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kondorong

Gambia
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Posted - 16 May 2006 : 20:02:53
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quote: Originally posted by njucks
your reaction to the medical school is perhaps the most disappointing i have seen so far. sometime back you wrote passionately about 'country boys' rising up to take their share. its ok for most people who live in the urban areas healthcare is accessable and almost affordable. i dont really know how much it cost to import doctors but i think it cheaper to make your own. ultimately it is rural healthcare that will benefit from homemade doctors.
but you're over reacting to nothing. so what if the job adverts are old. the website you posted has news dated 2002!!!!!!!!!! does that mean we shouldnt buy their stuff as you recomend. c'on
http://www.echohealth.org.uk/news.html
the medical school is a great step. secondly the school i'm currently attending has 8 computers for 30 students in our department. obviously there are more PC at the library and other places in the campus. its the ratio that counts!! not a PC for each student that would be wasteful. no one sits on a PC for 24hrs
this is just a picture showing books. students are registered with the university of the gambia not at RVTH. the university like all others has its own library. also do u know if there are other rooms with books? is there a library at the nursing school? furthermore you ignore that fact that today most research journals are availabe online by subscription!!
i'm not defending anyone. but you have to be objective. you cannot DESIGN a country. you can't say i'll do this and then when thats done do that. things have to evolve together.
sometime back i visited a Dam in northern Sweden. when it was bieng built there were no roads there then and the weather is cold, so they got men who could stand the cold weather to carried the tools. this is the same mentality that the pioneers of nuclear energy had. they had no 'idea' as it wasnt done before.
you have to be bold and determined to face the challenges. start small and rise.
you're only trying to say that Spring should follow Autumn 
I am not "DESIGNING" a country but certainly to have a teaching hospital where medical equipment are held together with candle wax is certainly not what i want to see. I have been involved with the hospital for many years and i tell you, even thermometers are scare.
What i have also said is that it is a PUBLIC REATIONS PROBLEM and should be fixed. Many who want to help want to see up top date information? It does not tell well. Is there anything wrong with that? There is some one on the payroll whose job is to do just that and if he is not doing it, he needs to explain. If you do not care i do because my tax dalasi is paying him.
May be you needed to revisit my posting again. In fact i sent an email yesterday to them with suggestions for good public relations issues which outsiders need to see to be convinced to help. i don’t just criticize but come up with constructive ways to move forward. i hope they take on some of my advice to improve further. I will always speak for what i believe as an individual.
in a democracy, we are privileged to air our concerns to our representatives and this is subjected to a debate and finally the interest of the electorates "should" prevail.
Have you heard of a story in the united states some years ago who sued god to court for taking away his youth. He was given due process and he filed his case in the courts. Would you dismiss him or allow him to exercise his rights of due process.
i am certainly not anywhere near this man. i am raising concerns which are genuine. it is not acceptable to be advertising jobs that have closing dates in 2004 on a web site in 2006. This certainly will raise eyebrows and they are right to feel that way.
In fact the questions you have raised about whether there are other libraries for students should not answered by me. The site should have explained that not me. Neither are you sure if there are other resources for university teaching hospital. If will quote their own site, they said “ this is a lone shelf of books” and we need more.
Njuks it can’t be any more explicit. The site says they have a lone shelf of books. May be you are the Chancellor and therefore need a lot of explaining to do.
I AM HESITANT OF A TEACHING HOSPITAL WITH A “LONE SHELF OF BOOKS”. IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THAT STATEMENT THEN TELL THEM TO REMOVE IT FORM THE SITE.
You see job postings have to be current. It does not tell well of the Teaching Hospital to be maintaining postings that are out of date for nearly three years. It is not acceptable.
MAY BE I NEEDED TO BE TOLD WHERE THE CONCERNS I HAVE RAISED HAVE FAULTED. I don’t care what other people do to their sites, I am concerned with what I have a stake in- and that is the Gambia where I have every right to express my feelings. If Gambia cannot give me that opportunity where else can I have it? I am not asking for one computer per student. You sound as though I came from another planet. I have been to college and now what access can do. In many of the western societies you talk about, computers are easily available even in city libraries, county libraries, and federal libraries not to mention college libraries. In the Gambia, you either have at your school or you don’t have it. YOU NEED TO COMPARE LIKE WITH LIKE IN TERMS OF ACCESS AND HOW GAMBIA FITS IN, IN RELATION TO INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY.
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kondorong

Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 16 May 2006 : 20:44:56
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Just wanted to add something. I did not comment on your posting that the site i gave for ECHO has a message in 2002. Yes it does. But that is welcome message from the Director and has nothing to do with what they do.
I am sure you have studied management judging by your economic postings. There is what is called CRITICAL OPERATING TASKS or in short COT and Management Approved Tasks or MAT. A COT is what you must do to claim to be in that line of business. For example, to be called an Airline, you have to operate one. The MAT is not that critical. They are what management has designed to help in the daily operational challenges to meet its mission statement. That can be compromised but certainly not the COT. IT IS A DO OR DIE.
Therefore for us to have a teaching hospital, we have to have modern and up to date equipment, alongside with the critical educational materials to qualify to be called one. If we do not, then we have ceased to be a Teaching Hospital. This is the basic that i expect the management of the institution to understand if do not already. I share your concerns about having to start small and in any case I am very open to that. But one has to learn to walk before one can run. If you bite more than you can chew coupled with a sense of arrogance of not listening, this is what you get. Certainly an up to date website is not a BIG CHALLENGE FOR SOME ONE WHO HAS EMBARKED ON BUILDING A TEACHING HOSPITAL.
Money is not the problem. The problem is misguided priorities. More futampaf, beach parties, marble homes, rat race and specially designed hummers to show the world we are not cheap when basic malaria drugs are a rare commodity in our health delivery system. Don’t even talk about gloves, syringes and even diesel to run the generator during critical operations.
I want to see Gambia as developed as the rest of the world and this is a desire I will always have. As Africans we have been told to not question but I intend to break loose.
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“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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jambo

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Posted - 16 May 2006 : 20:50:28
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kondorong, you are so articulate i like your debate, never nasty or unhappy and you know your facts. I enjoy reading your postings.
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kondorong

Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 16 May 2006 : 21:03:34
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quote: Originally posted by jambo
kondorong, you are so articulate i like your debate, never nasty or unhappy and you know your facts. I enjoy reading your postings.
Thanks. Unfortunately i always spoke my mind even as a small boy. This is not something new with me. African leaders only understand one thing. YOU HAVE TELL IT AS IT IS. BE VERY BLUNT. BEING NICE TO THEM DOES NOT WORK. I CAN SAY WHAT I WANT AND WILL NOT BE CALLED RACIST BECAUSE I AM BLACK. WELL SOME HAVE ACCUSED ME OF BEING BRAIN WASHED OR SUFFERING FROM MENTAL SLAVERY. I REALLY DONT BOTHER AS LONG AS I AM CONVINCED AND THERE IS EVIDENCE POINTING TO THE FACTS THAT MY CAUSE IS GENUINE.
Certainly some people will not like my style because i spill the beans and pull out all the skeletons in the cupboards. There is too much secrecy in Africa. WE ARE NOT POOR. WE HAVE MISGUIDED PROIRITIES WHICH UNFORTUNATELY IS A CHRONIC DISEASE AND THE UPHILL BATTLE IS GETTING NASTIER BY THE SECOND.
The Lorenzo Curve( which measures the disparity in incomes in relation to poverty) is worst i Africa than anywhere else on the face of the planet. Private jets are now birthday presents to in-laws in a continenet where nearly 1.5 million babies die before they reach six months of age due largely to the absence of basic things like clean knifes to cut omblical cords or gloves to prevent infection at birth. THINK ABOUT THAT.
sSome times when i read the Bible, the plagues that are talked about are though it is talking about Africa. It is a continenet sinking by the day and every second a child is dying of a preventable disese like malaria.
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“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 17 May 2006 : 00:06:01
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kondorong

Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 17 May 2006 : 00:12:02
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quote: Originally posted by njucks
i'm always learning from you. but kindly give them a chance its an effort.
You are a fire brand and as i have said over and over again, you have a sense of maturity that one day, Gambia will be able to thrust her chest for sons like you.
What i have like about you is that you speak for what you belive in. We do not have to agree but it is very healthy when we can stand up for our believes. Sooner or later, it will be possible in the Gambia for opposing parties to campaign freely and then meet at the table of sisterhood and drink ATTAYA together just like George Hailey as a Republican, but appointed as Ambassador to the Gambia by a Democratic President.
Gambia can learn a lot from hs appointment.
Good job Njuks. You have always put forward academically stimulating thoughts and i have personally followed your postings.
You see brother martin luther said "... graduallism leads to standstillism which leads to doing nothingism.... we have cooled down for too long .." |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
Edited by - kondorong on 17 May 2006 01:08:46 |
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