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Santanfara



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Posted - 17 Jan 2008 :  13:14:25  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Janko

Santanfara!

Harmony in diversity” is the key word here. I think given the context Ethnicity is more suitable than Tribe.

Thanks for giving this very sensitive topic its right perspective/outlook. “Harmony in Diversity” would not only open our minds but also direct the issue in a positive direction.



thanks for that encouragement janko. infact yesterday i was watching a programm of the kenya issue,the expert on the panel were stating that the crux of the kenya problem was little to do with tribal conflict.they claim that the bourning problem is deprevation and imbalance wealth distribution but the government was quick to blame tribal trouble. when we dig deeper into our problems,we will find out that we are not as bad as some make us out to be. if income levels are such that it favours others over the rest then discontentment builds in .politicians are smart ash ,they blame other unrelated issues. tony blair's spin doctor a lady call joe moore did it ,she said ''lets burry the bad news in crisis''. confuse people and you get away with murder.
africans have lived together with different cultures for decades and we have few tribal conflicts. in belgium ,there is brewing problem of language .some politicians are calling for a split. what do we call that? in former checholovacia why did they split up into slovakia and chech republic? why is sabia trying to split from yougoslavia ? this are tribal problems .we are not as bad as some commentators would analyse us.

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

www.suntoumana.blogspot.com
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Santanfara



3460 Posts

Posted - 22 Jan 2008 :  09:17:12  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
thanks to janko and kayatta for their brilliant contributions on the debate the genesis of tribalism. when sankareh for whatever reason decline to publish my response to sam ,pa nderry's freedom stepped-up to the plate. that is very mature of pa.
i have my say now,i hope sam can do the right thing and appologise to the person of manneh and saho.

http://www.freedomnewspaper.com/Homepage/tabid/36/mid/367/newsid367/2794/Mistaken-Identity-Lands-Lt-Colonel-Samsideen-Sarr-Into-The-Gutters-/Default.aspx

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

www.suntoumana.blogspot.com
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Santanfara



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Posted - 22 Jan 2008 :  11:03:57  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
so sarr abandon gainako also .was it about the pariahs of dooms .i wish to read that piece again gainako folks.but for now he is protected by his new found friend. we also await his propose new book. by the way former president jawara's daughter wrote a wonderful book about the WORLD TRADE ORGANISATION. try to read it.

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

www.suntoumana.blogspot.com

Edited by - Santanfara on 22 Jan 2008 14:27:20
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Santanfara



3460 Posts

Posted - 22 Jan 2008 :  11:29:48  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
the pariahs of dooms .a fiting poem by Yero Jallow.

http://www.gainako.com/fejango/Issue~046-2007/

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

www.suntoumana.blogspot.com

Edited by - Santanfara on 22 Jan 2008 14:27:52
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Dalton1



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Posted - 22 Jan 2008 :  19:54:56  Show Profile  Visit Dalton1's Homepage Send Dalton1 a Private Message
Uncle Suntou,

Thanks for your forward of that poem. I am sure you read animal farm. well, so, so...the poem would mean a hell lot of puppies out there still hurting Gambians blindly or with arrogance, sucking innocent blood. It was written in a general context not refering to an individual. In poetry or prose though, everyone is entitled to an interpretation which is the beauty of its existence.

On a clarification note, I debated with Big Sam at the echo and at Gainako. I like to call him big sam because he can be my father. I mean, way older than me. As far as I am concerned, he will still debate me mildly in any of those forums. He lasted me hard, and I did too. In fact, his last commentary carried by the echo titled "Colonel Sam Sarr takes issues with Yero Jallow" is still a trailblazer piece. Back then, among other things, I had a problem with Big Sam's utterance that Sanna Sabally should be taken to the gallows. If you check the archives of this forum, I was among those that protested Sadam being taken to the gallows, just simply because, to me, it is insane justice.

It is true also we invited him for a interview, but he said he was busy at the material time and he quickly directed us to his book which I believe he generously sent to most media outlets for free. He is a kind! Like big Sam, we invited many others, who couldn't meet an interview. At some point, you probably followed- We invited Dr. Saine, Dr. Saba Jallow, Dr. S Nyang and Dr. Ba-Gomez. Only Dr. Ba-Gomez and Dr. Jallow showed up. That's just a gist of what we go through daily. There is no blame for anyone. In fact, the same thing for Major Ann, living with us in Minnesota.

To be honest, from Gainako's point of view and from my own, we respect that Sam is not quiet like the many others. Had he wished, he could have lived unnoticed. We respect further he debated at Gainako. Whereever he comments at, as long as Gambians can access it, it's well and good.

In the end, i congratulate you and Sam for a wonderful debate. While it is still healthy, I encourage you to continue. In fact, engage him without making it look like a one man show.


Regards,
Dalton.

"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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Santanfara



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Posted - 23 Jan 2008 :  21:25:07  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
the power of an editor under strutiny .sankareh going the personal route.
read his sudden reaction.

http://www.thegambiaecho.com/Homepage/tabid/36/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/1023/Default.aspx

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

www.suntoumana.blogspot.com
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buba

57 Posts

Posted - 24 Jan 2008 :  10:57:00  Show Profile
Santanfara,
I am humbly awaiting these rejoinders. It will be very disappointing if they try to make it personal. This is a very important topic, but only if treated objectively.

Personally, i had experienced tibalism when i was at High School. There was an on-going campaign to elect a School headboy. I was the 'Campaign Co-ordinator' for one of the contestants. Brother, to this date i do not know what tribe he hails from (except that i know he is not a Mandinka...i Swear to God for that).

So how did i experience tribalism? I had a classmate who was very closed to me as a friend. One day, after School, i went to her house before we finally proceeded to my house for her first visit. While there at her house, her elder brother who happens to be attending the same school as us makes the following comment: '' Mandinkas like leadership a lot, they think they are the only capable ones'' He was making reference to the said election. The funniest thing was that the guy thought i belong to another tribal groupping, so probably that gave him the licence to poke sick fun at mandinkas.

One of his three sisters (not my classmate because she was visibly embarrassed) asked me if i was from a certain tribe. I replied that i am a Mandinka and i am ccurrently running the campaign for that non-Mandinka guy contesting for headboyship - whom the brother also supports.

There was this kind of graveyard silence for a while before i asked my friend to play one of the Senegalese musician's tunes so that i could dance with her little sister.

What disappointed me was the fact that his own father comes from a different tribe as the mother. I guessed my classmate probably must have confronted him later, because even their mum apologised to me in addition to her's. So if we are talking about tribalism, OBJECTIVITY should be the key word. If i had talked about that guy's tribe as being tribalists, i would be wrong because not all are the same...a typical example is his own sister who went on to marry a different tribesman. The good thing is i'm still great friends with the family. Only pnoned my friend last week...this is the way it should be!!!
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Alhassan

Sweden
813 Posts

Posted - 24 Jan 2008 :  12:04:30  Show Profile Send Alhassan a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Santanfara

the power of an editor under strutiny .sankareh going the personal route.
read his sudden reaction.

http://www.thegambiaecho.com/Homepage/tabid/36/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/1023/Default.aspx


Santanfara,
I think this guy has a lots of problems. I have red some of his pieces but not impressed at all. An angry person cannot write sensibly.I suggest you just neglect him because he is going to be too personal which is not ok.
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