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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 18 Dec 2007 : 12:44:07
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I thought this link would be of interest to all those Pseudojournalist out there. Now if the cap don't even attempt to put it on that would be my general advice.
http://allafrica.com/stories/200712130929.html
Peace
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jambo
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Posted - 18 Dec 2007 : 14:33:33
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this is why bantaba is good, thanks sis, troublemakers be warned |
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Alhassan
Sweden
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Posted - 18 Dec 2007 : 16:11:10
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jambo,
This was good for the so called journalists seeking assylum in the EU or the US. There has been too much of disinformation about the Gambia. I hope all these online Gambian blogs would read the artickle and start working seriously for their own good. I hope this signal was noted. I have noated it. |
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Dec 2007 : 18:25:40
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Culled from the Gambiajournal
Dear Editor,
I am writing in response to the some what bizarre statement attributed to the Head of the EU office responsible for The Gambia carried in newspaper editions of 13th December. In it, the head of the mission took issue with your paper's charaterisation of the bilateral relationship between the Gambia and the EU as being 'tension' filled. While he acknowledged problems with some aspects of EU funded projects, he was emphatic that all is good with the government of Yahya Jammeh. The truth however contradicts the good ambassador's fanciful platitudes in that the government of the Gambia has consistently failed to meet even minimum objective criteria that supposedly underlie the bilateral relationship. The government's manifestly abhorrent record in the crucial areas of governance, rule of law and human rights alone stand in sharp contrast to the values that characterise the EU. Additionally, Yahya Jammeh ever since he staged a coup has used every opportunity to blame and insult what he calls Western powers, euphemisms for EU and US for the consequences of his own incompetence and wretched leadership. He has never in all his years in office met on a bilateral basis any EU head of state or government save a chance meeting on the sidelines of regional groupings.
So, on the one hand stands the EU, a grouping of mature democracies imbued with inherent values of decency and committed to projecting those notions and all their benefits to the Gambia and its people and on the other a murderous tyrant who ensures nothing but failure in all public policy matters. And not only does he show ingratitude to the benefactors who graciously extend goodwill, he also shamelessly tries to use them as a vehicle for posturing to other far flung tyrants in the hope of currying favors. The relationship between the EU and the Gambia under it's current leadership can't be described as optimum and I think your article which seem to have prompted this strange note of clarification is both correct and praise worthy. If the ambassador is willing to jettison core European values and elect to make cavorting a bloody dictator an essential part of his duty that is his prerogative. I am just glad that your newspaper is as assiduous and honest in its reporting as it is thoughtful and sharp in its editorials. Keep up the good work.
Karamba Touray
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Dec 2007 : 19:21:43
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Nyarikangbanna it was the Observer editor who wrote the original piece so wouldn't it be wise for Karamba Touray to respond to the genarator of the information?
The above piece is so subjective does Karamba Touray honestly expect people to take his utterances seriously? For the record where is Iain Duncan Smith again? He fell by the wayside of a long line Conservative Oppositional Leaders after losing his party's vote of confidence on 29th October 2003as the Leader of the Conservative party. Well different folks for different strokes I think he'd be pleasantly surprised that their are some people who still consider him to be a political role model.
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Dec 2007 : 19:36:43
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Originally posted by Sister Omega
Nyarikangbanna it was the Observer editor who wrote the original piece so wouldn't it be wise for Karamba Touray to respond to the genarator of the information?
The above piece is so subjective does Karamba Touray honest expect people to take his maverick utterances seriously? For the record were is Ian Duncan again?
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Sister Omega
Well, Karamba's piece is published by the medium which was the subject of the allege EU debunk. So, I take it that it has the blessing of the Editor. That is alright for me because a different story have now been presented to enable people to analyse and make independant judgements. Those who wish to cherry pick are also at liberty to do so. Fair deal, won't it?
Anyway, IDS is still at Wesminster doing his best for his constituency of Chingford.
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dbaldeh
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Posted - 21 Dec 2007 : 04:01:31
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quote:
Originally posted by Sister Omega
I thought this link would be of interest to all those Pseudojournalist out there. Now if the cap don't even attempt to put it on that would be my general advice.
http://allafrica.com/stories/200712130929.html
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Sister Omega
Sister O, you have the right and freedom to call our young practicing journalist Pseudojournalist. It is upto every reader to read what the writers are writing and draw a conclusion. It is also worth noting that journalism is a profession like any other.
At the sametime I can state that not all that is written about the Gambia and the Jammeh regime represents PseudoJournalism. There are facts and lessons that are being documented daily for generations to come. Some of the writings certainly explain the motives of the writers but there are solid facts and significant issues discuss in both our online newspapers and forums.
If you discard all that is being written, then certainly your own writings fits the very name you are throwing at other writers. So I think you should look into the mirror and reflect on what you are trying to portray here.
What is even more revealing is the fact that you mentioned an editorial by one of the most ethically bankrupt and bias newspapers in the history of the Gambia, the daily observer. We all know the observer is a state run newspaper and it will do anything to back the destruction of the lives of the Gambian people and their country.
So honestly am very surprise that someone of your calibre will stand tall and defend the position of the observer on Pseudojournalism. I understand your desire to support Jammeh but for you to turn a blind eye on what is being written over and over by the observer is just beyond any words.
While observer can accuse Journalist in the diaspora of writing in the name of seeking Asylum, they forgot that in fact they are guilty of aiding a brutal military junta that has no future but to hang on to power for whatever cost.
The observer also failed to acknowledge that they are being degraded daily by the Jammeh regime by hiring and firing their senior managers on a daily basis. Their staff are not immune against anything as well because there are evidence of their staff being arrested and tortured.
I guess you miss the firing of radical Saja tall and please watch how the curren editor will go out as well.
Sister, with all due respect to you, but it will be embarrassing for you to stand tall and defend the observer. You know what Pseudojournalism is all about and that is what defines the daily observer. What say you??? |
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics |
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Dalton1
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Posted - 21 Dec 2007 : 05:14:29
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Mawdo Demba,
Remember when Mathew says "the cat running after the rabbit; the rabbit running after the cat." Isn't that a piece of laughter? But who the cap fits obviously should wear a dried dirty cap. I wish those mentioned by the Daily Obsever will stand tall to say their parts.
But for forum clearity; With all the many ways that people can legally adjust to permanent residency and citizenship without even getting to asylum. At least not at Gainako and All Gambian, as far as I witnessed/know. I guess the curious minds needs to update themselves or at least to be honest, even though they will never accept the truth. That's why I believe that hypocrisy or intellectual prostitution is in the blood veins. It is nothing but fabrications to paint in guestwork, in manner to smear. That's how I see that piece from the Daily Observer.
FOR THE RECORDS: As for me, what happened to my lovely "family" whose unending love & mercy covered me in any thing i needed (Praise be to God!), just like the million others.
kuh hammut, hammut. Life is private.
That said, how many are not online, yet their asylum cover files are handled by lawyers?
The battle against tyranny just began. We are moving with speed.
fanan jamaa & salam. good nite to you brother Demba & curdle your three kids under a warm and thick blanket. If it is cold in Seattle, like it is in Minnesota, then you put the thermometer at 75-80 degrees.
Thanks a lot for your honest opinion Demba. The Daily Observer is a garbage. What happened to "felicitations?" Since Sajar left, we never have felicitations at the observer...
Here are some words to think over:
http://www.gainako.com/fejango/Issue~119-2007/
(Baba Galleh Jallow; author of Mandela's other Children)
http://www.gainako.com/fejango/Issue~072-2007/
Madi Ceesay (New York, member of the external GPU)
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"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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Alhassan
Sweden
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Posted - 21 Dec 2007 : 11:57:30
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Dalton1,
What is it that you know that we do not know? I think we must stop interpriting others tex other than the meaning. I cannot understand your stand point when the Eu said it clearly. Must you insist to creat a problem that is not there? This is what you people do. The EU can talk and do things for themselves. They are not as we are. They seek for proofs and not rumors or misinterpritations. You cannot turn the man's speech to something else. He said it clearly and was written in black and white. Or is the said artickle wrong again? Did the man say as you have interprited? |
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Dalton1
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Posted - 21 Dec 2007 : 12:54:02
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Mawdo Al-hassan,
Also, read "felicitations" by Baba Galleh Jallow, and Madi Ceesay's pieces. It helps you appreciate the Daily Observer much better.
Here is also some humble advice for you. When threading with people, read all they forwarded before replying. Without reading the piece correctly with the links provided, it can trap one in a very funny situation because the people will know the individual is either very "incomprehensive" or "delusional" in accepting reality.
But yes, I will love to continue this debate with you after you carefully read
"felicitations to Dareh, part 1 & 2"
Madi Ceesay's rebuttal.
Thanks though for asking for clarity!!
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"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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Alhassan
Sweden
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Posted - 21 Dec 2007 : 13:18:48
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Dalton1,
Do you mean to say that the EU has problems with the Gambia? I would like to know what they are. The fact that Madi Ceesay and Baba Galleh Jallow wrote a peach does not mean that what they posted is right. Without the EU representatives voicing it out it is advisable to be quite. I follow the debate of the EU and do not add what is not been said or what I feel was said. I surpose that was why the EU rep. himmself gave an intervew towards this topic. If he was not miss quoted would he have gone to the newspapers to clarify himself? |
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Dalton1
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Posted - 21 Dec 2007 : 13:24:40
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Baba and Madi's pieces are well argued, constructively. That's why I ask you to go over it before commenting. Make sure you read it, cuz I will quiz you on it openly later on.
Catch you on this debate later on...
Dalton.
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"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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Alhassan
Sweden
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Posted - 21 Dec 2007 : 13:44:57
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Dalton1,
I shall quit this topic because accoprding to your strees about the pieces written, it seem as if Madi and BabaGaleh knows more about between the EU and Gambia relations than the EU representatives themselves.
The problem is that I can't take these socalled journalists seriousely because of the manar and language they use in discribing Gambia. Secondly, Gambia does not belong to one or shall always be ruled by one language group. This is the problem with the whole thing for me. |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 21 Dec 2007 : 18:07:51
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demba ,dalton and the many journalist out there ,yahya himself uses the media to sell himself and his bad image ,yet his supporters wish that the mad man shouldn't have any challenger.what dah hek. this man saturate our grts twenty four hours with his drumers and praise singer .yet the independent media is attack left right and centre by this sick people .what do they expect ,for us to sit by drink the jammeh filth? let alhasna and the crowd swallow all the jammeh nonsence ,we will not.continue brothers with the noble job.
as for my brother karamba touray ,he has the right to send his opinion to any credible news paper of his choice.what is the daily observer any way ? |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21 Dec 2007 : 19:48:01
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Santanfara,
There is something worth observing about this Jammeh rhetorics. Soon after the ugly coup that saw them parading the streets they came up with all types of empty slogans. Power to the people!! Patriotism!! Revolution!! (continue the list) They sound as if these words were of their particular APRC invention!! It goes like they have the sole monopoly of interpreting these terms and usually in their very narrow context to suit Jammeh's folly. They call people names and believe that is something to stand good. It does not matter how much they take themselves right and others wrong, we know that killing and stealing are two very wrong matters of life. How much sense is there with Jammeh using every public media facility to sell his bad image and still ready to damn the good efforts of decent independent Gambian media bodies for not praising his deceptive politics. It is strange that those staunch supporters over this and other platforms choose to sound like Jammeh; no tolerance for decency. As Jammeh feels free to kill, steal and maim Gambians, let independent Gambian media bodies take up all tools at hand to crush the deception. |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
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Posted - 21 Dec 2007 : 22:19:32
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Hi sister omega,
Once again am back!
But before I continue any further, I want to first appologise to you for my earlier posting where I mentioned your family.Am sorry about that.I didn't mean to disrespect any one's parents.
I was only so frustrated by your lark of forsight and real love of our motherland you called anscestral home to your childreen.
Sister you voice speaks volume the way you forgot about your native Jamaica shows everyone here at Bantaba you shall one day abandon us as well like trash.So only those like you will listen to your self imposed blindness to Jammeh's reign of terror.
Can you imagine if you call Jammeh a democrat and He turns and prove you wrong by calling himself a dictator of development, are you not fooling your self?
If Jammeh hijacked all the state institutions and made himself responsible for everything, does that not show you no one is compitent than him as far as he is concern?
If Jammeh accused African presidents of staying too long in power thus allowing corruption to florish and he now after tasting the honey turns like a chamelion says a different tune not proof himself of what you are so tirelessly defending?
Think of the Gambia and look at Jammeh campaigning against tribalism and even if you are blind try to feel the walls as every thing is vissible there of Jammeh's tribalism.Count his secretaries of states, PMs, directors, and take his tribe out see what is left for the rest of the other tribes!
Sister when I see women campaigning for Jammeh, I feel sorry for them very very sorry.How on earth can this man claim to be for the women of the Gambia how?You would not tell me because of many female secretaries of state! no you wouldn't.
Come-on sister sometimes you must be laughing to your self when you write as you make Bantaba so interesting anytime you defend Jammeh's regime.
I personally have nothing against Yaya Jammeh,I just can't ever support his policies only if I am insane.
For those who think speaking against Jammeh's regime means trying to calim assylum, think again.Who then would be speaking for those defenceless masses if all are quite?
I for one would never see injustice and turn a blind eye if that means seeking assylum then I am one despite am a british citizen.I love the Gambia more than any country in the world but if I cannot express myself freely in my own country without the brutal killers trailing behind me hungry for my blood how do I excercise my independance then?
I belief the British gave us independance and now our own brothers took all the little freedom we enjoyed even while we were under colonial rule and we are now slaves of our own territory with no right under the eyes of the notorious N.I.A.
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