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mbay
Germany
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 Posted - 12 Sep 2008 : 08:58:04
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Hi every one, i have seen that my recently topic of forwarding the theory of WTC. In fact about the third building has taking its dramatically curse of negatively. Was it that because being forwarded from me. is it about gwb, what so ever that be. I am here for today and for now by not just apologizing to Meme but to any person who feel bad or find it some what wrong as I do. My intension was never as it come up, but about gwb and maybe the owner of the 3d building, again sorry and am asking for forgiveness.
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MeMe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12 Sep 2008 : 14:21:54
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Mbay, I wasn't looking for an apology and can assure you that the topic of your thread (which seems to have disappeared??!!)is,for me, emotive enough to warrant a discussion. I can guarantee you that my responses weren't levelled at you as a fellow poster but rather (as I said in my later posting on the disappeared thread?!)at the, in my view, ill-considered timing of your thread.
Wishing everyone a fine Friday and a peaceful weekend 
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serenata
Germany
1400 Posts |
Posted - 12 Sep 2008 : 17:10:07
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Thank you, MeMe, have a nice weekend.
I don't know why the WTC topic disappeared. Is 9/11 taboo? Did I say something absolutely inconvenient? I didn't follow the discussion yesterday evening; maybe it became too heated. Or Momodou received an angry call from Langley, Virginia...   |
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Momodou
Denmark
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Posted - 12 Sep 2008 : 17:21:52
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That was a very tragic incident in which people from many countries died including Gambians and is a day of mourning. People felt that the timing of Mbay's posting was inappropriate and we had to show respect to the dead and their relatives.
BTW, the topic is not deleted but moved to the members only forum. |
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serenata
Germany
1400 Posts |
Posted - 12 Sep 2008 : 17:37:50
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| I agree. It was indeed a very, very sad day. A day with tragical consequences not only for the poor victims of the terrorist attack itself - no matter who started it. It was also tragical for the thousands of innocent victims in Iraq and Afghanistan, for the thousands of soldiers who died in the two wars which followed this terrible day. |
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serenata
Germany
1400 Posts |
Posted - 12 Sep 2008 : 18:04:09
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But I have one more question: Why do people think it is disrespectful to the victims, and I mean ALL victims of 9/11, not only those in New York, but in Afghanistan, in Iraq, in Abu Gureib, in Guantánamo, etc., if at least once a year people discuss the official version of this attack and maybe try to find out the truth?
Apart from mbays posting: Isn't trying to find the truth a sign of deepest respect for the dead? If not, we could as well give up searching for the murderers in cases of 'normal criminal' homicide. |
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Momodou
Denmark
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Posted - 12 Sep 2008 : 18:35:35
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| Sereneta, I agree with you that anyone who died not only in NY but Afghanistan, Irak or at some remote detention camp are all victims. Every life is equal and any loss of life as a consequence of the 9/11 is sad. |
A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone |
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dbaldeh
USA
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Posted - 12 Sep 2008 : 22:08:48
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I agree that it is a day of mourning for all those who lost their lives on Sept 11. It is additionally a day of mourning for all victims of political or religious aggression.
It is also significant that we discuss these issues regardless of their level of tragegy. Without discussion we cannot understand the motives and the real impications of such magnitude of attacks.
There is a very serious psycological aspect to Sept 11, that needs some serious deep thinking.
The fact that young people like the 9/11 attackers will have a mindset to a level of driving airplanes while they are in them and crash them into buildings is so tragic that it threatens our human existence. It is quite different from a mental perspective to drop a bomb on people and escape versus commiting such a grave sucide.
There is nothing that justifies dropping bombs on people, but if you notice since the September 11, attacks, sucide bombers have increased tremendously in Iraq, and other parts of the world. It was a new weapon that threatens our human conscience.
Imagine these people living all their lives; left mothers, fathers, wives, children etc just one day sacrifice their lives like that? For what it is worth I cannot comprehend.
So in short, we need to discuss these things, and try to understand the mindset of such people who sometimes go after their own people like in Iraq. It is a tragedy and if such people have their hands on nuclear weapons, imagine what they can do to our human existence?
Anyone of us and our families could have been the victims of such attacks. Sad! Sad! and really Sad!!! |
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
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MeMe
United Kingdom
541 Posts |
Posted - 13 Sep 2008 : 10:25:25
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| Totally agree, dbaldeh! |
It is better to die standing than to live on your knees - Ernesto Guevara de la Serna |
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mbay
Germany
1007 Posts |
Posted - 14 Sep 2008 : 13:54:43
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"Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending U.S. soldiers out on a task that is from God," she exhorted the congregants. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan) ." plan of what, miss plain?
These are words of the newly choosing vp of John McCain miss Sarah Palin and this might be the vp of the world of peace for Muslim and none Muslim and is this not a kind of at declaration of a war?
And what GW Bush said after 9/11 was even worst by using the word of Almighty Allah in perspective view of Islam which i will not wish to repeat it.
These two strong words are coming from a so call civilised person?
So should we wonder if broking institute says that 70% of (mid east) Muslim believes that this is war on Islam? And there are the US fighting against a terror, how can this work?
You have to see that the US is doing not properly because if don’t wins good peoples min but just the politicians will not work.
There will never be justice in the world of GW Bush and has no interest of searching truth. Not just truth about wtc but roots of this all nasty activity conflict we have around the globe, he is real our problems. They spotting every where, if one area is getting cold the next button is ready press like we see with his neighbourhood countries.
So my question to those who supported him, Is that Wright by blowing the whole innocent community in the name of our safety, in the name of freedom? Which i never believes ,If the scrupulous terrorist use person as human shield is that justifies a high civilized world to act in same ways as (under sectary of state)James Glassman said in bbc Hardtalk?, which i real enjoys because is the same person who also said we cont wins by bombs but by propagations
And what do they understand about human shield and views of the terrorist as always totally different but no body have Wright to talk about it, at least not in the west.
And what about pumping the billions of $s in to the countries that have no interest of democracy or respect of human right, which we are hungry for, In the name of Freedom our safety? Don’t they understand that exactly this area lays the problems of the conflict? Off course they do but other interest is much greater that why looking for a solution here has to field.
We have to understand that it is very easy to brain washed peoples today specially in these trouble areas,
I follows a very good bbc reports how it all likely to begging of been a terrorist, all this is coming from poor political aviations and very angry politically background, how easy to get the bomb-feeders. Sadly that bbc couldn’t come to conclusions how to end it.
I don’t much also how to end it because it is a politic which folding, like about money, about dignity, about lost of hope, the road has no ending but i believe one thing, So we can go around and comes around but the problems will stay same or worst, so long there is no definition about terrorist and Islam the problems will stay, so long we don’t understand that this Arab terrorist are using they disadvantage in the advantage of Islam the problems will only grows, so long GW Bush America do not have respect for the other nation there will be more problems, so long ..... The list is long.
And what about stop spending all this billion the blood river of ignorance and forgoing the millennium tracks, The US is not anymore interest about it?, and what about paying the UN the billions debt.
It is time to tell the US and some of its aliens that this is no interest of any by dragging this conflict deeper and deeper without an point of views. There no inters even for sack that innocent people have to die, and take its real name what use to be known to the world“mother of freedom” and concentrates on human right and millennium views that has been promis to the world.
Ready more from here:http://www.terrorfreetomorrow.org/
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