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Janko
Gambia
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 Posted - 09 Jun 2009 : 23:48:05
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How come Gambia lacks the sentiment of Negritude,a perspective of self in her cultural self-consciousness?
What effect has that on her self-understanding, self-pride and self –presentation in the 20th.century … scheme of things?
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Edited by - Janko on 09 Jun 2009 23:52:21 |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 10 Jun 2009 : 00:26:06
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Janko,
I regret that I had to look up Negritude, I am a little more confused because there appear to be many different meanings:
this one for example:
Négritude is a literary and political movement developed in the 1930s by a group that included the future Senegalese President Léopold Sédar
Here is the link:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&defl=en&q=define:negritude&ei=it8uSqa0JMLLjAf8wY2PCw&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title
and this:
The belief in the importance of asserting an authentic ethnic identity in the face of imperialism, often linked to the practice of producing an ...
This is the link that I obtained the information from
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Jun 2009 : 00:59:16
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quote:
Originally posted by Janko
How come Gambia lacks the sentiment of Negritude,a perspective of self in her cultural self-consciousness?
What effect has that on her self-understanding, self-pride and self –presentation in the 20th.century … scheme of things?
To some extent Janko, Gambians are hard coming together without the ugly head of selfish interest showing up. From what obtains in recent experiences, the scramble for POSSESSION and POSITION generally pre-empts any collective resolve.
On the issue of self-identification there is still hope. For people to realise the collective worth, that is where the knots need proper tightening.
Gambia stands to make high-impact collective self fulfilment once we recognise the country and learn to avoid hero worship, drive for possession and position.
The sacrifice to create an ongoing collective entity is still long way to go.
Those in public position don't recognise their occupation as people in transit. Rather they feel settled on grounds of permanence.
What we need most is this collective drive for everyone's good.
Perhaps (just an assumption) if the message behind People's Organisation as PDOIS proposed, was to be embraced, then a Gambia of collective self identity would have been the driving track to a given level of self actualisation in the collective accord.. |
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Janko
Gambia
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Posted - 11 Jun 2009 : 13:26:19
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toubab1020, sorry for that, but you get it right.
Negritude; is an ideological position that holds Black culture to be independent and valid on its own terms; an affirmation of the African cultural heritage.(Word Net) This is my explicit connotation; to perceive ones culture from within independently and evaluate it on its own terms is only second to the “Copernican Revolution”. Negritude in the sense SELF-assertion, “being” for one-self in both time and space.
The “Negritudian Revolution” has not only given us a new self-consciousness, a new “Being” but also provides the tool for shaping national identities. From a historical perspective it is those leaders, by and large the first presidents after Independence, who came in contact with the Negritudian Revolution, were the ones able to formulate a vision for their countries´ development from a “Third…” point of departure that transcends the ideologies of Capitalism and Socialism. The new frame of mind is characterized by ideas of “Pan-Africanism”, “Cultural Revolution”, slogans like “Black and Proud” and influenced thinkers/statesmen akin to S. Biko, N. Mandela, J. Nyerere, S. Touray, S. Senghor, A. Cabral and many more. The notion of affirmation influenced cultural giants akin to Dr. L. Peters, Fodayba Keita etc. and theorist of the caliber of S. A. Diop and the “afro centric worldview”.
Karamba
In my mind the self- representation characteristic that Negritude implicates renders Capitalism and/or Socialism a secondary position. Hence it advocates a third position/perspective, the idea of SELF as the Alfa and the Omega positioned between the two dominant ideologies, Capitalism and Socialism.
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toubab1020
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Posted - 11 Jun 2009 : 14:29:05
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| Janko,Thanks now you have defined NEGRITUDE in your terms in your last posting, I am not competent to take part in such a deep subject for discussion,(due to my ethnicity) I will follow with GREAT interest what others who have a personal understanding of NEGRITUDE write. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Janko
Gambia
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Posted - 11 Jun 2009 : 22:32:18
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toubab1020
I would rather discourse the notion as a “third” position/way in relation to capitalism and socialism. Therefore ethnicity is nor a criterion or a disqualifier in discoursing self-consciousness.
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toubab1020
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Posted - 11 Jun 2009 : 23:10:44
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Thanks for the offer Janko,but politics is not my thing,others here will take up your clarified offer very gladly and have a great time with your topic,I am thinking of a few names but just let me wait and see if I am right,enjoy yourselves.! |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Santanfara
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Posted - 12 Jun 2009 : 01:06:21
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quote:
Originally posted by Janko
How come Gambia lacks the sentiment of Negritude,a perspective of self in her cultural self-consciousness?
What effect has that on her self-understanding, self-pride and self –presentation in the 20th.century … scheme of things?
a powerful topic. But Gambians like other peoples cultures to thier own. I wonder whether we are even able to distinquish any more what is Gambian and what is not. From music to dance, all is dominated by foreign. Reggae, indaga etc. dress, American, European etc. Janko well, i hope i haven't bore you. see the video when Cableton came to the Gambia, i thought it was the end of the world. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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Moe
USA
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Posted - 12 Jun 2009 : 06:03:36
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Is "INDAGA" Serehule for "Ndagga" ,yall better watch out for "cableton" too . When did you start listening to music Santa ,I thought you were against music and prefer home schooling..........................................Peace
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I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
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kayjatta
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Posted - 12 Jun 2009 : 08:39:50
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My first encounter with the concept of Negritude was through Senghore's writings.
I came to understand that Negritude was a political and literary movement pioneered by some then African/Carribean students in France including Senghore (of Senegal) and Cessaire (of Martinique). Negritude is (was) not an economic movement; it was a political/literary movement that rejected assimilation but sought parallel political and social equality to the French colonialists. Negritude espoused Africanness and Blackness and many in their rank are inclined to socialism. Cessaire for one was a full fledge communist.
Negritude which losely means "blackness" drew a lot of inspiration from Black literary movemnets in the U.S. especially the Harlem Rennaissance.
Many of the pioneers of Negritude did not envision independence from France, but by an act of fate some of them including Senghore and Cessaire ended up leaders of their countries after France suddenly granted them independence.
Frantz Fanon (I once attended a lecture by the late Dr. Peters on Fanon)who parTicipated in the Algerian war of independence and author of "The wretched of the Earth" was a student of Cessaire, one of the pioneers of Negritude.
Senghore's poetry particularly is very much informed by this adherence to "Black culturalism" and his experience as political leader. |
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Janko
Gambia
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Posted - 12 Jun 2009 : 21:06:49
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Negritude is a revolutionary instrument that turns the “outwards focus” of the colonised into an “inwards focus”. And due to its flexibility it is influencing numerous schools of thought in all strata of knowledge. Some examples of its influence are the ideas of Pan Africanism, Afro-centrism and Cultural Revolution. A timely example is the “Research Centre for Endogenous Development” (CRDE) the idea of exploring social skills, and the African cultural identity, constructed by the Burkinabe thinker, Joseph Ki-Zerbo.
It is a matter of charity beginning at home. Starting with knowing oneself affects the political, economical and social consciousnesses as well.
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Janko
Gambia
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Posted - 15 Jun 2009 : 22:38:25
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Joseph Ki-Zerbo
"We must rebuild the identity from which the African peoples have become alienated..."
His focus was on the idea of endogenous development. Endogenous development is a practice that lets native farmers use their own ideas and traditions alongside new technology. It incorporates the ideas and knowledge of indigenous cultures rather than disregarding them.
Ki-Zerbo believed that integrating local farmers' techniques and beliefs with modern technology was the only sensitive and efficient way to help Africans retain their control of their country's agriculture....
In 1980, Ki-Zerbo founded the Centre d'Etudes pour le Developpement Africain (CEDA). He said, "CEDA conducts research which is actually rooted in our land...capable of integrating ecological preservation, the social praxis and cultural identity, key sectors which are almost invariably treated as secondary in development projects."
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Janko
Gambia
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Posted - 20 Jun 2009 : 15:40:45
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Wangari Maathai
The Green Belt Movement: Sharing the Approach and the Experience
"Under the auspices of the National Council of Women of Kenya, of which she was chairwoman from 1981 to 1987, she introduced the idea of planting trees through citizen foresters in 1976, and called this new organization the Green Belt Movement (GBM). She continued to develop GBM into broadbased, grassroots organization whose focus was women's groups planting of trees in order to conserve the environment and improve their quality of life. Through the Green Belt Movement, Wangari Maathai has assisted women in planting more than 20 million trees on their farms and on schools and church compounds in Kenya and all over East Africa....
This virtuous circle of empowerment through conservation is serving as a model throughout the world, where women both individually and collectively are entrusted with money and material to invest it in ways that make a difference to their daily lives. Wangari Maathai's Green Belt Movement is a great example of how one person can turn around the lives of thousands, if not millions of others, by empowering others to change their situation." |
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Janko
Gambia
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Posted - 24 Jun 2009 : 00:38:21
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“Formal”and “Informal" economies
In a self-conscious market locally produced goods and services are the “formal economy” and imported goods and services as the “informal economy.”
Therefore there shall be no genuine development without self conscious. |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 24 Jun 2009 : 01:44:35
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This is simply explained in the black and white doll experiment. Blacks preferred white dolls because they were "prettier". But when asked which doll is best closer to them, they point to the black doll with reluctance.
You could see the kids pointing to the black doll but never wanting to touch it. Self worth is very much dependent on economic independence and opportunities. The more you have of both, the more fulfilled one becomes and in a position to raise one' head up. Crowned at the top is education and access.
Until Africans rewrite their own history, the issue of self worth will not progress beyond academia. For far too long, we have dependent on others who borrow our watches and tell us the time. Unfortunately it has always been their time instead of the time.
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