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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 05 Aug 2009 : 20:21:17
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If you live in the Uk you should abide by the countries laws.
Simple as!!!
Bigamy is illegal, thank goodness!!!
If you think women are equal to men then if you get married you should have one wife or one husband.
Likewise, you should only bring children into the world that you can afford to support.
The state support is supposed to be a last resort, NOT a way of life.
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toubab1020
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Posted - 05 Aug 2009 : 20:44:44
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Originally posted by gambiabev
If you live in the Uk you should abide by the countries laws.
Simple as!!!
Bigamy is illegal, thank goodness!!!
If you think women are equal to men then if you get married you should have one wife or one husband.
Likewise, you should only bring children into the world that you can afford to support.
The state support is supposed to be a last resort, NOT a way of life.
That's very un PC Gambiabev, and so right wing, what will all the socialsts and social workers think of what you have written ?, no benefits, the state shouldnt support you if you are poor and have too many kids that you cannot afford, have a look at this American Yahoo page,
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090804/ap_on_re_us/us_fea_parenting_cost
I can just see the smoking material of a certain kind falling from their lips (Social workers lips I mean,not that all social workers smoke of course that would be very wrong to say that !! )
Seriously though if you cannot afford to have, or do something then thats it, its hard but that's the world,except if you live in the UK of course
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Aug 2009 : 09:24:39
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Im not right wing LOL! Im a socialist. I'm a feminist too. BUT I am a realist and think we should take responsibilities for our own lives and children.
The state should provide a safety net for those who are unable to cope for whatever reason..... but it shouldnt be a life style choice!
I limited my family to two children, because that was the number I could afford to raise: clothe, feed, educate etc. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 06 Aug 2009 : 11:41:53
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I made my posting slightly I must admit, but I to am a realist and I would suggest that realism cannot be equated with socialism
Very few others have decided to join in this topic,why ? because its about Personal responsibility a subject not discussed much here.
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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kayjatta
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Posted - 06 Aug 2009 : 11:58:13
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toubab1020
12312 Posts |
Posted - 06 Aug 2009 : 15:19:12
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| Kay you are very welcome , I expect that's about it then,we shall see. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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mbay
Germany
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Posted - 06 Aug 2009 : 15:48:26
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What an irresponsible.
If you would be in a poor position like them, down to socially wing you would not present and maintenance yourself here in this way.
Yes, one can bring up a sense like this by distancing yourself from the realty on the ground; it is absolutely wrong to behavior toward a person as you are.
Indeed irreverence, have you ever heard a hand in hand? What a shame!
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 06 Aug 2009 : 16:22:32
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Originally posted by gambiabev
If you live in the Uk you should abide by the countries laws.
Simple as!!!
Bigamy is illegal, thank goodness!!!
what about those who live in The Gambia and have been convicted based on The Gambia's laws?
shouldn't they abide with The Gambia's laws? sedition is illegal in The Gambia.... so i suppose its as
simple as that.
or is this another case of double standards....... lets be consistent. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 06 Aug 2009 : 17:36:47
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Originally posted by mbay
What an irresponsible.
If you would be in a poor position like them, down to socially wing you would not present and maintenance yourself here in this way.
Yes, one can bring up a sense like this by distancing yourself from the realty on the ground; it is absolutely wrong to behavior toward a person as you are.
Indeed irreverence, have you ever heard a hand in hand? What a shame!
Mbay, if I understand you correctly you are saying that even if you cannot afford to have children you are entitled to expect that someone else would look after them for you? If I am incorrect because of language difficulties please try again and use different words.
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
3091 Posts |
Posted - 06 Aug 2009 : 18:55:05
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| Mbay I am sorry but I cant understand what you have written. |
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mbay
Germany
1007 Posts |
Posted - 06 Aug 2009 : 20:49:23
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Originally posted by toubab1020
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Originally posted by mbay
What an irresponsible.
If you would be in a poor position like them, down to socially wing you would not present and maintenance yourself here in this way.
Yes, one can bring up a sense like this by distancing yourself from the realty on the ground; it is absolutely wrong to behavior toward a person as you are.
Indeed irreverence, have you ever heard a hand in hand? What a shame!
Mbay, if I understand you correctly you are saying that even if you cannot afford to have children you are entitled to expect that someone else would look after them for you? If I am incorrect because of language difficulties please try again and use different words.
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toubab1020
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Posted - 06 Aug 2009 : 20:56:45
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Originally posted by mbay
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Originally posted by toubab1020
[quote]Originally posted by mbay
What an irresponsible.
If you would be in a poor position like them, down to socially wing you would not present and maintenance yourself here in this way.
Yes, one can bring up a sense like this by distancing yourself from the realty on the ground; it is absolutely wrong to behavior toward a person as you are.
Indeed irreverence, have you ever heard a hand in hand? What a shame!
Mbay, if I understand you correctly you are saying that even if you cannot afford to have children you are entitled to expect that someone else would look after them for you? If I am incorrect because of language difficulties please try again and use different words.
No misinterpretation then, my understanding of your words is correct. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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kayjatta
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Posted - 07 Aug 2009 : 10:45:22
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Originally posted by toubab1020
Kay you are very welcome , I expect that's about it then,we shall see.
Gambiabev's position that I concured with is consistent with what President Obama recently said at the NAACP (National Association for the Advancement of Colored People)gathering in the U.S. ...
It is all about responsibility and self-reliance. No body should adopt government assistance as a way of life ... |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Aug 2009 : 10:53:38
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If laws are applied fairly and people are given a free and fair trial then I would accept the ruling.
Sedition is a difficult one....That law can be used to silence free speech and democracy. I don't agree with that law at all. But in Gambia we have to be very wary of it. This is part of the reason I am cautious to visit again.
When visiting other countries we have to be respectful of the culture and people. We have to try to adapt and live by the countries rules.
BUT we also have to have the courage to stand up and be counted when we see injustice in the world. In some countries this can be a dangerous thing. |
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mbay
Germany
1007 Posts |
Posted - 07 Aug 2009 : 11:24:00
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Bev, My problem is that you make an exception earlier…that hurts and is a shame! especially those still coming from umbrellas of British Empire. As most of this people are. Yes, that is a history but man cannot live in the future without past.
I have no problems with you point about to stick with rules of the law in the country where one leave or polygamy system so long it is forbidding. However, Let us not includes those who bear their children with love with those lazy people, who are unwilling to work or those called (which I will not definite like that) a baby make for money/profit and that is it. I will not like go so far, as like the system the USA but if there is chance, everyone most work without an exception of nationality or alike! To cover your need of living you most work and that is not new but exhibiting around, at TV or internet cafe turns be your working place is nothing but laziness and this type of people are in every class.
Some of this people are real working hard.
let us not forget also that in the origin idea of rising a family has another meaning compeer with that we have here and so grow their forthcoming in that environment,
Some weak lays also in our social system, which is opposite to the USA because of that, yes some uses their tic-tac by misusing it, after that all, this is not the way show your anger at all of them.
In addition, do not worry about dying-out race, you will exist even numbers are get lower and lower in the researchers eyes.
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