 1945 to 1948. So, how can you blame Ahmedinejat saying that this is an issue, created by Europeans? If you are so concern about Jews, why not create Israel in Wales, or Scotland? Why do Muslim have to pay the price of European’s own bloody history on jews?

- He is right that Anti-Semitism is a originated from Christian Europe. During dark ages in Europe, Christians in Europe were burning Jews by Catholic inquisition. In fact, Ottoman Empire accepted first political refugees in the history of humanity, Jews escaping from Spanish Inquisition. Jews were protected during Ottoman Empire. They lived in Jerusalem for centuries under the protection of Muslims. The Jews in Turkey still speak Spanish language that has been spoken for languages. So anti-Semitism is not Persian, it is not Middle Eastern. In fact, it is a European. There was never jewish holocaust in middle east.

- There is a difference between anti-Jewish and anti-Israel. It is unfair to blame him being anti-Jewish. He is anti-Israel but I am not sure he is anti-Jewish. That is foreign to Muslim. Anti-Semitism is European thing. Anti-Israel is a new originated in Middleeast. But two are completely different. He is not the only one holocaust numbers are inflated. Your own British historians have similar theories. The hate of Jews is well known in Europe and USA by white supremacist.

- I think you are being unfair on nuke issue as well. Israel is the only country in the Middle East having nukes and your government has no objection on that. Israel also threatens to attack on Iran. Two of Iran's neighbors Iraq and Afghanistan are under USA and UK occupation. Israel has nuke, so it is natural Iran to have a nuke too. While I am supporting the nuclear free world, but isn't unfair by lurker has nothing to say about Israel, USA and your own country UK having nuke but not Iran. After all, nuclear bombed only used twice by USA in the history of humanity.

Me thinks Ahmedinejad is being scape-goat while you don't see your own flaws.

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.

Edited by - turk on 11 Oct 2009 23:05:40
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 12 Oct 2009 :  00:50:57  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
So the questions for you lurker?

Which country Iran has attack last 400 years?

Did Iran involve any slavery, colonization or holocoust?

Did Iran used any WMD in any country?

Did Iran supported any undemocratic regimes like Israel, South Africa, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain?

It is proven, when you track of history, Iran actually has clean record. Can you say same about your country?

Does Iran have Nuke?

So why are they so dangerous to you?

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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lurker



509 Posts

Posted - 12 Oct 2009 :  12:00:09  Show Profile Send lurker a Private Message
not talking about iran here , turk. talking about an individual.
do you not see the cute irony in this anti-semite being a jew himself?
nothing to do with Uk/nukes/or anything else you wanna bring up.not this time.
i think we are well aware by now of your position on the middle east situation. for once, can you just enjoy the humour instead of leading off into a political history lesson, as informative as they may be.
this is a very funny irony do you not think????
btw, take off his beard and he is looking a bit like roy keane, the footballer.
have you ever seen them in the same room, come to think of it??

Edited by - lurker on 12 Oct 2009 12:03:02
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 12 Oct 2009 :  12:29:12  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
Ha ha ha... You are too soft today, i was expecting little harsher post.

Yes, it is ironic. I see that. Ha ha ha. And, you did not see me how much fun I had when i was picking on you with this post. However, i want to point out that, Ahmedinejat is unfairly being demonized by western media. Did you know, he has an old car, i think 15 years old, and he brings his lunch from home? Very simple life style.




diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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lurker



509 Posts

Posted - 12 Oct 2009 :  12:36:58  Show Profile Send lurker a Private Message
look, zimbabwe has loads of good people but is still run by a jerk.
likewise iran.
the man is out of his league and i am not bothered by his simplicity or his choice of lunch.. it is not a redeeming feature when he threatens to wipe a nation(irrespective of which one) off the face of the earth.
hardly the talk of someone who is to be internationally respected.
he is a little man who has bullied his way to the top and stays there by the same means..look at the election.
the modern world , if is going to look after its peoples, has no place for mugabe/ahmadinejad /jammeh and countless others.
but they will not face fair elections and get voted out - obviously.
this is not about their country's history, it is about individuals.
he should expect to get demonized when he opens his ignorant trap so uncouthly and so should any loudmout leader.
the east should be demonizing him as well.
imagine if obama or brown or merkel or others said pakistan should be wiped off the face of the earth?
the same comments would be made abou tthem. so please, defend iran and its values, if you wish, but do not defend this little wannabe hitler.
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 12 Oct 2009 :  22:02:11  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
lurker

You are not following the news. This 'wipe a nation' of the face of the earth, turn out to be little bid different. Please see the following topic.

http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7412&SearchTerms=wiped,off,the,map


diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 12 Oct 2009 :  22:04:50  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
However, you are NOT objective on world affairs at all. Israel and UK actually wipe a nation off the face of earth already. I am refering palestine. I have not heard any objection on that from you. Yet.


Ahmedinejat is not as bad as you portray. I am sorry. Some of his points on Israel are legit. I agree with him. Bush, Sharon, Netenyahu are much worse than him.


diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.

Edited by - turk on 12 Oct 2009 22:15:51
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