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kayjatta



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Posted - 08 Sep 2009 :  09:15:15  Show Profile Send kayjatta a Private Message
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090907/lf_nm_life/us_sudan_trousers

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/sudan/5956721/Whip-me-if-you-dare-says-Lubna-Hussein-Sudans-defiant-trouser-woman.html

I hope this serves as an example for Gambians who have a tradition of paying hundreds of thousands of Dalasis just to avoid jail while there human rights are being trampled...

Edited by - kayjatta on 08 Sep 2009 09:35:23

Momodou



Denmark
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Posted - 08 Sep 2009 :  20:53:40  Show Profile Send Momodou a Private Message
Sudan 'trousers case' woman freed


A Sudanese woman who was imprisoned for wearing trousers deemed "indecent" has been released after the country's journalist union paid a $200 fine on her behalf............

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2009/09/200998152754685257.html

A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone
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turk



USA
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Posted - 08 Sep 2009 :  23:41:40  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
Kayjatta

You remind me this guy in M.Moore's movie. F911. The senator was being interviewed for not sending his son to the army while he was supporting the iraqi war.

Isn't it unfair that you expect other people sacrificies -while you are not- for your cause?

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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kayjatta



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Posted - 09 Sep 2009 :  07:42:24  Show Profile Send kayjatta a Private Message
Turk:
1. In the U.S. we do not send our sons and daughters to serve in the army. Unless there is a draft or 'selective service', military service is a choice that parents cannot and do not make for their children. Supporting a war does not mean that your children should be soldiers...
2. I have never paid a fine to avoid jail in the Gambia under the military rule.

Therefore, your points (analogies) in both cases (the Senator and I) are invalid.

My argument, however, is that human rights crusaders must be prepared to pay the consequence of jail time for their noble cause. The fear of jail, by paying exorbitant fines is defeatist to the cause. Nelson Mandela did not do that. I believe Dr. M.L. King did not do that. Aun Sung Su Kyi did not do that. Ngugi Waa Thiongo did not do that. Prof. Wole Soyinka, who proudly landed himself in Nigerian jails over and over did not do stuff like that. The human rights cause cannot win if the enemy knows that you are not brave enough to face jail or that you are not brave enough to endure separation from loved ones.
United State's experience in the First Gulf War under George Bush Sr. and in Somalia under Clinton gives the impression that U.S. cannot withstand heavy casualties. Saddam Hussein, for example in the second Gulf war,hoped to rely on this U.S. weakness. He had hoped that by engaging U.S. in a protracted, drawn-out, hit-and-run warfare, U.S. will get tired and pull out its troops as its casualties increase. Little did he know that Bush and the American people were ready to die in large numbers this time in order to remove him.
When the journalists are released from jail a few days ago, the Gambian authorities thought that the harsh experience in Mile Two prisons would bring them to their knees in a frenzy of remorse and repentence. The journalists instead kept their heads up in dignity and bravery, for their cause is a just and noble cause. When the history books are written they will be recorded as the heroes while those who jailed them will be the villains. Jail for these people is noble; it only makes their resumes (political, journalistic, or otherwise) attractive. This is what I mean. This is what I am talking about, Turk...

Edited by - kayjatta on 09 Sep 2009 07:47:21
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turk



USA
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Posted - 09 Sep 2009 :  09:44:27  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
shoot. I thought your response was going to be funny. :)

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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kayjatta



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Posted - 09 Sep 2009 :  09:57:57  Show Profile Send kayjatta a Private Message
You know I would be more humorous when I respond to Shaka (Zulu's) defense of Samsudeen Sarr's out-of-place 'sabarry' theory...
But this is the Turk; sometimes I just have to take you on -well, without the option of humor...
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