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gambiabev

United Kingdom
3091 Posts

Posted - 05 Feb 2008 :  21:12:16  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
DO you diliberately misunderstand me?I dont want to ban anything.

ALL students should learn about the major religons. There is a GCSE course in religous studies. This is a good course.

But you dont have to believe anything to get an A...... You are learning about the religions not beng indoctrinated into one of them!!!

The Koran and Bible arent facts and we shoudlnt discuss it with pupils in a state school as if they ARE facts...we should just say a muslim believes this or a christian believes this.

I am a teacher in a free thinking world. It is not part of my job to indoctrinate anyone into a religion or any other way of thinking.


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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 05 Feb 2008 :  21:16:31  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
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Afterall if you think your culture is so superior to your host country, you probably should stay in your country.


Huh! Oh yeah, most gambians go to europe for cultural exchange! Non of them go to Europe for money, job, better health or wealthier life. Many africans try to go to europe to experience 'different culture'? Many mexicans cross the border illegally for 'democracy', 'secularism','coca cola','country music','steak house'?

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 05 Feb 2008 :  21:20:59  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
I don't misunderstood you. I am in favour a religious subject that intends to indoctrinate a student into a religion in schools. There is nothing wrong with that. If I am already indoctrinated to shamanism, what is wrong with me studying a subject that teaches me 'absolute truth' of superior? And why should I learn about islam if I have no interests at all?

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.

Edited by - turk on 05 Feb 2008 21:24:18
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gambiabev

United Kingdom
3091 Posts

Posted - 05 Feb 2008 :  21:21:30  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
As I said before MOST migration is economic!
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gambiabev

United Kingdom
3091 Posts

Posted - 06 Feb 2008 :  07:58:17  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
Turk learning about many religions and cultures broadens the mind. Indoctrination narrows the mind.
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 06 Feb 2008 :  08:53:08  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
Well, if someone is interested in learning about different cultures, they should be able to do so. However, there are people/families who want to focus on particular religion. That is freedom of choice.


diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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gambiabev

United Kingdom
3091 Posts

Posted - 06 Feb 2008 :  13:53:15  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
It is freedom of choice, but should not be part of state schooling.
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 06 Feb 2008 :  20:02:04  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
Why? Are schools against freedom of choice? I thought government's duty to provide an environment for citizens to fullfill their democratic rights such us religious freedom. To me it is against true secularism. It seems like government dictating their secularism to their citizens. Government must be secular, not the citizens.

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 07 Feb 2008 :  09:26:52  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080207/ts_afp/turkeypoliticsreligion


diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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njucks

Gambia
1131 Posts

Posted - 07 Feb 2008 :  10:02:06  Show Profile Send njucks a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by gambiabev

I am a teacher in a free thinking world.



lol. i dont think you live in a 'free thinking world''. you are a Free Thinker in a Anglican-Christian country. Britain is no different from Saudi Arabia in terms of having a state religion.

turk, i dont see how Atheism can be thought in schools as its not a religion. there is simply nothing to believe.it has not historic text like the bible etc
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 07 Feb 2008 :  10:56:55  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
njucks

Atheism should be taugth in schools just like other religions. In atheism, you believe in non-existence of supreme being. Didn't you get a lots of information here from various posters about atheism? Darwinism? Actually, indeed, it has historic context. Check this out

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism


diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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