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Santanfara



3460 Posts

Posted - 15 Aug 2007 :  12:07:57  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
http://www.thegambiaecho.com/Homepage/tabid/36/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/700/Default.aspx

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

www.suntoumana.blogspot.com

Alhassan

Sweden
813 Posts

Posted - 15 Aug 2007 :  14:09:21  Show Profile Send Alhassan a Private Message
Santanfara,
Very funny and intresting artickle. I do not think Edward said what was written in the ingress. Sometimes I cannot belive the guys who write such nonsense. I am realy sick about all this paper tigers looking for asylum in the US and Europe and writting all these nonsens without prof. I cannot understand if these guys are so intrested and have evedince why not go to an international court? We have Gambians working in these courts. Contact them for the benifit of the doubt. Otherwise they just wast time with all these lies.
In the end only the liars will belive them.
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Santanfara



3460 Posts

Posted - 15 Aug 2007 :  14:22:14  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
alhasan ,since you take all the papers as liers ,then what happen to uncle fafa nyang ? i am only talking about one person whose wife was left without a husband unjustifiably .i lived with basiru barrow's brother in the same house for one year ,and he was so traumatise that he never talk about his killed brother .up to the point he refuse to venture into the gambia for 8 years. yet you sit in sweden and count every one as liers ,may be you are the BIGGER LIER SINCE YOU DENY THE TRUTH .I HAVE NO RESPECT FOR A NARROW MINDED INDIVIDUAL UNCLE ALHASAN .

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

www.suntoumana.blogspot.com
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Alhassan

Sweden
813 Posts

Posted - 15 Aug 2007 :  15:07:58  Show Profile Send Alhassan a Private Message
Santanfara,
It is true I cannot prof anything that is why I cannot make such accusations. I just doubt why not take steps if they have profs?
I must have the truth proven otherwise I cannot belive it. Those who have profs must not hide in the US and Europe and feed the bloggers with wrong information. If steps are not taken then there is no truth. You can have respect for those looking for cheep popularity. I am not one of them. I look for the truth if I want justice not just assumptions. All these papers heve no good points in ling. In the end only narrow minded indiviauals will belive them.
If you lived with a person whoes brother was killed why did he not appeal to the law. If Charles Tailor can be put in court then the person you accuse can be put in court too. He is a human being like you and me. There are international laws to follow. Without doing that I just cant take what ever these newspapers print. Remember paper dosen't refuse ink.
I am realy dissappointed by you . I taught you first liste, then look for real profs before speaking, but this is not the case. I can never belive in these socalled newspapers after what happened withn the freedomnewspaper.
If these are the reasons for these forums , then I am sorry there is not going to be any frutfull pratical measuse to taken.

Edited by - Alhassan on 15 Aug 2007 15:16:26
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Santanfara



3460 Posts

Posted - 15 Aug 2007 :  16:45:39  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
who put charles taylor in court ? i am deedly surprise by your stance .it seems you may serve jilanka with your words. the international courts is not run like a bantaba .may be you don't understand how the courts are run .many gambians like other african's whose families surfer during dictatorships wait for the right channel before doing any thing. remember yahya is a sitting president with the state apparatus at his disposal ,he can frame any body to his advantage. you still assuming that yahya is tranparent is completely a falacy .the man who cannot even let the killers of our students be brought to justice will allow international courts to interfare in his contry ,be real brother man.
how often do you visit the gambia to asume that every body is talking bull**** ? there were people who could once lay down their life for yahya because they assume like you are doing now ,but today they realise they were wrong .you are wrong patriotic alhasan ,if i may discribe you that way ,since every jammeh supporter consider him or her self that way .it takes taylor the blood of thausands of babies ,old men and women ,young men and women and the complete breakdown of the country before the international courts impose there will on him .countries have there soveriegn rights that no other country should violate ,the inhabitants of a particular country have the rights first to the change the unholy circumstance before any body or institution get involve .got it .but if people like you are enjoying where ever you are and happy with the dismissal of jawara for whatever reason ,and you are satisfied with man who did that ,yet you cannot see his own peculiar crimes then keep your mouth shut when fire start rageing in your door steps .if those who could change things are oblivious of all crimes ,then they loose the right to protest .

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

www.suntoumana.blogspot.com
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Karamba



United Kingdom
3820 Posts

Posted - 15 Aug 2007 :  19:12:26  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message
Alhassan,

Are you not aware that Yahya Jammeh has terminated the legal order in Gambia? If it was that easy, why do you think the families of all the slain are still sitting, helpless and hopeless.

You tend to portray a deceptive line. Are you pretending or not. Some of your statements have the potential to convey dangerous messages and you better be aware of how you put your defence forward. There is NO legal environment in Gambia where the law is for all. Jammeh is the THE LAW. That is why even after killing over 44 Ghanians and other nationals, Jammeh is sitting down on all legal avenues for a lead to track the culprits. If you don't know this, better be informed by now. It is dangerous for intelligent people to defy the demands of fairness and truth. From your postings, noboddy should mistake you for an under-mind. You are both experienced and intelligent by all true assessment.

Karamba
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Alhassan

Sweden
813 Posts

Posted - 15 Aug 2007 :  20:48:16  Show Profile Send Alhassan a Private Message
Santanfara and Karamba,
I think it is better for me to withdraw from this topic. I do not want missunderstanding at all.
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Karamba



United Kingdom
3820 Posts

Posted - 15 Aug 2007 :  21:01:24  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message
Alhassan,

Sorry if there was anything so badly put to prompt your untimely resignation from the topic.

Karamba
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LEMON TIME



Afghanistan
1295 Posts

Posted - 21 Aug 2007 :  05:00:15  Show Profile Send LEMON TIME a Private Message
ITS ALHASSAN JAMMEH AGAIN

There is no god but Allah
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Ebra



Gambia
268 Posts

Posted - 21 Aug 2007 :  06:30:37  Show Profile Send Ebra a Private Message
Folks can we applaud Sheikh Bakauso Fofana for his brave lectures in Gambia. Knowledge and obidience 2 my favorite part.

iladinolong.com

Edited by - Ebra on 21 Aug 2007 06:32:50
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Sibo



Denmark
231 Posts

Posted - 21 Aug 2007 :  12:17:54  Show Profile Send Sibo a Private Message
Karamba
You are absolutely right, Jammeh is THE LAW. He single handedly runs the country

To alhassan
If you and others do not believe the gambians narrating these terrible stories, if everybody keeps on dismissing them how in the world are we gonna make the internationals courts believe them???
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Alhassan

Sweden
813 Posts

Posted - 21 Aug 2007 :  13:04:42  Show Profile Send Alhassan a Private Message
Sibo,
I belive that those who are reporting and have evidence should go ahead and contact the international courts. It is better than here on bantaba. I doubt if any of the powerful international leaders read this blogg. It looks more serious if the newspapers at home report these things instead of bloggs. Has Foroya reported the same as the Ghanian or this bantaba? There is always something hidden behind and a lot of untruth. This we have seen and red about other peoples bloggs. Sensible and reasonable judges do not go ahead with rumors or here say. That is all this bantaba is about. It is a blogg so one can write whatever you want. It has been here before and still now. If the Ghanians have evidence let them bring them forward. Otherwise there bloggs are very unpredictable of the truth.
Even Gambians are big liars if they want to put you in trouble. Most of the guys here on bantaba are Jammeh oppositions and would accept any lies about him. We must be reasonable. If we call ourselves muslims and christians then we must speak the truth and bring out evidence in whatever dispute.
I am sorry Sibo. I am a different Gambian than most of you here. I cannot accept rumors or heresay or artickles from these bloggs.
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Sibo



Denmark
231 Posts

Posted - 21 Aug 2007 :  13:22:54  Show Profile Send Sibo a Private Message
Why do you think the newspapers in gambia do not publish these stories????
They fear for their lives and the lives of their love ones. Look at what is happening to the journalist that are doing their jobs, Fatou Jaw Manneh for instance.

You have the right to you opinion and the right to express it, but you have no right to call anyone on the bantaba or anywhere else a liar. Just because you disagree with these stories does not mean that they are not true. I think you all of us an appology.
Just beacuse you are por Jammeh does not make these stories a lia. How can so many people be so wrong about the same person. Lets stop being in denial and face reality, Jammeh is commiting crimes, a lots and lots of them
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Alhassan

Sweden
813 Posts

Posted - 21 Aug 2007 :  15:54:36  Show Profile Send Alhassan a Private Message
Sibo,
I am not a pro Jammeh. I want the truth.
Those who have problems with Jammeh must solve it with him. I am not a Gambian voter and do not live in the Gambia. I have red a lot of lies that is why I say so . Otherwise I shall never. Foroya is in the Gambia and we read it every week. I have a personal copy every week from Sam Sarr. I am an inactive PDOIS member, but wants facts not rumors or heresay. Foroya is printing all the experiences at home. Do you mean to tell me that they are not printing news? The Point newspaper is too existing there without problems. When it comes to Jaw Manneh, I don't know what is the truth. I cannot just jump and support without knowing what or where the crime was commited. You know her and can say things about her. I have red a lot of dfisinformation at these Gambian onlinenewspapers and bloggs.
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Sibo



Denmark
231 Posts

Posted - 21 Aug 2007 :  16:05:24  Show Profile Send Sibo a Private Message
Alhassan
You keep on saying that you do not know what really is going on in thses cases, then just maybe you should stop commenting on them and stop calling people who know something about them liars.
honestly, what do you think is going to happen to the point or foroyaa when they publish an article disposing Jammeh and his crew like that???
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Karamba



United Kingdom
3820 Posts

Posted - 21 Aug 2007 :  17:00:15  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message

Alhassan,

My only worry is that you have not shown the basis of your authority to declare everyone liar because they are unable to produce the body of truth that is there even if not known by the multitude. If you are good enough to confirm people as liars, we can safely rely on you to tell us the truth then. Let us hear your story of the truth. No offence. We need good men like you getting to bottom of THE truth about many issues. From now on we continue to bank on your indulgence in the process of rooting the truth. Many thanks for your brave stance.

Karamba
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