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mansasulu



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Posted - 24 Sep 2009 :  22:03:07  Show Profile Send mansasulu a Private Message
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8273086.stm

"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)

...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah...

toubab1020



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Posted - 24 Sep 2009 :  22:20:19  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
This I thought had been written by "those dreadful white men of colonial days," until I read the Author of the piece, none other than.......

Umaru Fofana

Most probably an African,quite surprising (I hate politics!)



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Originally posted by mansasulu

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8273086.stm


"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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mansasulu



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Posted - 24 Sep 2009 :  22:27:38  Show Profile Send mansasulu a Private Message
It's quite a piece.

"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)

...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah...
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Janko

Gambia
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Posted - 24 Sep 2009 :  22:51:35  Show Profile  Visit Janko's Homepage Send Janko a Private Message
Good assessment of the Gambian dilemma, but as a Batabarian am proud to say there is nothing new in the article.
THE BANTABA IS IN TUNE ... keep it up …

Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy
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Prince



507 Posts

Posted - 24 Sep 2009 :  23:29:31  Show Profile Send Prince a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by mansasulu

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8273086.stm



Mr. Fofana did an excellent assessment of Gambian politics. It is refreshing that he highlighted the dictatorial leaning of the opposition. Like Wade of Senegal; it is obvious that IF these so-called opposition leaders come to power, they won't relinquish it through democratic means.

With all their rhetoric, it is hard for the average Gambian to name more than three leaders of any of these opposition parties.

My body die for Gambia.

"When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes duty."
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shaka



996 Posts

Posted - 25 Sep 2009 :  01:05:10  Show Profile Send shaka a Private Message
C'mon people, don't give this man credit. He is an absolute *****. From what i got from his interviews i could not help but wonder how he got his job in a respectable organisation like the BBC. The man clearly went to The Gambia with a preconceived notion of the general political environment from what he gathered with very little research before he embarked on his journey. Otherwise how could you explain his stupid attack on the opposition. If you if get rid of what he described as 'an undemocratic leadership' within the opposition, what do you replace it with? Had he been able to establish disgruntle elements about the leadership structure within any of the opposition parties? Where are those brave patriots who are so willing to save the people by attempting to break away from this 'undemocratic and inept' opposition leadership? How many political leaders had emerged from this 'undemocratic' opposition and made or picked up any ground since 1996? The struggle for change is not a mere wish. It is about getting on the ground and getting the job done. If the current opposition leadership are the only ones showing some balls by confronting the dictatorship where it matters most(that is on the grounds in the Gambia) we do not need a stupid journalist who discredits history and philosophy to tell us how to be democratic. Is democracy about changing political party leadership structures after every elections? What is the merit in this if that same leadership carries the weight and electorate numbers within a given political structure? We have to be careful what we wish for. Our democracy is a struggling/infant democracy not a fully fledge one with an unlimited alternative where we are spoilt for choice about who our next leaders will be. It is dictatorship where change will only occur with sacrifice. The next leader to yield this change will have to understand that he/she might have to die to get us there. Unless we have this procession of selfless leaders at our disposal i'd say this is one clueless and ignorant journalism.
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toubab1020



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Posted - 25 Sep 2009 :  10:04:16  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
What you say is most probably true,the fact still remains that this man wrote a fair and balanced piece,and I fail to see how you can disagree with what he wrote.You must admit that to get to grips with the political set up in The Gambia whilst you are there would take a very long time indeed.

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C'mon people, don't give this man credit. He is an absolute *****. From what i got from his interviews i could not help but wonder how he got his job in a respectable organisation like the BBC. The man clearly went to The Gambia with a preconceived notion of the general political environment from what he gathered with very little research before he embarked on his journey. Otherwise how could you explain his stupid attack on the opposition.

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

Edited by - toubab1020 on 25 Sep 2009 10:05:20
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shaka



996 Posts

Posted - 25 Sep 2009 :  16:03:56  Show Profile Send shaka a Private Message
Toubab, Neil Kinnock was party leader of the Labour Party from 1983-1992 and Paddy Ashdown was party leader of the Liberal Democratic Party from 1988-1999 in your country and neither of them never ever won a general election. Does that mean both Labour and Liberal Democrats are undemocratic parties. The man is an absolute ignorant with a warped discernment of democracy as a brand instead instead of a tool of governance. We are not shopping for an ideal democracy in the Gambia and we certainly are not lustful of the fashionable democracy Umaru Fofonna or the BBC has to sell. We wan't to get rid of dictator and harness our young democracy. The last thing we want is an imbecile of a journalist to tear down the little democratic structures that took years of selfless sacrifice by patriotic Gambians to build.

Edited by - shaka on 25 Sep 2009 16:12:41
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toubab1020



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Posted - 25 Sep 2009 :  18:18:14  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
I see your point SHAKA, I think the difference might be that we have a party system and not a PERSONAL system and democracy is a system of evolution,and that system can only be developed by the people of the country involved,but it must be FAIR.Tony Blair for instance really wanted a presidential model

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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