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turk
USA
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 Posted - 31 Oct 2008 : 22:32:46
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Musa, this has nothing to do with 911.
What planet do you live? 911 had tremedous impact on negative stereotypes on muslims by americans? |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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musa pembo
United Kingdom
154 Posts |
Posted - 01 Nov 2008 : 02:28:33
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Originally posted by Formby
No, one can not prosecute people for doing nothing. The moral tenet of Voltaire (was it?) says that 'all that is necessary for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing' but the law has to be different. People have their own reasons for not intervening. Had this happened in the UK, in particular London, I bet the number of people who didn't get involved would be higher. I am not suggesting in any way that it is the morally right course of action, just that people can have a tendency to mind their own business. But I think Gambians are very different. I am reminded of a time some years ago when a Gambian friend got involved in an argument with a cabman which looked like coming to blows. I was minded to leave them to it but Gambians thought I was mad and rushed in to cool the situation (or take sides, I don't know, my mandinka wasn't good enough to follow the events).
In any case, the recent rash of Youtube clips leading up to the American elections has demonstrated that a significant number of a certain type of Americans hears the word 'Muslim' and recoils. It's a convenient replacement for the 'commie red', now that they are no longer the 'enemy'. It seems that a certain type of person just needs someone, anyone, to hate. Why, I don't know, but that is a shame.
Formby.Thanks for your contribution.But your quote "All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing" is generally attributed to Edmund Burke(1729-1797)He was of Anglo-Irish descent.A philosopher and Member of the Whig Party in the Britsh House of Commons.He is well known for his support for the American Colonies in the dispute with King George 111 and Britain that led to the American Revolution.
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musa pembo
United Kingdom
154 Posts |
Posted - 01 Nov 2008 : 13:49:41
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Originally posted by turk
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Musa, this has nothing to do with 911.
What planet do you live? 911 had tremedous impact on negative stereotypes on muslims by americans?
Turk. Thanks for your contribution,it might just help kay look at the problem from a different perspective.I got some friends,Tenured University Professors who were detained just because they had Muslim names and many others with managerial jobs who were summarily dismissed because of the same reasons-the effect of 911.Has Brother Kay heard of Profiling(religious).....
I rest my case.
Best wishes,
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 01 Nov 2008 : 22:02:27
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pembo
Yeah. There are also funny stories. This guy was arrested for islamic radicalist suspect because the guy had a beard. And he was sikh. lol. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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kayjatta
2978 Posts |
Posted - 03 Nov 2008 : 08:11:40
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Originally posted by mansasulu
Kay, if anything the role of the actors is the only staged "behaviour." Therefore, the bystanders who are focus of the act, particularly those who said nothing or supported the "fake shop owner" may not be responsible for what happened but didn't do anything to stop the injustice. I am not worried by the ones who supported the the shop owner, rather I am worried by 22 people who said or did nothing. That is why I titled it the silent majority. If we use the standrads of the Good Samaritan Laws, we could prosecute them!
Mansasulu, I do not think the "Good Samaritan" laws are applicable in this case. The victim is in no physical danger of injury or death as required by the "rescuer doctrine", therefore the compelling need to intervene is none existing. Intervention in this case would be highly applaudable but it would be discretionary I think. I may be wrong ...
Warning: This is not a legal advise, I am not a lawyer. |
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mansasulu
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Posted - 03 Nov 2008 : 17:01:20
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| Kay and Formby, I am not suggesting that the "Good Samiritan Laws" are applicable. Certainly not by any means and not under any reasonable justice system. The key words in my inference is IF WE USE THE STANDARDS. I thought with your interest in the law, you will see the humor... |
"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)
...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah... |
Edited by - mansasulu on 03 Nov 2008 17:02:40 |
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Formby
United Kingdom
246 Posts |
Posted - 03 Nov 2008 : 21:24:36
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Originally posted by musa pembo
Formby.Thanks for your contribution.But your quote "All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing" is generally attributed to Edmund Burke(1729-1797)He was of Anglo-Irish descent.A philosopher and Member of the Whig Party in the Britsh House of Commons.He is well known for his support for the American Colonies in the dispute with King George 111 and Britain that led to the American Revolution.
Best wishes,
musa.
Ah thank you for the correction |
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kayjatta
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Posted - 04 Nov 2008 : 06:19:41
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Originally posted by mansasulu
Kay and Formby, I am not suggesting that the "Good Samiritan Laws" are applicable. Certainly not by any means and not under any reasonable justice system. The key words in my inference is IF WE USE THE STANDARDS. I thought with your interest in the law, you will see the humor...
Okay sorry I missed the humor  ... |
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