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Formby
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 Posted - 23 Oct 2008 : 17:20:30
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musa pembo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 Oct 2008 : 23:47:30
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Hello Members,
All praise and thanks belong to Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala,the creator of Heaven and Earth and all that is within.May Allah guide us to what is right and prevent us from straying to the path of Forbidden things.May the Peace and Blessing be upon our Prophet,His household and Companions.Ameen.
We continue our discussion on Islam and Pornography:-
Turk:Thanks for your contribution.Fantasies may be accomodated within Islam provided the couple are married,since sexual intercourse is only sanctioned within marriage.Engaging in such activities,the bounds of common decency and good taste should be the watchword.Acts of depravity should be avoided,subjecting your partner to humiliating and embarrassing action should also be avoided.In short,you should not expose your partner to any form of harm whether Physical or Psychological(real or imagine).Foreplay is highly recommended by our Prophet(SAW).Anal Sex(sex through the back passage)is prohibited,so is also homosexualism,lesbianism or the Act of Bestiality(sex with animals).The Holy Quran says:....."They are (like) a garment/Cover to you and you are (like) a garment to them..." Sura Baqara 2:187.
This therefore calls for communication between the couples to determine their likes and dislikes.Lack of communication about sexual matters is due to Cultural Indoctrination,where sex is regarded as taboo,but this need not be so according to the teachings of Islam.
Serenata:
Thanks for keeping us informed about this couple and continue playing your roll as an honest broker,and let not sympathy or familarity deviate you from the truth,Stand for the truth.At the end of the day,you will be respected for your honesty and evenhandedness.Your reward with Allah is unquantifiable.The Holy Quran says ..."And when
you judge between man and man,That you judge with justice...For God is He Who heareth and seeth all things." Holy Quran 4:58.Again in verse 105 of the same sura,Allah instructs us thus " we have sent down to you the Book of truth,that you might judge between men,as guided by God,so be not be used as an advocate by those who betray trust."
There are problems involved in watching Pornography.As one door opens the way to another evil.And what happens when you watch them,they are meant to stimulate desire and what happen when you are stimulated,some people would want to go all the way to satisfy their sexual desire,herein lies danger,leading to fornication and adultery.It is advisable to leave them completely or else satan would get the better of you.
The husband is wrong to think that such dates never posed a threat to his marriage.They do and the sooner he admits his guilt and ask his wife for total forgiveness,the better and the most honourable thing he can do rather than contining deluding himself.Ask this man for me,what would have been his reaction if it was the wife that was engaged in such EXTRA-MARITAL AFFAIRS? I do not trust this man.In my book any man/woman who can betray his/her marrital vows,is not somebody to trust in other things;but for the sake of her children,and above all to preserve the relationship,That is why I am on my knees appealing through you for this lady to Forgive her husband and let her make it quite clear that if there is any repetition of this wreckless and wayward behaviour again ,she would have no option but to ask for a divorce.
Serenata,What is Art you asked? In islam,there is nothing wrong in drawing as long as the images do not depict nudity or any form of indecency.The picture or image should not be revered or Glorified.
The detested art are pictures and or images that are worshipped or venerated.Within these restrictions,drawing human,animals, nature scenes and so on is permitted.What is prohibited is making a statue or sculpture of a living being that has shade(depth or is three dimensional).
Santanfara:well said."It should be avoided at all cost."
Formby: You have raise very interesting points which I will try to answer.
You are quite right.This man is a serial-adulterer.And you ask "if a husband or a wife does this,can they really ever do anything to mend the damage? Yes.In spite of this,there is accomadating room for such people within Islam,hence the need for religious Creed,There is the doctrine of Repentance and Forgiveness.If he repents most sincerely and ask her partner for forgiveness,then with strong faith in God and the Last Day as preached by Islam,this could be enough to convince the victim to forgive for the sake of God and to give her relationship a second chance.The Holy Quran says: "And Verily,I am indeed forgiving to him who repents,believes (In My Oneness and Associate none in worship with me)and does righteous good deed,and the then remains constant in doing them(till his death)Holy Quran 20:82.
And the Prophet(SAW)said "Islam erases whatever came before it,and repentance erases whatever came before it."
Formby,I would have suggested the same to you if you were involve in such an unfortunate saga.I can feel your pain for this woman,so are we all,but you have to learn to forgive since to Forgive is Divine.There is no doubt that the woman has been wronged,shamed,humil
iated beyond measure.I would only appeal to her to take our pleadings into account before making her mind,if after all this,she cannot overcome or contained her anger,then she can ask for a divorce.
Now lets us examine the literatue in more detailrd:-
Adultery is undoubtedly a very great sin,if allowed to go unchecked it may disrupt/weakened the social fabric of Society.It is because of this consideration amongst other reasons that severe punishment has been reserved for this major crime in the Penal Law of Islam.Islam therefore enjoins upon muslims to keep away from all those satanic things which lead a man woman to adultery like watching Pornography.The seriousness of this crime is not limited only to immediate punishment in this world,but the punishment in the hereafter is hasher and more severe.It says in the hadith narrated by Al-Bukhari(7074) from Samurah Ibn Jundud(May Allah be pleases with him)that the Prophet(SAW) said "Last night two persons came to me and woke me up,and set off with me.We went on and we came to something like a tannoor oven,In which there were shouting and voices,we looked inside and saw naked men and women towards whom flames were coming from the bottom of the oven.When the flames reached them,they made a noise.I said to them(the two angels)who are these people?They said to me,we will tell you...the naked men and women in the structure like a tannoor oven are the adulterers and adulteresses."
The Prophet(saw)is also reported as saying that if a person commits adultery,Allah will open for him in his grave eighty doors of hell from which will emerge scorpions and snakes to trouble him until the Day of Resurrection.
When the one who has commited this major sin must do is to repent sincerely to Allah and keep away from everything that may lead to this calamitous path in the future.Allah rejoices over the repentance of sinners and accepts it from them.Allah say in the Holy Quran:-" Say.O Ibaadi(My Slaves)who has transgressed against themselves(by committing evils deeds and sins)!Despair not of the Mercy of Allah,Verily,Allah forgives all sins,Truly,He is oft-forgiving,Most Merciful.(39:53)
Ibn Katheen(may Allah have mercy on him)In his tafsir of the Holy Quran said:This verse is a call to all sinners and others to repent and turn to Allah.It tells us that Allah forgives all sins for the one who repents to him and turn away from them,no matter what they are,even if they are many and are like the foam of the sea.{Tafsir Ibn Katheen (7/106)}.
May Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala helps us to see the intents and purpose of the DIVINE LAWS and thus,practice them with understanding.Ameen.
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Formby
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 Oct 2008 : 04:53:56
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Musa, thank you very much for that wise and considered response. In your comments to me, yes, I was a little bit harsh but I was trying to put the other perspective. The best outcome would be for the man to repent and come good and I think we agree on that.
But I must take umbrage with the tract on homosexuality. Since the advent of homo sapiens, there have been homosexuals. There has never been a time and place in history where there hasn't been a percentage of the human population who've prefered members of their own sex. It's just part of humanity, it's not something people choose, and to punish people for it is cruel and inhuman. AFAIC we are all part of the human family. It's not even relevant for the family man or woman to concern themself with the issues of those people. Just let them be able to co-exist without rancour. |
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serenata
Germany
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Posted - 25 Oct 2008 : 16:04:51
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musa pembo, sorry that I couldn't answer earlier, but at the moment I have a terrible lot of work.
Thank you so much for your wise and helpful words. The couple I was talking about sends you best wishes; they are very grateful because you helped them a lot. I think they will stay together, and this is also your merit.
I appreciate your teachings because your words are always fair and reasonable, you avoid easy and unidimensional answers.
Nonetheless I agree with Formby on the subject of homosexuality. But this is another topic, and one that has been discussed excessively here in the Bantaba... |
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