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Karamba



United Kingdom
3820 Posts

Posted - 22 Nov 2007 :  19:00:50  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message

Twice in a row, Yahya Jammeh bundled his heavily pregnant wife to deliver in US hospitals. Is he not confident in the Health System of Gambia that he is now the Chief Doctor? Is Jammeh proud of Gambia or he simply wants to milk our economy and resources for amassing personal wealth? "Once beaten, twice shy." Should Gambians trust Jammeh at all?

Karamba

Janko

Gambia
1267 Posts

Posted - 22 Nov 2007 :  21:40:26  Show Profile  Visit Janko's Homepage Send Janko a Private Message
Tengkarang

The philosopher J. Dampha calls this kind of behaviour ”cutting the branch one is sitting on”. The English call it self-destruction
The Mandingka “Fang Jawoh or Koullukang Summunaa” (Self enmity or urinating on a matt one is sitting on)

Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy
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Karamba



United Kingdom
3820 Posts

Posted - 22 Nov 2007 :  22:36:04  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message
Janko,

Self-hate, is that what you mean? Not proud on oneself!! What are the chances then that a man who so hates himself will ever be in anyone's favour? Senegal has some reputable hospital facilities and is nearest to Gambia. Madam Zainab Souma Jammeh has a whole scheme for Baby safety at the Banjul's Victoria Hospital. Does she also not trust the facilities she celebrates with Gambian women on numerous occasions. Something is certainly wrong. Before he steps out after 40 years in power (vision 2020 and beyond) we Gambian tax payers have right to ask Yahya Jammeh why he abandons the facilities in Banjul to ship his wife and unborn babies abroad for ordinary delivery. What is the US policy on children born to diplomats and political figures? Records have it that Yankuba Touray too is fond of the same scheme. Who else do we know about??

Karamba

Edited by - Karamba on 22 Nov 2007 22:41:15
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Sister Omega



United Kingdom
2085 Posts

Posted - 23 Nov 2007 :  01:26:55  Show Profile  Visit Sister Omega's Homepage Send Sister Omega a Private Message
Karamba what makes you so sure that Jammeh dictates to his wife what she can and cannot do? After all for all any of us know that it maybe Mrs Jammeh's preference to have her children delivered in the US for whatever reasons ahe may have. If there is a bench mark for neo-natal care in an ideal world then all countries in the world would have excellent medical unfortunately that is not the case. But is something to aspire too.


Peace

Sister Omega


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Sister Omega
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jambo



3300 Posts

Posted - 23 Nov 2007 :  11:51:51  Show Profile Send jambo a Private Message
i understand the need for expert medical help, there maybe complications and local facilities would not be sufficient but why USA and not europe, good hospital in most european countries
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Karamba



United Kingdom
3820 Posts

Posted - 23 Nov 2007 :  17:19:42  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message

Sister Omega,

My being "so sure" about the president of Gambia bundling his wife and unborn child for delivery in America is immaterial. You should rather ask why the burden of that venture rests on Gambian tax payers. If you let us know that the cost is borne out of Jammeh's fat pocket, then better let us know also how much of corruption and embezzlement is supporting that budget. Any way round it, the president of a poor nation like Gambia indulged in such massive costly undertaking is forbidden, to say the least. Such a president apart from the excesses, has no pride in being born on African soil. Will you let us know if there are reasons to fly a heavily pregnant wife of a poor nation's president for this purpose? That is more what concerns Gambians than one of the tax payers (me ) raising the question about it.

Karamba
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 24 Nov 2007 :  00:00:46  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Karamba

Janko,

Something is certainly wrong. Before he steps out after 40 years in power (vision 2020 and beyond) ......


"Before he steps out after 40 years in power (vision 2020 and beyond) "

Thanks for realising that Karamba. I do not have any hope on sluggish leaderships of some opposition parties, opposition parties always loosing ground, some totally disorientated, foolish prides of commanding majority without any effect, and indecisive on how to tackle this regime in all fronts politically.

Comrade Karamba! What can they do to stop it within 3years time (for 2011 elections!)
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Karamba



United Kingdom
3820 Posts

Posted - 24 Nov 2007 :  01:07:56  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message

Brother Kobo,

I am in total agreement with you on the issue of Gambia's opposition and why they fail to tackle Jammeh. There are many reasons. Perhaps it is helpful to pitch out one very serious error that is causing massive failure on their part. THEY ARE NOT SERIOUS ABOUT UNSEATING JAMMEH AND THE ROTTEN SYSTEM THAT SUSTAINS HIS REIGN OF CORRUPTION AND TERROR COMBINED. All they want is to REPLACE him. Because of their ambition to REPLACE rather than UNSEAT the regime/reign, it turns out that they have all their good energy busy about how to dislodge Jammeh rather than rectify and correct the system entirely. Because Gambian voters are not convinced it is inconceivable to mobilise votes for opposition parties. They have to RESIGN not from their parties but from the postures taken. By that is meant, they have to shift attention from seeking to REPLACE Jammeh as though some of them could do worse than Jammeh. There is one fear; an unspoken fact about Gambian voters. They are not convinced about the current opposition doing any better than Jammeh. If it was true that the opposition had influence over voter boycott, what stopped the same opposition turning that defiance into solid votes. In short, current opposition parties in Gambia (in their majority) are busy more about themselves and with no agenda shared by Gambian voters. Unless they correct that error, hardly any chance in 40 years; not for them.

Karamba
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Sister Omega



United Kingdom
2085 Posts

Posted - 24 Nov 2007 :  17:01:14  Show Profile  Visit Sister Omega's Homepage Send Sister Omega a Private Message
What taxes do you pay in the Gambia when your residing in the UK, Karamba? As I am not privy to Zainab medical history as far as I'm aware that the medical Bills in the US would be cheaper than in UK considering the exchange rate. Also the child is still a Gambian under the Gambian constitution.So what's the big problem! Don't tell me....badmindness and envy!

Peace

Sister Omega

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Janko

Gambia
1267 Posts

Posted - 24 Nov 2007 :  19:07:07  Show Profile  Visit Janko's Homepage Send Janko a Private Message
“Not proud on oneself”, not considering/counting on, what one has and can, a sort of inferiority complex.

This issue is a valid ethical question if (as jambo mentioned) not a complication beyond the ability of local facilities. Then of course, that leads to the natural question of how to develop those facilities so that not only the ones with fat pockets would get treatment abroad whiles the ordinary Gambian with the same complication is left to the pity of inadequate local facilities.

The Gambian voter has forgone the devil s/he do not know. Gambia’s political situation is very difficult not just because of the language aspect of everyday politics but also because of the difficulty for the voter to understand and associate with the utopian political agendas presented all over the political spectrum. What are the chances for a voter that does not know his constitutional rights to choose a political party/leader that would bring about change or adhere to his/her burdens?

The Bush administration tried to control the Canadian boarder not just to prevent terrorism but Americans seeking both medical care and medicine there because it is cheaper. Michael Moore’s last documentary did compare the care and cost of medicine in the USA with Europe and found the European standard is not necessarily lower but much cheaper.


Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy

Edited by - Janko on 24 Nov 2007 19:09:14
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 24 Nov 2007 :  22:53:55  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
Many thanks to Karamba and Janko for your comments on party politics.

To summarised on few points:-

1)Many party leaders have failed when expectations were very high on them and still they don't resign to the fact that they can ever make it beyond 2011.

2) There is more rivalry, under-mining of efforts and lack of SOLIDARITY between the opposition parties than tactical mobilising their energies and resources against their main adversary (who is none but the incumbent H.E and A.P.R.C).

3) There are no prospects of winning come 2011 and beyond as you can see how POWERLESS THEY ARE ON RECENT DEVELOPMENTS TOWARDS LOCAL GOVERNMENT ELECTIONS 2008. Already H.E have gain more powers on councils & municipalities.

4) Finally; COWARDS DIE MANY TIMES BEFORE THEIR DEATH!

Edited by - kobo on 24 Nov 2007 23:01:37
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Janyanfara



Tanzania
1350 Posts

Posted - 25 Nov 2007 :  14:30:30  Show Profile Send Janyanfara a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Sister Omega

What taxes do you pay in the Gambia when your residing in the UK, Karamba? As I am not privy to Zainab medical history as far as I'm aware that the medical Bills in the US would be cheaper than in UK considering the exchange rate. Also the child is still a Gambian under the Gambian constitution.So what's the big problem! Don't tell me....badmindness and envy!

Peace

Sister Omega



My dear sister,

please with due respect shut up.

You make me sick when you talk like that.How many Gambian can do that?We want a leader who leads by example and not a lavest style lady who doesnot see her self as part of us. If Zainab so wants her childreen born in a foreign land, why would she grow them in the Gambia only to be produced outside? Secondly what a hypocrete she really is why would she urge Gambians to sent their childreen to the Zainab Jammeh ward at the RVTH childreen's ward(formally Lady Njemeh ward

Look I think your inteligence surpasses this kind of crazy thinking even if you like Jammeh so much and probably considering to privately send him emails to become his second lady.

Mark you He is very fit now with big chest!

Edited by - Janyanfara on 25 Nov 2007 14:36:39
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Karamba



United Kingdom
3820 Posts

Posted - 25 Nov 2007 :  17:06:33  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message
Dear Compatriots,

Have you all now realised how much infected is Sister Omega with this Jammeh die hard and bias. Here is someone seeking to deny a genuine tax payer basic right to question where our tax money is going. There are many Gambians with private capital generated from clean sweat. With Jammeh, it is our collective sweat he is feeding on. That is what makes it everybody's business to know all about Gambian President ( not Jammeh in body and muscles.) By fact of matters, it happens to be a certain Yahya Jammeh for now. Let him stop stealing and killing and that is when his name will stay out of public scrutiny. We all have our mouth where our tax money goes. That is the issue at hand.

Karamba

Edited by - Karamba on 25 Nov 2007 17:24:41
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Sister Omega



United Kingdom
2085 Posts

Posted - 25 Nov 2007 :  22:16:48  Show Profile  Visit Sister Omega's Homepage Send Sister Omega a Private Message
Janyanfara now you have released the discomfort from your anus maybe you should use the little brainpower you have and take a chill pill! Second Lady indeed what foolishness! I am happily married as the 1st Lady of my household and I am more than satisfied with my Gambian husband. Therefore for you to stoop so low try to score an own goal barking like a mad dog at the moon who can't change anything. You have no power over the young Jammeh's life so back off and take your own advice. Because we are all aware that none of you have the balls to say what you say under pseudyms on this forum to Jammeh or any high ranking Gambian officials face boys.........

Peace
Sister Omega
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Janko

Gambia
1267 Posts

Posted - 26 Nov 2007 :  12:39:41  Show Profile  Visit Janko's Homepage Send Janko a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Sister Omega

none of you have the balls to say .........



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Sibo



Denmark
231 Posts

Posted - 26 Nov 2007 :  13:31:40  Show Profile Send Sibo a Private Message
I am not I just do not understand why Jammeh should send his wife to deliver her baby in US. Zainab is no better than any other Gambian woman, why should she be any different frm the rest????? I´m pretty sure the money spent on her is from the Gambian gorvernment. I just do not think its fair, when that money could be spent on better things. SIS OMEGA, chill, I bet you wouldn´t think its fair for Zainab to deliver in the pleasent hospitals og US while you have to deliver in Gambia if you were living there, think about it
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