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kayjatta
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 Posted - 25 Oct 2007 : 08:11:07
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Culled from: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/10/24/wosama224.xml
Bin Laden calls for jihad on Darfur force
By Mike Pflanz in Khartoum
Osama bin Laden has issued a fresh call for a "holy war" against a new 26,000-strong peacekeeping force for Darfur, which will include British support staff.
In an audio recording issued by al-Qa'eda this week, bin Laden also said that Muslims in Sudan and its neighbours must target the Khartoum government for agreeing to the deployment.
"This is a brazen occupation, and only an infidel apostate seeks it or agrees to it," bin Laden said.
"It is the duty of the people of Islam in the Sudan and its environs, especially the Arabian peninsula, to perform jihad against the crusader invaders and wage armed rebellion to remove those who let them in."
Sudan was a refuge for bin Laden between 1991 and 1996 but he has since distanced himself from the regime he accuses of failing to adhere strictly to Islam.
Ayman al-Zawhiri, bin Laden's deputy, made a similar call for jihad in Darfur in a video message that was broadcast on Sept 20.
Diplomatic sources in Khartoum said there were unlikely to be home-grown attacks by Sudanese fundamentalists against the joint United Nations and African Union mission, which is due to be operational by Jan 1.
Britain is sending about 100 support staff. A British general will also be seconded to the operation.
"It makes little sense. Don't forget lots of the soldiers are going to be Muslims too," said one European diplomat.
Egypt, Senegal, Mali and Burkina Faso, which each have large Islamic populations, have all signed up to send troops or staff to the new mission.
But there have been reports that foreign terror cells were looking to establish training camps amid the chaos of Darfur, which has an entirely Muslim population.
Western intelligence agencies are paying ever closer attention to the wider region of east Africa.
They are anxious to prevent extremist elements from flourishing in lawless countries like Somalia and exporting terror to their neighbours and beyond the continent.
More than 300,000 people have died in the Darfur region since the Sudanese government moved to crush a rebellion in its western province, which started in February 2003.
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turk
USA
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Posted - 25 Oct 2007 : 08:45:28
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Mr. Yankee
Why don't you move this post to world politics? This is a political post. You just prove that you are indeed provocator.
Admin
Please this topic to world politics, the content is post more related to world affairs rather than spirituality or religion. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 25 Oct 2007 09:23:46 |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 25 Oct 2007 : 10:08:27
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turk,don't worry about where he put his postings .he is seeking attention.so just ignore him.mr ben laden is not an ambassador of islam or muslims .he is a private man who was made by the american cia .the wider muslims never heard of his name ,but when the americans were fighting a procy war with the russians they created a man like mr ben laden who the bush family have more ties with than many muslims ever will .so let him put ben laden or bin linen any where he wishes.
just last month people where remembering che was killed by a cia agent supervised by oliver north .why did they supervise the killing of che ? or the old age stragey of not getting your hands dirty .how many prominent individuals where killed or asasinated with the cia supervision ,how democrcatic is that ? let kay forward his articles and let momodou leave them where ever he puts them. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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mbay
Germany
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Posted - 25 Oct 2007 : 15:24:01
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The toxin comes again!
Now you all who may took us unseriously toward this guy can now see how he starts another rootless topic, which means we are all a members of Bin laden.
So my answer to it is , Who poured oil in fire most knows it will not remains on that stage.
Be ready for another reaction!
Turk:
dont mind this crooked .religion for him is only Islam (The terrorist)
have he ever rise an articles of another religions negatively? No!
so no need to chick in, he is nothing but a insidiously poison of evils.
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admin
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Posted - 26 Oct 2007 : 00:07:11
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Cool down guys! The guiding line here at Bantaba is: Enlightenment, Diversity, Tolerance and Sharing. Let’s keep that spirit and stop the cyber bullying. We have to agree to diasgree without resorting to name calling just because of difference of opinion. |
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kayjatta
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Posted - 26 Oct 2007 : 06:34:17
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Admin:
Thanks for your advice to exercise restraint, and for moving the topic to world politics.
The reason I put the topic in the religious section is the fact that this issue is more of a religious question than it is politics. This is evident in the numerous times the article made reference to words like: holy war, infidel,jihad, Islam, crusader, muslims, terror, etc.I am absolutely convinced that none of those conceptions are based on organized and recognized political process. Rather, they are a twisted projection of religion for the purpose of conquest.
But, I whole heartedly respect your decision for the fact that it might help diffuse tension over this topic and others.
Thanks so much! |
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mbay
Germany
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Posted - 26 Oct 2007 : 08:52:48
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Being cussed is not my way ,its just reaction on reaction.'cause i was overstrained about all this unjustifiable... ,which some time comes too noisy.
But I took part of your tuition with respect and i hope we all will not only want to be buoyantly but most be! with real respect for one another as man with a integrated personality in every nook and corner .
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turk
USA
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Posted - 26 Oct 2007 : 12:39:21
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There are words like audio, recording, deployment, broadcast: It could have been science and technology section. Or. Sudan, Darfur, United Nations, Africa, African, British, Egypt, Senegal, Mali, Burkina Faso, populations, countries, somalia. So it could have been under geography section.
Further the topic you choose;Terror on Darfur. It is military and political statement. Worse, you said, quote:
words like: holy war, infidel,jihad, Islam, crusader, muslims, terror, etc.
So explain why terror is associated to Islam? You are associating terror with religion? So aren't you PROVOCATOR? Did not you get it that you are offending muslims here. Do you even get the point? |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 26 Oct 2007 14:51:03 |
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Santanfara
3460 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2007 : 18:32:51
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www.cageprisoners.com
this is also another form of terror in cuba. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
www.suntoumana.blogspot.com |
Edited by - Santanfara on 26 Oct 2007 18:33:20 |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2007 : 23:32:39
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| http://www.ericmargolis.com/archives/2004/08/no_time_for_a_c.php |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2007 : 23:42:43
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| http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A21143-2004Dec22.html |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Oct 2007 : 10:04:11
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Of course terror is associated to islam. NOT TO ALL MUSLIMS!
Think of all the violence around the world on innocent victims. Bombers in London, 9/11 etc etc etc...all done in the name of Islam.
Do you deny these events?!
The people that commited these acts were misled and misguided, but they WERE Muslim.
MOST Gambians are very moderate Muslims, and likewise most people in UK are moderate and not racist or anti muslim.
BUT there are a few people on this site whose extreme views I find VERY disturbing.
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MeMe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Oct 2007 : 11:09:29
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Indeed, Bev! I would say the same to you as I did to Anna - contact the moderator as the more of us who let it be known that we're not about to sit back and watch cyber bullying and name calling the better!
The trio of Mbay, Turk and Santanfara (I am so disappointed to have to put your name here - what has happened to you?)along with their some-time buddy, Kobo need to be tempered as they are now in the process of ruining what was once an interesting and informative discussion place. |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 27 Oct 2007 : 11:32:36
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i feel disappointed in you meme as well.it is a two way trafic.we see from a different angle.if you cannot see bluntly the media hype about islam ,then i cannot help you.
as for bev,i will not even bother to respond to your post.when the governments of the west are taking actions against defenseless people ,what do you call that ? when lebanon was been bombed to stone age what comments did you make about that? if you understand the teachings of islam and then you critise constructively i will not answer to such comments.we cannot have simlar views and believes. but if you unjustifiably attack my faith without any constructiveness then ,i will respond.
what would you ladies call the actions of states droping tones of bombs of innocent civilians ,refer to as collateral damage ?what would you call that ? christian terror or secular terror ?
if some muslims did terrible things ,they are criminals who if found guilty in a court of law ,should be punish .but why associate their actions with their faith? do we associate the actions of every mass murderer to their religion?.British harold shipman did kill over one hunded old people ,what makes him do that ? why sensationalise islam with the actions of nugleheads.if any one respect my faith and with knowledge you critise it or disaggree with it ,that is fine.i am not here to convince any one about my faith period.we are all adults.
as for cyber bullyiing ,i don't who is doing that any way.
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Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
www.suntoumana.blogspot.com |
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Santanfara
3460 Posts |
Posted - 27 Oct 2007 : 11:42:09
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did the sudanise people invited ben ladne to speak for them ? ben laden is an individual who is term as a criminal ,why should his comments about sudan make any sense ? sudan is a sovereign state that is engolf in internal unrest.there are rebel groups and state army and some other interest groups. why is ben laden brough into the issue ? or i know .the darfure conflict is now made out to associate with another ben laden adventure. but in sudan ,darfur is a muslim region that is seeking sepration from main land sudan.attrocities have been commited there.those found guilty of involvement should be put before a court of law.
but bringing in ben laden doesn't make sense.
the other issue is the darfur OIL .who gains when sudan is split up ? |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
www.suntoumana.blogspot.com |
Edited by - Santanfara on 27 Oct 2007 11:43:55 |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Oct 2007 : 12:30:52
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I am a pacifist by nature and philosophy. I dont support ANY war, murder or act of violence.
I dont like extremists of any colour, religion or view point. I prefer a moderate life. That is why Gambian culture and its tolerance appeals to me. I feel very at home there.
Santanfara you seem to have changed...... |
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