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Dalton1



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Posted - 03 Oct 2009 :  15:02:28  Show Profile  Visit Dalton1's Homepage Send Dalton1 a Private Message
Dear Folks,

I join the rest of you to condemn Jammeh's arrogance in the strongest terms. This is truly un called for from a supposed leader of a country. This is very unusual in our societies. Even mad men don't openly use the word "kill" just like the snap of a finger. If Jammeh can say these things, don't you all think he is capable of doing it.

yj




The Gambia's bloodcurdling threat



Chidi Odinkalu
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 1 October 2009 14.30 BST
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Yahya Jammeh, president of the Gambia, seems determined to drag one of Africa's smallest countries into the kind of instability that other west African countries have struggled to escape. Despite nagging poverty, roads, schools and medical services have got better under President Jammeh. He has, however, developed a habit of making impolitic and threatening statements that embarrass both his office and his country.

Jammeh recommends herbal paste and bananas as a miracle cure for HIV/AIDS, and boastfully persecutes political opponents. His government is accused of procuring the killing, disappearance or exile of scores of journalists. As if this were insufficient, Jammeh has now announced an intention to get truly murderous.

A few days before he flew from Banjul for the 64th session of the UN general assembly in New York, he Jammeh explicitly threatened to kill human rights workers in his country, including visiting human rights workers and people who co-operate with them.

These are the exact words he uttered in a television address:

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I will kill anyone, who wants to destabilise this country. If you think that you can collaborate with so-called human rights defenders, and get away with it, you must be living in a dream world. I will kill you, and nothing will come out of it. We are not going to condone people posing as human rights defenders to the detriment of the country. If you are affiliated with any human rights group, be rest assured that your security and personal safety would not be guaranteed by my government. We are ready to kill saboteurs.


The Gambia has recognised the universal declaration of human rights, which states that disregard and contempt for human rights have resulted in acts of barbarity and that basic freedoms, such as freedom of speech, freedom of belief, freedom from want, and other rights should be protected by rule of law. The Gambia is also a member of the African Union, whose charter adopts universally accepted human rights, including the right to life and personal integrity, and freedom from cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment.

The African Union created the African Commission on Human and Peoples' Rights (ACHPR), with headquarters in Banjul, capital of the Gambia, as the institution to promote and protect the human rights of individuals and collective rights of peoples throughout Africa. Crucial, too-often dangerous work in these areas is done by non-governmental organisations that investigate human rights abuses, monitor official compliance with human rights agreements, and support cases brought before the commission.

Jammeh's direct death threat issued to human rights workers is not something that can be ignored. With his explicit threat to life, he desecrates his office, mocks the African charter on human and peoples' rights and dares the African Union to show that its commitments to human rights can be taken seriously. His warning that the Gambia's government would not guarantee the security and personal safety of human rights workers clearly repudiates the headquarters agreement between the Gambia and the African Union, in which the Gambia agreed to guarantee the safety and security of the commission's members and personnel as well as all persons making use of the commission.

The African Union and the ACHPR should demand immediate retraction from President Jammeh. Whether a retraction is forthcoming or not, the African Union should act immediately to relocate its human rights commission's headquarters from the Gambia to another African state whose assurances regarding respect for the commission's mission and work can be trusted. In the meantime, the commission should refrain from holding any meetings or sessions in Banjul or anywhere else in the Gambia. It should take appropriate steps within its powers to see to it that effective, lawful human rights monitoring continues in the Gambia, and make a public statement in support of non-governmental human rights organisations operating in the country.

The governments of the African Union members and other countries should issue clear warnings to President Jammeh that the Gambia will face serious consequences if any commission members or human rights workers, Gambian or foreign, are in any way violated in Gambia by officials or anyone else.

Human rights monitoring and advocacy are crucial components of stability in countries and regions around the world, including the Gambia. President Jammeh should be made to acknowledge this before his people, the people of Africa and the rest of the world.



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Karamba



United Kingdom
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Posted - 03 Oct 2009 :  15:25:29  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message
Dalton1,

You asked:

"If Jammeh can say these things, don't you all think he is capable of doing it? "


Most certainly, he is capable of killing mass of people. He is serious about it and not just simple threat. Be warned!!


Karamba
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bread man



300 Posts

Posted - 03 Oct 2009 :  15:38:04  Show Profile Send bread man a Private Message
Which planet are you people living? come on!!!! Those that died allgedly by Jammeh what came out of it as we speak??? In mandinka it is said "NI MANSA LAFITA SILO BONDILA IKUNG KANG, IKUNGHO LEH BEH FARALA. You do not know what Jammeh represents but let me tell you that he represents development for our country by all means neccessary. George bush killed Saddam, what happened?? Nothing!!!!!

It is the mark of intelligence to entertain an idea without accepting it.

Edited by - bread man on 03 Oct 2009 15:40:17
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Moe



USA
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Posted - 03 Oct 2009 :  18:05:43  Show Profile Send Moe a Private Message
If the Law stipulates that any traitor caught will be slaughter at Mccarthy square whilst everyone gets to watch.All i can say is ya'll better tighten your belts , Jammeh cannot be blame for what the Law stipulates...................................................................Peace
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Originally posted by bread man

Which planet are you people living? come on!!!! Those that died allgedly by Jammeh what came out of it as we speak??? In mandinka it is said "NI MANSA LAFITA SILO BONDILA IKUNG KANG, IKUNGHO LEH BEH FARALA. You do not know what Jammeh represents but let me tell you that he represents development for our country by all means neccessary. George bush killed Saddam, what happened?? Nothing!!!!!


I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction

The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know .....
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Karamba



United Kingdom
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Posted - 03 Oct 2009 :  20:28:17  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by bread man

Which planet are you people living? come on!!!! Those that died allgedly by Jammeh what came out of it as we speak??? In mandinka it is said "NI MANSA LAFITA SILO BONDILA IKUNG KANG, IKUNGHO LEH BEH FARALA. You do not know what Jammeh represents but let me tell you that he represents development for our country by all means neccessary. George bush killed Saddam, what happened?? Nothing!!!!!



Breadman,

This sounds the most disappointing of remarks you ever made on this platform. It is now clear that Jammeh is able to kill and maim because you lot believe he has every power to do so.

I am not sure how a Gambian president is absolutely empowered to kill or maim.

Now, Breadman, let us get the person of Yaya Jammeh out of the equation and treat the subject of Gambian presidency. My question relates to President of Gambia and not the Jammeh fellow. You refer to him as Mansa. Who says he is Mansa? Gambian constitution provides for a president and not Mansa. Unless we are all speaking along the same line, Gambia will stay in serious trouble with the type of divided thinking. We say president, you lot say Mansa. Can we stay on one platform for sake of better understanding?

Karamba
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bread man



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Posted - 03 Oct 2009 :  21:41:51  Show Profile Send bread man a Private Message
Please help me with the meaning of president in mandinka. Jammeh has no right to kill and maim any body, but who said he did kill or maim???? All this is based on mere speculation. Can we deal on facts pls. Jammeh is doing fine although he needs some refreshment in human rights, but my brother, let the perfect man throw the first stone.

It is the mark of intelligence to entertain an idea without accepting it.
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Moe



USA
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Posted - 03 Oct 2009 :  21:46:29  Show Profile Send Moe a Private Message
This is exactly how you miscontrue facts due to your ignorance Karamba . Who did Jammeh kill or Maim ,Jammeh is the keeper of the constitution ,when he speaks he quotes the constitution,whether he is a poor public speaker ,thats a whole different story but for now he makes you people look like the clowns you are.................................................Peace ,
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Originally posted by Karamba

quote:
Originally posted by bread man

Which planet are you people living? come on!!!! Those that died allgedly by Jammeh what came out of it as we speak??? In mandinka it is said "NI MANSA LAFITA SILO BONDILA IKUNG KANG, IKUNGHO LEH BEH FARALA. You do not know what Jammeh represents but let me tell you that he represents development for our country by all means neccessary. George bush killed Saddam, what happened?? Nothing!!!!!



Breadman,

This sounds the most disappointing of remarks you ever made on this platform. It is now clear that Jammeh is able to kill and maim because you lot believe he has every power to do so.

I am not sure how a Gambian president is absolutely empowered to kill or maim.

Now, Breadman, let us get the person of Yaya Jammeh out of the equation and treat the subject of Gambian presidency. My question relates to President of Gambia and not the Jammeh fellow. You refer to him as Mansa. Who says he is Mansa? Gambian constitution provides for a president and not Mansa. Unless we are all speaking along the same line, Gambia will stay in serious trouble with the type of divided thinking. We say president, you lot say Mansa. Can we stay on one platform for sake of better understanding?


I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction

The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know .....
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Karamba



United Kingdom
3820 Posts

Posted - 03 Oct 2009 :  23:01:43  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by bread man

Please help me with the meaning of president in mandinka. Jammeh has no right to kill and maim any body, but who said he did kill or maim???? All this is based on mere speculation. Can we deal on facts pls. Jammeh is doing fine although he needs some refreshment in human rights, but my brother, let the perfect man throw the first stone.



Well Breadman,

One thing is clear for us all. In Gambia, there is a position of President. I don't know of a word for president in Mandinka. I hear them say President for lack of a word perhaps. In some countries they have kings and Mansa in Mandinka is King.

Gambia being a constitutional republic, it is not a kingdom and therefore does not carry that title for our leadership position.

There is some problem here if what we all know as president of Gambia has changed to King (Mansa) without due constitutional process. I am not aware of Gambia having a king or mansa.

That apart, Gambians will not prefer to empower even a king to kill or maim.

When Jammeh declared over national radio and TV " I will kill..." that is not part of Gambian presidential mandate. Any sitting president who openly says he will kill makes a criminal of the person in question. On this occasion, it is Mr Jammeh.

Again, let us deal with the position of president and keep Mr Jammeh aside.

Karamba
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Dalton1



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Posted - 03 Oct 2009 :  23:30:39  Show Profile  Visit Dalton1's Homepage Send Dalton1 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Karamba



Most certainly, he is capable of killing mass of people. He is serious about it and not just simple threat. Be warned!!





Bro Karamba,

Thanks for the aforetime 'code red' terror alert. I must tell you I am now statled...save a life...I personally thought this particular utterance is worth condemnation first. Now that jammeh informs us ahead of time, he must be ready to take responsibility for whatever happens.

thanks,
YJ

"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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