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gambiabev

United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Mar 2009 :  20:21:32  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
Can anyone advise me how much it would/should cost to build a nursery school? I have been given the land by the village Akalo and the villagers are going to help the builders do the work. So how much should it cost?

What is the best time of year to commence building?

How long should it take to build?

What should the annual running costs be?

Do nurserys in Gambia usually charge the children to go to nursery?

I was thinking of providing uniforms and lunches to encourage them to go.

How much should that cost per annum?

Any advice would be appreciated.

turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 09 Mar 2009 :  03:46:47  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
For how many students for now and 5 and 10 years from now? Any overnight stay? What are the age group? Would staff be provided from Government? What is the size of building? Do you require electricity? Do you need kitchen? Do you need water?

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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gambiabev

United Kingdom
3091 Posts

Posted - 09 Mar 2009 :  07:53:13  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
It is a nursery, so for age 2 to 7 is my understanding. Then they go to lower basic.

The nursery is staffed from the village. There are no wages for nurserys from the government as far as I am aware. A small fee will be charged to cover the costs of staff.

Yes they want a kitchen. Water is provided by a pumping system around the village.

Electricity isnt available.

I would say two large class rooms and a safe outside space....but I am waiting to be sent the plans on paper.

Proper toilet facilities would be nice too.....

I would think about 80 children.

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Momodou



Denmark
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Posted - 09 Mar 2009 :  20:44:10  Show Profile Send Momodou a Private Message
Bev, the cost will depend on many factors and you should ask your counterparts in the Gambia to make the estimates such as;
1. The size of the building/s
2. How many blocks will be needed?
3. How many bags of cement needed and the cost
4. Gravel & and sand trips needed
5. Roofing materials
6. Paint
7. Furniture
8. Cost of mason- and carpentry
Etc. etc.

My advice is; don’t start if you do not have the resources to complete the project because it will give false hope.


A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone
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gambiabev

United Kingdom
3091 Posts

Posted - 09 Mar 2009 :  21:04:24  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
Thanks for that. I will try to get more details.
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turk



USA
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Posted - 09 Mar 2009 :  21:11:25  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
Well now it is 80 children. Than one would think in 10 with 0.03 population growth years it will be 120 in 10 years. If the building life expectency is 10 years, you would consider the nursery to have capacity of 120. Obviously you would have funding problem but try to consider for the capacity for the future as well.

I volunteered for a school for autistic children which may be similar to what you were thinking. There were three classrooms plus one whole. One for 2/3, one for 4/5 and one for 6/7. They had a kitchen and there was one big place sleeping place during lunch.

The toilet will be very expensive. I am not sure how you would drain but for 120 people you are talking about a big drain capacity (in gambia they usualy have a big hole) I built a washroom plus basic shower place. For a washroom/shower two room unit like you would builit for 120, you are talking about 5000 to 10000 dollars. For a simple kitchen, you are talking about at least 5000 dollars. I would suggest kithchen to be open concept. Only three walls. This is just an equipment and equipment rental. I am assuming you don't have to pay for labor.

However, you need someone to built this and this require specific skill. I mean your free labour can do make bricks, but someone has to built the walls, room etc. I am assuming you will be using corgette for the roof.

For 3 big classroom one big sleeping room, you would need at least 15,000 dollars which may go up to 25,000. Also, you need to built fence for the safe outside place. If you don't have budget for almost 40,000 dollars, it will be very difficult.

I know one Turkish engineer that may help you with the design/engineering and equipment. I may contact him. I also know a guy who can lead the volunteers for the construction. he knows how to build.

This austistic school had water/electricity costs. Plus they had gas cost for the food. It was run by a german doctor and a few british and some other european volunteers. The cook, cleaner were local. Also, there were local stuff working as baby sitter. There was no cost for stuff. It was totally volunteers.

If you start this sometime in end of rain season, you have plenty time to finish the project.

I wish I could help you, but I am in Gambia I would come and help you.

Good luck. You show everyone how to help gambia. These children will grow up and they will be better citizens to help gambia.




diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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turk



USA
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Posted - 10 Mar 2009 :  03:42:15  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
Gambiabev

Talk to Momodou about a page which can be post somewhere in bantaba. I can help with the website design. You may use this as funding. I am sure there may be people who would help this project.

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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gambiabev

United Kingdom
3091 Posts

Posted - 10 Mar 2009 :  08:14:00  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
Thank you Turk for such a positive response.

I have been given an estimated price of £15,000.

I thought this was quite expensive. But from what you are saying perhaps it is realistic?!

It is not for autistic children, but for the whole village.

I am thinking about doing the project in sections over 2 or 3 years.

I do have a lump sum of money from my house sale to put towards the cost, but I also need to earn more of the money from my job and raise some funds.

I am not a registered charity and dont think i want to go down that route.

Further advice would be appreciated and people can always private email me if they dont want to post on the subject.
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 10 Mar 2009 :  08:31:55  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
15000 pounds around 30,000 dollars. Mine was 40,000 for bigger building. So it looks like the price is right. But still, you have to make little bid more research. I suggest you to establish a committe. Gambian you can trust always will be very helpful for price negotiation. 15000 pounds does not sound that bad.

I know it is not for autistic children. I said I worked for similar project for austistic children. Well, if the project starts, when I am in Gambia next time, if I see something happening, I would help you. Be as fund raiser or construction worker.

I suggest you go to Banjul minister of Education and ask some help. They may not help you financially but they can help in some other areas. I wish I could help but i am too far. Sorry.

Bev

You don't have to collect money via website, but you may raise the awarness and may get some support non-gambians, gambians and local people. This is excellent initiative, I admire the idea. Allah help you inshallah.


diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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gambiabev

United Kingdom
3091 Posts

Posted - 10 Mar 2009 :  18:53:00  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
Thanks again. I am going to do more research and start the project after the raining season this year.

If anyone goes to Kolior, check it out for me!

My guide is going to run the project in conjunction with the nursery teacher. They have full support of the Alkalo.

I am going to try to go annually to visit the project.
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MeMe



United Kingdom
541 Posts

Posted - 10 Mar 2009 :  22:17:34  Show Profile Send MeMe a Private Message
Bev, have pm'd you the email details of a Welsh lady who has already done what you want to do ... think she'll be able to help you on a practical level.


It is better to die standing than to live on your knees - Ernesto Guevara de la Serna
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jambo



3300 Posts

Posted - 11 Mar 2009 :  19:17:42  Show Profile Send jambo a Private Message
Bev, GO GIRL, what a project, are you planning on spending time out there to oversee everything, the advice you have been given is brilliant and so factful, but I believe the hands on approach is best.
GOOD LUCK.
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gambiabev

United Kingdom
3091 Posts

Posted - 11 Mar 2009 :  19:34:56  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
Thanks Jambo. This is what I have always wanted to do, ever since my first day in Kolior when I meet the nursery teacher and saw the state of the building they worked in.

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Formby

United Kingdom
246 Posts

Posted - 11 Mar 2009 :  19:36:07  Show Profile Send Formby a Private Message
Very well done to you Bev.

You may want to contact Francis at GTS, who I think has lots of experience with this sort of project. They set up a charitable education wing (registered in UK) and it might not be as hard as you think.

Anyway, keep on asking for stuff. What Turk said about having a dedicated page (if admin agree) is a good idea as you could broadcast requests there and people could find them easily.

I really admire what you're doing and if you post up requests I'll help where I can (even if it's just materials like crayons, toys etc)
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