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leokat
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 13 Dec 2007 : 14:43:22
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My boyfriend's sister has asked me to look at the possibility of her gaining sponsorship to study for a degree in computer science here in the UK. I don't wish to be negative (just realistic  ) so have advised her not to build her hopes up as I know the topic of study she has chosen is popular and, therefore, usually oversubscribed. However,I don't want to give up without having looked at the possibilities.
I am not able to fund her studies either here or in The Gambia. However, were she to come to the U.K. I would be happy to provide her with bed and board. I live in the South West of England so universities in this area are of particular interest. I've just googled sponsorships and bursaries and haven't come up with anything.
Does anyone have any ideas
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 13 Dec 2007 : 14:58:15
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last time i checked it was almost impossible to get sponsorship for first degree, normally UK sponsorship is for masters/doctorate etc. also the money is for studying only, who will pay her visa costs. if you do get a anything, it is strictly means tested, PLEASE, PLEASE DO NOT PAY ANY FEES TO BOGUS companies that "guarantee a student visa".
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lurker
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Posted - 13 Dec 2007 : 16:01:51
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no such thing any longer, i checked it out for my brother-in-law.
all the bursaries have gone.
only exist for qualified graduates with a job placement.
if you want someone to study here, you have to pay a whacking deposit to the school, get a letter of invitation from them, provide a bank statement, proof of transport here, funding for full school fees and board and lodging and expenses. we reckoned it would have been about £15000 a year for his course in business.you lose the deposit if he reneges.
we were also told of "agencies" and schools that asked questions later. - all con tricks.
They talk of working to support themselves during study.
you still have to do the rest and you can only do 20 hours a week at minimum wage i.e £100 a week max. assuming you ever get here and want to work in macdonalds every spare moment.
we had to give up. it was simply impossible.
good luck
you just have to fork out the hard cash or forget it, unfortunately,
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turk
USA
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Posted - 15 Dec 2007 : 11:07:18
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I guess when you have family in gambia, expectations adds up. My brother in law, my sister in law want to come to Australia or UK. As lurker mentioned it is very difficult and not realistic. And when they go to UK or australia or canada, they will not be able to study, because it is very expensive.
I offer them something else. And you may also consider that. I know a guy here from senegal who study in russian in engineering. Now he is working here with one of the telecommunincation compony (mobile). Some countries like russia, turkey, india in IT offer very good education. Especially in IT the area I am working, Indian, Turkish or Russian engineers much better than western educated ones. Anyway. I told them if they are serious about studying, they can study in Turkey or Russia? It is much cheaper and more affordable. Turkey has good colleges or universities especially in IT, engineering, agriculture, medical etc. Prices are much cheaper and accommodation are much cheaper as well. A student may need 300-400 per month to live. Per year, they may have to 5000-10000 dollars tution annually. Also in northern cyprius there are american and some european universities, tution and living much cheaper. I may not be able to support a full time study in UK or Australia, but in Turkey, Cyprius, Russia, India it is possible. I mean if you can sponser some but that money is not enough for UK or europe. You may consider same money for your relatives to study in Turkey or Russia. What do you guys think? |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 Dec 2007 : 22:22:37
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| Turk, you not wrong. I personally have known people who studied in Turkey in IT, Buisness and Finance etc and are definitely doing very well in The Gambia. Abt Russian graduates not so sure. However when it comes to Russia , i think the safety is the key issue. Of late reports of racial attacks which are most of time fatal are common in Russia. The neo-nazi groups etc. India too have produced good Gambian graduates in diverse fields from IT, law, Finance. Malaysia too is another good option. |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 15 Dec 2007 : 22:34:18
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Madiba
Russia may not be good in business etc. But they have very good engineering schools. Anyway, I agree with russian nazi attacks on foreigners. Obviously when you are african you are obvious, but russians also attacks the ethnic groupw from their land like armenian, chechens, azeris, tatar, jews too. Anyway that is another story. But that is valid concern.
The idea is if you want to sponser your relatives for higher education and have some budget, but UK or west are too expensive and difficult because of high tution, difficult visa, expensive living there are some alternatives.
I was not going to pay but provide this gambian to go Turkey for education. Later I realize that he wanted go greece via turkey as refugee. Recently tens of illegal refugee died trying to go greece in the water. He may have been dead if I helped him going to Turkey. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 17 Dec 2007 : 10:32:17
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turk, I agree they all want to go to english speaking country, it is too expensive, i always say go to Egypt, south africa, turkey, india learn IT, MATHS and science as a first degree, then you name your own salary, but to do they listen NO. You would think that they would take the chance to leave and study, but no they want more. There is sponsorship out there to help people from developing countries and it has to be taken seriously, I think that is what is missing.
SECONDLY do not recommended anyone to go to Russia to study what you read in the newspapers about attacks on africans is only the tip of the iceberg. |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 17 Dec 2007 : 21:20:17
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| I have my undergraduate/graduate in europe, I must admit, indian and russian IT educated people much better than europeans. Especially in UK, engineering education are not that great. Because england is not an industrial nation like germany. England has, economics, finance, business, law, political education superior to any other country though. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Dec 2007 : 22:14:50
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Jambo I sometimes find your postings patronising. If you were talking to people in uk on a local council estate would you use the same language?
ALL people are human and as such they want the best for their children. We are all optimistic of improvement through education.
My ideal view is that every switched on pupil that wants to learn will be able to.
If you have talent that should overcome all the other stuff!!!  |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 18 Dec 2007 : 09:34:15
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| which part is partonising, i would not use the language in UK, because they would not be asking me about education in UK |
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